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OP failed to mention Summer Walker had that Drake stimulus package. Once that formula worked for an unknown Migos its has been tried and tru ever since.

HER has yet to make a hit song that resonates on that same level as what Ella Mae had.
Why does this matter in the streaming era?


Against Me is better than like 80% of what female R&b artists are doing today
 

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Call me bitter or old but I will forever dispute this selling nonsense. Streaming is not sales

SPS (Streaming plus sales) is the biggest juug in the industry at the moment. I'd really like to see the financials behind how the labels are getting paid out of this and what goes back to the artist.

In the old model, the label would sign an artist to a contract e.g 5 years for $2 million and 3 albums. That $2 million was essentially fronting the artist into the game. The CD sales from the albums was a means to recoup the $2million that was originally put up, with the artist getting a certain portion of that.

I'd really like to understand how this new streaming set up works, especially as streaming platforms decide who get's preference on certain playlists and on their discovery pages. I think streaming helps older artists that might not have the labels to push their old work anymore, but for younger upcoming artists, I'm not sure.
 

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Why does this matter in the streaming era?


Against Me is better than like 80% of what female R&b artists are doing today


I'm responding to OP saying Summer Walker doing 125K must have HERs handlers confused. I'm pointing out that the Drake co sign helped those Summer Walker numbers.
 

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SPS (Streaming plus sales) is the biggest juug in the industry at the moment. I'd really like to see the financials behind how the labels are getting paid out of this and what goes back to the artist.

In the old model, the label would sign an artist to a contract e.g 5 years for $2 million and 3 albums. That $2 million was essentially fronting the artist into the game. The CD sales from the albums was a means to recoup the $2million that was originally put up, with the artist getting a certain portion of that.

I'd really like to understand how this new streaming set up works, especially as streaming platforms decide who get's preference on certain playlists and on their discovery pages. I think streaming helps older artists that might not have the labels to push their old work anymore, but for younger upcoming artists, I'm not sure.

Never forgot when scorpion came out the album ended up on all sorts of Spotify play lists. The scandanavian songs play list had drake songs in it all of a sudden. That says alot.
 

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No it doesnt. Best Part is no "Boo'd Up."

And I'm the guy that roots for both Daniel and Gabby.

The key word is "resonates." Boo'd Up was certainly a more popular song as far as radio play and billboard charts but it gets trickier when it comes to music that resonates. The general feeling with Boo'd Up was that it was catchy as hell but people ultimately got sick of it being played so much. Best Part had a more timeless quality with a "this will be played at weddings for years to come" vibe. I compare it to "For You" by Kenny Lattimore. Didn't kill the charts when it was first dropped but had huge staying power to the point where it's now seen as the quintessential wedding song
 

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Sad to say but I agree.

She making little ratchet bops too.

Haven't been feeling much of her new work.
 

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SPS (Streaming plus sales) is the biggest juug in the industry at the moment. I'd really like to see the financials behind how the labels are getting paid out of this and what goes back to the artist.

In the old model, the label would sign an artist to a contract e.g 5 years for $2 million and 3 albums. That $2 million was essentially fronting the artist into the game. The CD sales from the albums was a means to recoup the $2million that was originally put up, with the artist getting a certain portion of that.

I'd really like to understand how this new streaming set up works, especially as streaming platforms decide who get's preference on certain playlists and on their discovery pages. I think streaming helps older artists that might not have the labels to push their old work anymore, but for younger upcoming artists, I'm not sure.

They recoup on tours, licensing royalties and merch.

They can't recoup through sales anymore.
 

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Yea the music industry seems less and less about music and more about using music as a platform to sell an image.

Never been about music breh. They are essentially banking marketeers with eternal ownership rights.

They used to recoup the initial advance out of your earnings regardless of whether they'd already recouped from their cut.
 

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Has there been a h.e.r rollout I missed? Low quality easily listenable apparent message music will always connect quicker.

That summer album got a push from girls need love remix lets see where it settles in at.

H.E.R will be ok
 

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The key word is "resonates." Boo'd Up was certainly a more popular song as far as radio play and billboard charts but it gets trickier when it comes to music that resonates. The general feeling with Boo'd Up was that it was catchy as hell but people ultimately got sick of it being played so much. Best Part had a more timeless quality with a "this will be played at weddings for years to come" vibe. I compare it to "For You" by Kenny Lattimore. Didn't kill the charts when it was first dropped but had huge staying power to the point where it's now seen as the quintessential wedding song

OP is the one who is saying she isn't connecting. And I agree. Sounds like u like that song so much its clouding your perception of how things really are offline.
 
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