Has Jay-Z evolved as an artist at all?

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So if he doesn't do introspective songs he's not evolving?
Its not about instrospective songs breh

Has he evolved skillswise? No

Has his subject matter evolved? He used to kick street smarts before now its all about braggin

Hes wack now, still a legend forever will be but hes garbage
 

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Its not about instrospective songs breh

Has he evolved skillswise? No

Has his subject matter evolved? He used to kick street smarts before now its all about braggin

Hes wack now, still a legend forever will be but hes garbage

Now he's all about bragging? :snoop:

Say any false blanket statement, and it's automatically true when it comes to dude.
 

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The real question is can superficial change really count as evolution?

Not for a second do i think the recent changes in his image and slight change in his content is genuine. More a necessary move for survival at a time in hiphop when 'im just a hustler gettin his money' gimmick has fallen out of favor to 'im an artiste' gimmick, so out goes hov the hustla now it's hov the art collector and indie rock fan. Since working with Kanye on WTT he's learned how to hide the regular jiggy/flossy raps under the guise of 'black excellence' and psuedo pro-black posturing, adopting a 'see me see you' ethos swagger jacked straight from Mitt Romney's campaign.
 

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Now he's all about bragging? :snoop:

Say any false blanket statement, and it's automatically true when it comes to dude.

:usure:

So he still spittin' that street shyt? If jay was respected as an emcee was cause of how clever his shyt used to be and how he'd spit the ill street smart bar here n there...

This nikka hasn't evolved at all... Now its all about bein' the black Clint Eastwood, the straight Elton John, Blue Ivvy this, B. that, europe, cold play, Im so fukkin' rich...

You could prolly relate to his shyt now, if you a white middled age midlife crisis havin' hipster...

I don't really blame him cuz I know all tryina do is make money, but the hood not fukkin' with him anymore...

The type of shyt he brags about is not the same shyt the average black male brags about, and why would it be?

Jay went from the Marcy PJs hustla who used rap to launder his dope money to this 49 year old cac who is insecure n :old: n :flabbynsick:

:scusthov:

''Private Jet cruisin' the Atlantic to the South of France
Blue Ivy, Cold Play, B. and Obama, its all I glance
Rap's Lennon, pick up Deniro in spain, next flight to Sundance''

:scusthov:

You got it made like him if you relate to that dross...
 

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:usure:

So he still spittin' that street shyt? If jay was respected as an emcee was cause of how clever his shyt used to be and how he'd spit the ill street smart bar here n there...

This nikka hasn't evolved at all... Now its all about bein' the black Clint Eastwood, the straight Elton John, Blue Ivvy this, B. that, europe, cold play, Im so fukkin' rich...

You could prolly relate to his shyt now, if you a white middled age midlife crisis havin' hipster...

I don't really blame him cuz I know all tryina do is make money, but the hood not fukkin' with him anymore...

The type of shyt he brags about is not the same shyt the average black male brags about, and why would it be?

Jay went from the Marcy PJs hustla who used rap to launder his dope money to this 49 year old cac who is insecure n :old: n :flabbynsick:

:scusthov:

''Private Jet cruisin' the Atlantic to the South of France
Blue Ivy, Cold Play, B. and Obama, its all I glance
Rap's Lennon, pick up Deniro in spain, next flight to Sundance''

:scusthov:

You got it made like him if you relate to that dross...

I don't relate to Prodigy being a super gangster
I don't relate to Raekwon being the black Scarface
I don't relate to Curren$y having the flyest shyt and smoking the best weed
I don't relate to Brotha Lynch being a cannibal serial killer
I don't relate to Ross selling the most dope

Hell, there may not be any rapper i can totally relate to, but their music is still dope to me, and that's all that matters.

Only with Hov is he penalized for some of the most frivolous shyt.
 
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I don't relate to Prodigy being a super gangster
I don't relate to Raekwon being the black Scarface
I don't relate to Curren$y having the flyest shyt and smoking the best weed
I don't relate to Brotha Lynch being a cannibal serial killer
I don't relate to Ross selling the most dope

Hell, there may not be any rapper i can totally relate to, but their music is still dope to me, and that's all that matters.

Only with Hov is he penalized for some of the most frivolous shyt.

Exactly. And if he kept rapping about street shyt, people would complain he's not about that life anymore because he's rich. He can't win.
 
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