G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman
Logic Is Absent Wherever Hate Is Present
This is the story of the Oakland A's.
Grizzlies hire Dave Joerger as Head Coach
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But signing does type of players around Marc Gasol and Mike Conley is not going to push you over the top. If one of your key players get hurt, then your team is fukked. OKC tried to do the same thing with trading James Harden. When Russell Westbrook got hurt, they was fukked. Instead of having James Harden to come in and fill the void of Russell Westbrook production. A OKC team with just Durant and Harden would have beating the Grizzlies.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
I would love to see Hollinger run across a coach like Phil Jackson and suggest he coach his team based on synergyPhil would chew that nerd the fukk out and make him go back to ESPN with that shyt. Nobody has credited their success of a championship to that. They can try that moneyball shyt all they want while the Yankess(Heat) keep on winning chips.
Memphis tryna find ways to win without spending money. This game is simple, the most talent wins. It's always been this way and always will be. Spend the money on the best players instead of tryna pull the Billy Beane cheap roster overachieving by making the playoffs type of shyt.
The irony is that Phil has coached some of the highest synergy graders in the history of the sport. Given that the triangle was based on reads, motion, offensive awareness, and whether you took a smart shot or not, Phil and Tex Winter would be shining examples. Like I said, you don't need advanced numbers to tell you LeBron is the best player in the league, whereas in baseball there have been debates over what formula judges a player better.
False to the bolded. If you watched Moneyball or read the book, the concept of Moneyball DOES lead to a title. Moneyball + money = ring. That's part of why Boston and the Yankees wound up winning layer. They adopted the concepts and applied it towards finding it in potential stars (they inevitably kept those guys). It led to the intangibles that were undervalued before become valued appropriately. It doesn't work as well in the NBA because signing a player to an undervalued contract is very very rare. Billy Beane HAD to do that because the players he did have that did produce kept leaving because he didn't have money.
It's hard for top talent in the NBA to suck at advanced metrics, which is why it's pointless on that front. They only help for finding gems late or getting a free agent that could impact you a bit better.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
OKC didn't trade James Harden on account of advanced metrics. Advanced metrics would have told you to keep Harden over 3 generally inefficient players (Martin used to be a freak when it came to numbers because he got to the line at a ridiculous rate, something he doesn't do anymore)
And losing Westbrook would have still fukked them even if they did have Harden, because losing a high PER player sucks no matter how you slice it. It's not as if they traded Harden for "more bang for your buck" players. 2 of those players were rookies, another one being the 12th pick in this draft that will be in D-League all year. The OKC deal was mostly about finances.
Key players are key players for a reason. Key players won't perform well in spite of advanced metrics; they will merely confirm what the stats try to tell you (for the most part. Stats aren't fool proof and are devoid of context)
They traded Harden so they could keep their big man in Serge Ibaka and have money to sign other role players. If they kept Harden, then they wouldn't been able to keep Serge Ibaka and have money left over sign other role players. They would have been thinner in highly productive role players if they had kept Harden.
Lakerman0834
Veteran
wats dudes PER?
So they should instead bury their better, younger players on the bench?
What the fukk are you proposing?
So they should instead bury their better, younger players on the bench?
What the fukk are you proposing?
BrothaZay?
holidayinn21
:SmugMoneyMike:
dude is gonna be a Hollinger puppet that will coach his team based on some basketball version of sabermetrics.
he's one of the top assistants and top HC candidates.
this is what happens when people don't know what they're talking about.
G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman
Logic Is Absent Wherever Hate Is Present
Top assistants my ass. No other team was going to hire him.
he's one of the top assistants and top HC candidates.
this is what happens when people don't know what they're talking about.
Lakerman0834
Veteran
not that far probably good regular season team but will never make it finals
The assistant coach for our team.
Hollins stated that ol boy wasn't a defensive coach until he made him a defensive coach
I'm not sure how this will work and IMO the player moves will be more important than this but it could go either way. I'm just glad we didn't get George Karl or Alvin Gentry
From weekday I've heard the last few weeks, they had no plans on going outside the organization anyway. Grizz are penny pinching right now.
Goat poster
KANG LIFE
One good thing about this whole new analytical approach that many teams are doing is that it's stopping players like MONTA ELLIS and BRANDON JENNINGS from getting max contracts.
Monta shoulda took that 12 mil a year from the Bucks, he ain't getting nowhere near that in free agency.
Maybe the NBA will smarten up when they look at the numbers/productivity of these horrible shot selection, no defense having dudes.y
Monta shoulda took that 12 mil a year from the Bucks, he ain't getting nowhere near that in free agency.
Maybe the NBA will smarten up when they look at the numbers/productivity of these horrible shot selection, no defense having dudes.y
Nah, there's a thing called restricted free agency for 2nd contracts and teams have the right to match any offer.
Memphis is in great position after the Gay trade. They are well under the luxury tax, they can re-sign Allen and get a shooter and a backup Center with the mid level exception. Randolph has a couple seasons on his contract left and they will be in position to re-sign Gasol and Conley as they enter their primes.
