Growing Everything But The Payroll: The Official 2025 New York Yankees Season Thread

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devin williams is psychologically cooked

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I’ve been saying it since he left that Chapman wasn’t the problem. It was clearly the Yankees. You could see all through 2021 and 2022 that his mechanics were off and they made no effort to get him right. Just demoted him for a guy with a career ERA in the mid 5’s from the pirates and told everyone he was the source of the problem. Meanwhile he’s been his usual self since the minute he left but this team wouldn’t figure out why the guy suddenly lost 5-7mph on his fastball.
 

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I’ve been saying it since he left that Chapman wasn’t the problem. It was clearly the Yankees. You could see all through 2021 and 2022 that his mechanics were off and they made no effort to get him right. Just demoted him for a guy with a career ERA in the mid 5’s from the pirates and told everyone he was the source of the problem. Meanwhile he’s been his usual self since the minute he left but this team wouldn’t figure out why the guy suddenly lost 5-7mph on his fastball.
Can you think of the last starting pitcher the Yankees acquired who was notably better after joining the Yankees?

Because I’m struggling to think of anyone.

Guys like Gerrit Cole and CC Sabathia were outright better before being Yankees. Or at best, AS GOOD.

But hell, I even remember when they got Javier Vazquez from Montreal and I thought…WTF.
 

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Can you think of the last starting pitcher the Yankees acquired who was notably better after joining the Yankees?

Because I’m struggling to think of anyone.

Guys like Gerrit Cole and CC Sabathia were outright better before being Yankees. Or at best, AS GOOD.

But hell, I even remember when they got Javier Vazquez from Montreal and I thought…WTF.
Not since stick and Watson. A few years ago a big reason they dumped Monty was because they wanted more sinker and slider pitchers even though they had a bunch of them already. Most things they do with the pitching seems to be wrong.
 

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Not since stick and Watson. A few years ago a big reason they dumped Monty was because they wanted more sinker and slider pitchers even though they had a bunch of them already. Most things they do with the pitching seems to be wrong.

All this stock being put into Cashman's analytics and he's numbers are all fukked up
 

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Not since stick and Watson. A few years ago a big reason they dumped Monty was because they wanted more sinker and slider pitchers even though they had a bunch of them already. Most things they do with the pitching seems to be wrong.

In the words of sonny gray

“They kept forcing me to throw this shytty slider”
:mjlol:
 

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In the words of sonny gray

“They kept forcing me to throw this shytty slider”
:mjlol:
He barely threw his slider more than in Oakland. Gray’s issue was that he just couldn’t pitch at home. The man had a 3.17 ERA on the road and a 6.98 at home. In 59 innings at home that year he had 35 walks to 45 strikeouts while he had 78 strikeouts to 22 walks in 71 innings on the road.
 

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Devin Williams will be back on an NL central team next year.

Pete Alonso altered that man’s life last October.
 
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