Has Jay-Z truly lost it?

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he's too unrelatable now i guess than when he first got on.even though he did claim to be a big time drug dude his attitude was different.

his music can bang but it just doesn't last with me like some of his early superstar stuff which i sometimes listen to today.
 

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IMO He's not lost, he just doesn't make the est music any more. There's a couple of cats better than him like ASAP, Drake, Cole, Nas, Kendrick and Yeezus. Never in history has that many cats been better than Hov at any given time. He can still kill a verse, drop a classic joint but overall he's not top 5 anymore which he was every year between 96 and 2011ish.

On Monster he got outshined by a comedy rapper doing funny voices.

Jays been kinda crap since the fake retirement, I liked his last album but it is what it is.
Yet he completely offed Nas (who had te 2nd best album of 2012) on his latest album, completely destroyed Drake (who might have the best album of 2013 after Kanye and top 3 of the new generation), murked Kendrick (best new rapper) so he had to go and record another verse and get completely off topic to have the best verse, offed J. Cole (another top 3), offed Big Sean (another top rapper according to people).


Getting outhined by Nicki and then having the best verse on the very same album, which also happens to be best album of 2010. Should indicate that your analogy is worthless. Haters are gonna do what haters are gonna do though.
 
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IMO He's not lost, he just doesn't make the est music any more. There's a couple of cats better than him like ASAP, Drake, Cole, Nas, Kendrick and Yeezus. Never in history has that many cats been better than Hov at any given time. He can still kill a verse, drop a classic joint but overall he's not top 5 anymore which he was every year between 96 and 2011ish.


Yet he completely offed Nas (who had te 2nd best album of 2012) on his latest album, completely destroyed Drake (who might have the best album of 2014 after Kanye and top 3 of the new generation), murked Kendrick (best new rapper) so he had to go and record another verse and get completely off topic to have the best verse, offed J. Cole (another top 3), offed Big Sean (another top rapper according to people).


Getting outhined by Nicki and then having the best verse on the very same album, which also happens to be best album of 2010. Should indicate that your analogy is worthless. Haters are gonna do what haters are gonna do though.

Harry B this cant be you :snoop:
 

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he's too unrelatable now i guess than when he first got on.even though he did claim to be a big time drug dude his attitude was different.

his music can bang but it just doesn't last with me like some of his early superstar stuff which i sometimes listen to today.
When did he claim to be a big time drug dealer?
Transporting 8balls in a rental between NY and DMV and being worth a 100 grand, having a rollie and a lexus in the early 90s for a mid 20s dude who had been grinding for like 10 years without doing any longer bids is big time drug dealer?

Typical Jay-z drug dealing lines
Was nikkaz thinkin simplify was turning cocaine crack?
Ain't a whole lot of brain to that, just trying to maintain a stack
and knock a lot like two trains that's on the same track
'Fore I get my life together like the oars I bring back
In the bottom of the pot where no, water gets hot
Got my transporter take it 'cross the border then stop
Set up shop with a quarter of rock, here's the plan
For three straight weeks, nikkaz slaughtered the block
But you know the game is 'lluted, fukked up me and my dues
One drop can wipe a nikka out, faster than the cops
and this unstable way of living just, had to stop

We started out makin, small time bacon
Two little nikkaz bakin, talkin bout whippin cakes
Get clothin and big cheddar, hopin it gets better
We had no knowledge of this shyt we just was with whatever
In front of your buildin clockin, thought I was makin a killin
Right in front of your children, eightball in my side pocket
They was corrupt too, disrespectin the fiends I used to
look up to, take it or leave it, fukk you

I got my two guns, I came to scoop ones
A down ass bytch and she down to click
Got a nice little hooptie that I get around with
And my plan is, not to leave this town til I'm rich
Gotta find a nikka sellin all them ounces and shyt
Tell them get down with the click or get found in a ditch

Even his most boastful drug dealing rhymes were real.

Yo, yeah, I got that stress and I got it the best
I ain't got it to give but I got it to test
And if you wanna get down, all you gotta invest
is your time, I gotta move this in a, week or less
For the next couple of days I brought her all I posessThe Rolex, necklaces with the VVS
Twin to drive in the passenger with a TV rest
For my top draft picks I cop the new GS
Now all the little soldiers wanna roll with my team
Cause I ain't sold em a dream, I just showed em the cream
Picked em up in the afternoons and told em some things
You know the regular shyt you do when you moldin them teens

Compare that to other drug dealing rappers :laugh:
nikkas had houses in Panama and shyt.
 
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Pound Cake is one of the worst verses of the year, lmao @ destroying Drake

Kendrick embarrassed him on BDKMV remix

fukkin stans
Your dumb ass does not even understand Jay's bkdkmv verse.
Every single line was just a tightly connected series of metaphors.

And I said that Kendrick had the best verse, since he recorded another verse after Jay-z made his first verse completely irrelevant.
But in order to have a better verse he had to stars rapping fast, forceful with his "du du du, blao blao blao ad-libs" and get completely off topic defying the whole concept of the song.
 

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He can still bring it when he wants to but after 20 years in the game and hundreds of records what does Jay really have to prove or rap about anymore? There's only so many ways to say you sold drugs or are wearing the newest fashion label after saying it so many times over the years.
 

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Yes pound cake..

Meaning people in real life actually love that verse

Only nerdy ass hipster ass cac overcompensating fakkits think otherwise :ehh:
no hip hop fan likes that verse and i leave the computer chair, dont try to shyt on nikkas cause you like the new softer jay-z
 

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I don't get Jayz stans, he's the only rapper where an L seems inconceivable for them. Many rappers have made great and bad music yet somehow when it comes to his stans they find a way to justify or explain something that others or most don't approve of. His Pound Cake verse was horrible, no question and if any other rapper had that verse, those same stans would agree it was bad yet when it comes to the stans "he has quotables, underrated verse" really?? "Kingdom Come, underrated album" really??. I feel at this point he has no need to rap and it shows, and that's not a bad thing, he seems to be doing good in other areas.
 

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