Government Shutdown Averted: Trump signs spending bill and declares national emergency

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Kenny West said:
I cant believe Im saying this but I'm with Nap on this.

My main issue with the anti immigrant movement is that most of the arguments are steeped in racism. But in a practical sense the fight for immigration effects immigrants/illegals themselves and offers little to the american voter. Trump plays off that and at this point idk why the democrats would make concessions over it.

Is news helpinf some people in a immigration program gonna excite the average voter and make them feel that Dems won for them in negotiations? fukk no. they cant capitalize on the votes of the immigrants that need this and their voting eligible descendants dont identify themselves with immigrants either.

Why not use the leverage to clean up Flint MI's water?

Why cant they negotiate some aid for puerto rico?

Or Climate change measures?

Or a deal that protects the mueller investigation?

Or better yet measures to fight against election fraud/the dirty tactics from fl and GA midterms. Use his unethical party against him and change the narrative suitable to the impeachment.

Right now theyre falling right in line with the right's "Democrats are anti american they care more about xyz than the average american" narrative and feeding the populism beast for no reason.
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Because they want illegal immigrants coming into the country. If they didn't, all they'd have to say is, illegal immigration is wrong, and we agree with Republicans, we just hate the wall idea and think they are better, more efficient ways of doing it. Let's discuss more efficient measures, so we can get it done, move on, and focus on American problems. But that's not the narrative. The narrative is "how dare you be against immigrants? women and children!!!!! coming for a better life!!!! racist this, racist that, white supremacy that". They want illegal immigrants pouring in. They're hoping for it to increase their voter base in the coming years. The fact that they're thinking is so black and white and so infantile is concerning. The fact they can't compartmentalize is sad. Yes, we're democrats. Yes, we want to help people. Yes, kids shouldn't be locked in cages. Yes, people deserve a chance to immigrate to America. But, 11 million to 22 million people shouldn't be allowed to run through our borders unchecked.

People are so brainwashed you can't even be against illegal immigration without being accused of voting for Trump. Obama fukking deported more illegals than anyone in US history. So how much sense does their arguments even make? This shyt has nothing to do with Trump. I will gladly watch as Mueller ruins his life and puts his dumb ass in jail but, whoever is the next President, and the next President after that, and the next President after that, I'm going to hope they do something about illegal immigration. I'm 98% with Democrats and they are usually in the right but, as far as the current guard is concerned (because again, Obama and Clinton's records on immigration speak loudly) they are wrong on illegal immigration.
 
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Json said:
The job of Congress is to negotiate. The shutdown is Trump breaking something.

If you came into a mechanic for a routine oil change and he breaks your head gasket. You aren’t going to negotiate how much to fix the head gasket.
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And we don't owe the mechanic just for being a mechanic, either. He better fix that shyt that at his own(or the company's) expense!
 
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Json said:
The job of Congress is to negotiate. The shutdown is Trump breaking something.

If you came into a mechanic for a routine oil change and he breaks your head gasket. You aren’t going to negotiate how much to fix the head gasket.
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You're quoting someone that's on the spectrum nothing you say is going to matter to him
 
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KingJudah2 said:
Yuh all chupid

Trump caves and there will be no immigration bill because the house is democrip and will never draft any bill with what he wants
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This isn't a corporation, cheeto is not CEO, what the president wants is not how the government works...The right thing to do here is open the government and negotiate, instead the President has chosen to use peoples paychecks as a bargaining chip and Rethugs have cosigned him with their inaction...

The blame here is entirely on Mitch the anemic ninja turtle and the Rethugs for not holding a vote to override Cheetos shutdown...

All it takes is 2/3 and this shyt is over regardless of what cheeto wants...

Apparently everyone on the right fears skeletors bride aka Anne Coulter...
 
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MaliktheRapper said:
Because they want illegal immigrants coming into the country. If they didn't, all they'd have to say is, illegal immigration is wrong, and we agree with Republicans, we just hate the wall idea and think they are better, more efficient ways of doing it. Let's discuss more efficient measures, so we can get it done, move on, and focus on American problems. But that's not the narrative. The narrative is "how dare you be against immigrants? women and children!!!!! coming for a better life!!!! racist this, racist that, white supremacy that". They want illegal immigrants pouring in. They're hoping for it to increase their voter base in the coming years. The fact that they're thinking is so black and white and so infantile is concerning. The fact they can't compartmentalize is sad. Yes, we're democrats. Yes, we want to help people. Yes, kids shouldn't be locked in cages. Yes, people deserve a chance to immigrate to America. But, 11 million to 22 million people shouldn't be allowed to run through our borders unchecked.

People are so brainwashed you can't even be against illegal immigration without being accused of voting for Trump. Obama fukking deported more illegals than anyone in US history. So how much sense does their arguments even make? This shyt has nothing to do with Trump. I will gladly watch as Mueller ruins his life and puts his dumb ass in jail but, whoever is the next President, and the next President after that, and the next President after that, I'm going to hope they do something about illegal immigration. I'm 98% with Democrats and they are usually in the right but, as far as the current guard is concerned (because again, Obama and Clinton's records on immigration speak loudly) they are wrong on illegal immigration.
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Agent Alert.:mjpls:

Illegal immigration is at its lowest in years and most come on overstayed visas on planes.

Also illegal immigration has little to no effect on the economy at large. Not to mention immigration HAS to happen because Americans aren't having babies anymore because they want to graduate into the middle class which is almost impossible if you have children before a certain age.

So like Europe the population can only be replaced one way and that's immigration as to why all anti-immigration is just grand standing and the elite know this better than anyone.


I have facts and statistics to back that up if you keep talking reckless too
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