Gruden Caping Extra Hard for Cousins ("It was windy")

[Ronnie Lott]

bomani already exposed the caping for Cousins and hate for RG3. He played that shyt perfect by insisting that Cousins was ass and suggesting Colt McCoy should start. But people ignore all that and still kept bringing up RG3. They said dude was bringing race into it when he clearly had(repeatedly) said McCoy

Yup. Bomani broke that shyt down surgically last week on his podcast

 

[Paisley Darts]

i love the he cant read defenses talking point...how come ive never heard that this sorry motherfukker kirk cousins with an entire career of throwing more picks than tds cant read a defense...how the fukk else can it be explained other than he didnt read that the corner was in a better position than his wr and ur goofy ass is still going to throw it...injuries have hurt rg3s progress, but with a 40td to 23 picks over his career, and has actually won ball games, how in the fukk with a straight face can u claim cac cousins is actually better or has more potential than rg3? seriously, what in the hell has cac cousins did in this league, EVER?

So you think you have a point by bringing up events that took place in 2012? Obviously that's what you are alluding to. Saying "Kirk never did anything" (which is true btw) and hanging your hat on something RG3 did THREE years ago in an entirely different system. NEWS FLASH, RG isn't a running QB anymore. RG's good knee and the read option isn't walking through that door. How about we look at his stats since he started being a "pocket QB." ..20TDs 18INTS. Moving on...

And don't confuse "can't read defenses" and forcing the ball/being a gunslinger. The former describes RG3, the latter describes Cousins. Kirk takes way more risk and throws the ball down field more than RG3...while being overly aggressive. This why I said he needs to be on the bench too...right beside RG3. But he is still a better QB than RG3.

 

[mrken12]

I agree with your analysis. You just forgot to mention that RG3 also takes an endless amount of sacks, doesn't go through progressions and can't read defenses.

Kirk is a turnover machine BUT he is the better QB...while being weak himself.

Cousins is not better at all period. And a guy who throws INTs on the regular can't be any better at reading defenses. Cousins easily is the worst QB on the roster.

 

[Paisley Darts]

No you also said kirk is best on the roster. Umm I flew up there for 4 days of training camp, been a die hard fan & regular season ticket holder in the past & I'm very dialed in into the team so I keep close tabs on whats going on & logical people can see what gruden is doing.

Better yet go watch every preseason game & tell me kirk is better than colt. That BS rebuttal that you & so many people like you keep giving that "kirk is the best on the roster, he gives us the best chance to win" statement is gone stale. Maybe you should open your eyes to whats really happening & stop hedging your bets. No shade towards you but my brotha kirk CANT give us the best chance to win with multiple ints everygame. The team cant overcome that.

You're telling me you dont have a problem with the way week after week gruden throws other players under the bus to absolve kirk??? You dont think other players hear that??? That type of shyt doesnt go over well when you're loosing.

I did not say "Kirk was the best on the roster." I don't know who you are quoting but it wasn't VASTORY. I said Kirk gave us the best chance at winning. And that was obviously referring to him and RG3 being that 1-All of my posts in here was Colt vs RG3 and 2-I said repeatedly that Colt needs his chance now. So basically we are in agreement. Can we move on?

 

[The D-List Vet]

No you also said kirk is best on the roster. Umm I flew up there for 4 days of training camp, been a die hard fan & regular season ticket holder in the past & I'm very dialed in into the team so I keep close tabs on whats going on & logical people can see what gruden is doing.

Better yet go watch every preseason game & tell me kirk is better than colt. That BS rebuttal that you & so many people like you keep giving that "kirk is the best on the roster, he gives us the best chance to win" statement is gone stale. Maybe you should open your eyes to whats really happening & stop hedging your bets. No shade towards you but my brotha kirk CANT give us the best chance to win with multiple ints everygame. The team cant overcome that.

You're telling me you dont have a problem with the way week after week gruden throws other players under the bus to absolve kirk??? You dont think other players hear that??? That type of shyt doesnt go over well when you're loosing.

real question is why did he pick Kirk over Colt

 

[Paisley Darts]

Cousins is not better at all period. And a guy who throws INTs on the regular can't be any better at reading defenses. Cousins easily is the worst QB on the roster.

So high INTs automatically means you can't read defenses? Theres no grey area huh? No account for forcing the ball, over throwing people, etc? SMH I'm not saying that Kirk is great at it, but he can damn sure read defenses better than RG3. He is just too much on that gunslinger shyt. And that is why I'm saying he needs to be benched TOO.

Looking clueless when you drop back, not being able to notice when/where blitzes are coming from and getting sacked repeatedly = not being able to read defenses. And this describes RG3, not Kirk Cousins.

 

[Tha Gawd Amen]

Is he really caping for Cousins, or his brothers decision to ride with Cousins

 

[The D-List Vet]

So high INTs automatically means you can't read defenses? Theres no grey area huh? No account for forcing the ball, over throwing people, etc? SMH I'm not saying that Kirk is great at it, but he can damn sure read defenses better than RG3. He is just too much on that gunslinger shyt. And that is why I'm saying he needs to be benched TOO.

Looking clueless when you drop back, not being able to notice when/where blitzes are coming from and getting sacked repeatedly = not being able to read defenses. And this describes RG3, not Kirk Cousins.

while you're stay sayin RG3 over throws his WR.... Kirk stay under throwing them ... i rather have a qb that will over throw my wr then one that under throws them.... Kirk cost that team about 2-3 TD when he went against the giants.... and if you watch the games the O-line does not try that hard to block for RG3 while they try their hardest to block for Kirk

 

[Paisley Darts]

while you're stay sayin RG3 over throws his WR.... Kirk stay under throwing them ... i rather have a qb that will over throw my wr then one that under throws them.... Kirk cost that team about 2-3 TD when he went against the giants.... and if you watch the games the O-line does not try that hard to block for RG3 while they try their hardest to block for Kirk

You read that wrong. I was basically pointing out there is a grey area by saying that over throwing WRs and forcing the ball does exist. Which is what Kirk Cousins does a lot..which contribues heavily to his INTs. So you can't see a lot of INTs and automatically say he can't read defenses. Compared to most QBs in the NFL..I'd say Kirk probably can't read defenses that well. BUT compared to RG3, Kirk can read defenses. Again, I don't see Cousins dropping back looking completely clueless like RG3...staring down WRs, holding on to the ball too long and getting sacked repeatedly.

 

[mrken12]

No one is acting like RG3 deserves to be out there...just tired of seeing his coach and the media protect Kirk after tossing him under the bus. And how exactly does Cousins give them a better chance to win when he's done everything BUT win games? It's a lazy bs talking point

I say he deserves to be out there. I'll take the person who has had past success and more potential over some 4th round scrub who has only won 3 games as a starter and is a turnover machine.

 

[The D-List Vet]

I say he deserves to be out there. I'll take the person who has had past success and more potential over some 4th round scrub who has only won 3 games as a starter and is a turnover machine.

my question is why did Jay pick Kirk over Colt

 

[Paisley Darts]

I say he deserves to be out there. I'll take the person who has had past success and more potential over some 4th round scrub who has only won 3 games as a starter and is a turnover machine.

And let me get this straight. You are referring to good knee, running, 2012 RG3 when you speak of "past success" right? That guy doesn't exist anymore. But it's your right to hold on and hang your hat on events that took place three years ago.

 

[mrken12]

my question is why did Jay pick Kirk over Colt

To be spiteful. Cousins was being overhyped as a diamond in the rough and better than RG3. Gruden wanted to prove that and show up Snyder, RG3, and the rest of the organization. It's blowing up in his face though.

 

[The D-List Vet]

To be spiteful. Cousins was being overhyped as a diamond in the rough and better than RG3. Gruden wanted to prove that and show up Snyder, RG3, and the rest of the organization. It's blowing up in his face though.

If Winston can blowout your team i think Jay will get fired seeing as how its the bye week after that game... plus that one thot who was giving head said Jay will get fired by the bye if they have a losing record

 

[Pitfalls0117]

This is year is honestly a blessing in disguise for rg3. Yeah he's missing a years worth of reps but he should just focus on healing up. While he's at it he can box up all the shyt at his crib because he won't be in dc much longer. Another team will definitely give him a shot. Look at Vick he was at the end of the road two years ago and he's still finding a way to stay on a roster