Guess This Is Why Vince Not Feeling D.Bryan

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This may end up being up there with the Nexus and Invasion storyline botches.

Ah well, embrace the #fukkery :ahh:

Not to derail the thread topic, but nothing will ever come close to wasted potential like the Invasion story line botch. I still shake my head at how that shyt eventually culminated.
 

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Yeah, Cena is the only dude who is a realistic threat to the streak. It honestly wouldn't shock me if they let him end the streak, nothing shocks me anymore with Cena. Take Monday for example - they had Sandow beat him down for ages before the match and beat him down for the whole match whilst Cena wrestled with one arm and he still won. Bear in mind you're talking about a guy who is already considered the best in the business and doesn't need to go over one bit.

I'd love Cena/Taker at WMXXX. Those near falls and pops from that crowd would be incredible :wow:
 

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Cena is not going over the Undertaker. He has went out on the record over and over again saying he doesn't want to wrestle him at Mania. He's more political than you think but he damn sure isn't winning over Undertaker after losing to the Miz at Mania.
 

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Cena is not going over the Undertaker. He has went out on the record over and over again saying he doesn't want to wrestle him at Mania. He's more political than you think but he damn sure isn't winning over Undertaker after losing to the Miz at Mania.

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Why wouldn't you want to wrestle Undertaker at Wrestlemania? It's probably bigger match than the main-event these days. That match would be huge! Who else is gonna face Undertaker? Lesnar is the only other guy and whilst that match would also be huge, you know there is absolutely no way Lesnar (a part-timer) is gonna end the streak. However with Cena (WWE's poster boy and only big name), there is a little possibility they may give him the win.

WWE desperately needs to make new guys for the future that can put on big matches when 'Taker, HBK, HHH aren't able to. Letting Cena defeat the streak would go even further to making him a huge name and thus a big money draw for years to come at WM.
 

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I agree with @saysumthinfunnymike , WWE has been entertaining as hell compared to recent years. Cena actually has new blood in the main event scene and its working wonders (Punk, Bryan, Shield, etc)

People talk about how bad about Vince Russo was but Vince Russo was right, no one cares about these little vanilla midgets on a grand stage. People forget how bland WWE was when Bret Hart and HBK were in their prime (93-97), that "New Generation" shyt was corny as a mother, its just nostalgic nowadays for YouTube purposes but i would never want to go back to those years.

Russo took WWE to new heights when he added that realistic, gritty feel to the WWE programming from 98-99 and once he left, WWE died. After Russo left WWE in 1999, Vince McMahon ran with Russo's previously planned writing formula for 1 year and after that, Vince couldnt think of any new ideas, Thats why WWE died in 2001, they tried new ideas of their own like the Invasion idea and the Brand Split idea.

WWE is just back to where they have always been, a circus like company with a cult or passive fanbase of moms and kids, the Attitude Era kids are all 20 somethings adults now getting their blood thirsty combat sport fix from UFC and even UFC stole some WWE type ideas with their catchy hype promos and twitter beefs to spark interest in ppvs.

Thats some real shyt right there.. I know that i didnt even watch WWE until around 98 when shyt got real.. I hate to say that about D bry, I think he deserved a chance to wear the belt just because people like the Miz had it for a while and Khali had it, He should get a run off GP..
 

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Do any of the young guys happen to have an on-going WM streak?

I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to have a new streak on deck for when Taker officially retires for good.
 

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Do any of the young guys happen to have an on-going WM streak?

I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to have a new streak on deck for when Taker officially retires for good.
:hmm:The Miz is undefeated at Wrestlemania. :ohmy:.......seriously:snoop:
 

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Cena is not going over the Undertaker. He has went out on the record over and over again saying he doesn't want to wrestle him at Mania. He's more political than you think but he damn sure isn't winning over Undertaker after losing to the Miz at Mania.

He also said he'd be out 4-6 months
 

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Summerslam 2011 (Cena vs Punk) = 296,000

SS 2012 (Brock vs. HHH) = 358,000

SS 2013 (Cena vs. Bryan) - 298,000

Just for the record. What dos this teach us, fellow classmates?


The wwe puts better build material into a cripple ache main event.
Than, they do any the main event of any other wrassler.


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I agree with @saysumthinfunnymike , WWE has been entertaining as hell compared to recent years. Cena actually has new blood in the main event scene and its working wonders (Punk, Bryan, Shield, etc)

People talk about how bad about Vince Russo was but Vince Russo was right, no one cares about these little vanilla midgets on a grand stage. People forget how bland WWE was when Bret Hart and HBK were in their prime (93-97), that "New Generation" shyt was corny as a mother, its just nostalgic nowadays for YouTube purposes but i would never want to go back to those years.

Russo took WWE to new heights when he added that realistic, gritty feel to the WWE programming from 98-99 and once he left, WWE died. After Russo left WWE in 1999, Vince McMahon ran with Russo's previously planned writing formula for 1 year and after that, Vince couldnt think of any new ideas, Thats why WWE died in 2001, they tried new ideas of their own like the Invasion idea and the Brand Split idea.

WWE is just back to where they have always been, a circus like company with a cult or passive fanbase of moms and kids, the Attitude Era kids are all 20 somethings adults now getting their blood thirsty combat sport fix from UFC and even UFC stole some WWE type ideas with their catchy hype promos and twitter beefs to spark interest in ppvs.


Prilific posting!!!

Vince, Steph, and cripple ache Ran away all their drawing components and fans.
from, The outcome of mania 2ooo.
I saw mania 2ooo, in what was Chicago's top sports bar and before this.
The sportsbar never had anything wrasslin related.
I know so,..because my company even rented this place out for Xmas dinners.
Wwf was that big, of a domestic mainstream.

At mania that year, I enjoyed it because I was a smart in total mark heaven.
The fans were great till the end of the me.
When cripple ache went over.
I never seen such a total change in energy in a move event ever.
When shyt I saw the bears lose the super bowl out in public.
Even then, I have never seen the disdain immediately switch for a fanbase.
wwe ruined their fan perception.
They do not understand, that db and punk.
Are why people even watch wrasslin past kids trained from Saturday morning.
The story they setup to recapture the steam from summer of punk, was setup to be incredible.
Yet, they made it about the McMahon's.
When, I really think no one wants to be reminded about the past product that drew.
Just like wcw, and the attitude era.
The reason why wrasslin drew to a boom was.
Wrasslin had no connection to 80's or early to mid90's wrasslin.
That is even one reason, I started to rewatch in 96-97, and solidlyin 1998.
As wrasslin was completely different from rocknroll wrasslin, and the early lose my smile era, that ran me away.
I really feel that the wwe was on to sumfin with cena as an urban wigger mix.
The only problem was the wwe kept cripple ache around.
Instead of repackaging him away from a corporate type of role.
They rolled him into being vkm lite.
With flair 80's booking with guys who were nowhere near talented enough to represent a horseman stable.
Instead of booking him separate from brock and using him as the catalyst for splitting the title up.
When that happened,..
It reverted it back to the tone of what fans remembered from mania 2ooo.
Which will forever hurt the product.
The same as it was when wwf and wcw.
continued to book hogun as a bruno unbeatable face, with none of Bruno's inring talent.
When cripple ache put the title back on Orton flanking him in a turn.
When, real talk...
the smackdown db vs Orton feud that db was booked as the victor.
Was better because db and Orton were alone and db proved himself, in better quality circumstances.
Ending in the keno stick Orton taps ending.
This time,...
Wwe paid no attention to detail of that feud.
They did not even give db's knee finisher a name.
or campaign to get over db's legit dominance of the roster, when cena chose db leading up to it , either.
They forgot about all his actual wins, in the proving himself angle.
Then, restarted the proving himself with no continuity from the previous one.
Which totally ruined the perception of the character to a casual fan, just peeking in.
Db, never once mentioned he made Orton tap.
Plus, db was neutered on the mic.
when he is better than Orton and cripple ache easily in promo.
after db won, the title from cena.
No mention of the finisher as a new threat to Orton.
If compared to how wwe put the machine behind the draws they like in the me.
no name,...
They did not even lift Scott Keith's naming of the move. Which could have set off a punk feud, naturally.
As it could have planted seeds for the goat2sleep versus the go2sleep.
Instead, no mention of it.
It definately was not built up like past finishers of the champions they really cared about like:

Stunner
Rko
Pedigree
the punt
Fu
Attitude adjustment = both were given SIGnificant builds. Even if it was a name change for the same move.

Also,...wwe did the same thing with another failed draw as champ, edge.
They never emphasized his edge-o-matic from the edge-a-cution, to the dowward spiral or spear.
So, if edge was in control offensively as a heel.
the fan base never knew what to cheer.
the current issue is the commentary never gets over the characters as a purposeful agenda.
Commentary in wwe is like listening to some women talk about twitter and the view.
There is nuffin present to make you want to dial in as a casual fan.
Wwe can not emulate the CBS NFL commentary style in tone.
Like Cole does cosmetically as a voice over product.
The wwe needs to create its own brand of commentary and puts new voices behind it.
Instead of cole's vince meets the cbs NFL commentary of joe buck and troy aikman.
Wwe needs to etch this Gen out as different from the past.
Not create a throwback alternate universe.
Where, the corporation is in charge with no real central threat booked to be believeable to change things.
Plus, a product to welled in a formula.
that is a failed Boom reducing draw from close to fifteen years old since mania 2ooo.

Art Barr
 
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