Has the NBA become a glorified 3 point contest?

[I.AM.PIFF]

people did enjoy the pistons holding teams under 70

No, I didn't

 

[Originalman]

Handchecking wont do anything to stop the threes, the Rockets & Magic took threes by the truckload in the 90s when there was handchecking.

The only way to really address it would be removing the corner three altogether and pushing the line out to 25-26 feet.

I actually don't think moving the line out is needed. The initial rule changes stopping holding and grabbing, allowing zone, taking away the physicality in the paint, allowing moving picks was to increase scoring, fast breaking, explosive plays and help players that were not as athletic.

The exec for the Washington wizards even mention this at the time (he did an interview with ESPN some years ago).

The players and coaches are only shooting more 3s because the rules are tilted in that favor to be rewarded doing that. No more difference than the rule changes in the NFL where you are rewarded more for passing 70% of the time than running 70% of the time because you can't touch or punish WRs. Meaning that they are running throughout the field un touched.

IMO if the league just started to not allow moving picks (many of these threes come off of moving picks in which the pick setter is basically blocking like a OL). Eliminate zone which is setting up open shooters especially the corner three and allow post player to 1 get actual fouls when they post up and 2 stop allowing small players beat them up without them returning the favor.

Think about this. How many times has there been a switch and a little man is on a center or PF in the paint. The offense can't even pass the dude the ball because he is getting either mugged by the small dude and the refs will not call a foul. Or the post player is getting tripled team in the paint which was illegal when there was illegal defense. Or the center or PF gets physical with the little man and the refs call a bull shyt offensive foul which was never called in the past.

So the offense player that is trying to pass to the center or PF says fukk it and shoots a three because the new rules have basically made the miss match a total non advantage. Where as in the past that little man would have been barbecue chicken before the rule changes.

That is another reason why big dudes have abandoned the post game and now is the triple threat more often. I literally hate seeing dude like cousins or the gasol brothers literally not able to get a fukking foul posting up. But will drift out 18 feet in the triple threat and suddenly get a foul. shyt is disgusting.

 

[Originalman]

Also as I have stated here before there are a lot of parallels between the NFL and NBA. From how they both have tried to take physicality out of their games and speed it up. To how players get super star calls and how at times the refs try to keep the games close during contests.

Both leagues have made immense rule changes over the last 40 years to increase explosive plays for the fans and casula fans. From the NFL allowing OL to use their hands when pass blocking to the NBA allowing the two steps plus gather move.

Both rules are never allowed back in the day and have resulted in more passing yard plus touch down catches and more drives to the basket and high light dunks.

 

[NatiboyB]

People find anything to complain about

As if 1998 Knicks Heat games with 70-80 points scored were entertaining...

Or people enjoyed when the Pistons were holding teams to 70 points.

People will always complain and then look back on things from the past with a mythological view.

they were entertaining....just like the games of today are as well...People tend to forget that in the 80s teams were high scoring as well and than it became low scoring...Right now the league is perimeter and guard play heavy placing an emphasis on more skill than brawn.

People complained than and they complain now...Only thing i want back is hand checks

 

[UpAndComing]

People find anything to complain about

As if 1998 Knicks Heat games with 70-80 points scored were entertaining...

Or people enjoyed when the Pistons were holding teams to 70 points.

People will always complain and then look back on things from the past with a mythological view.

Sorry, but I actually like watching intelligent basketball

 

[Tookalossfellbackcameback]

Analytics has played a major role as well. Those that put a huge emphasis on percentages and numbers don't believe that post play from bigs and mid-range jumpshots have much value. So in turn you have teams built to shoot 3's with little to no post presence at all. Teams aren't using the high PnR to force a switch and dump it down low on the mismatch...they want the switch to isolate a big and drive past him for a kick and 3 point shot or get the defense moving and swing it off that initial pass for a 3. Everything is predicated on having multiple 3 point shooters, and a lot of that stems from how much analytics has taken over the game.

 

[Hamza B.]

West wasn't terrible how it's just their top teams were incredible. Unlike the east where Cleveland is struggling to get top seed against fukking Toronto. It wasn't because it was competitive it was because they suck in comparison. West had better teams while the only powerhouse in the east really is the store-bought Cavs... Barely.

Now this nikka Lebron about to coast to another finals because he's in the Leastern conference with a group of allstars only to receive all the credit if they win but none of the blame if they lose

This post makes no sense. Cleveland was clearly not on the same level they are now during the regular season, so your point about Toronto is useless. And if you wanna talk regular season, Cleveland beat all the "elite" Western Conference teams in the West except GS this year.

Second part makes no sense, because you say Lebron will receive "none of the blame if they lose". What planet have you been on for the last 10-12 years? Lebron will be shyt on at every angle if he loses another finals this year. Even if the Cavs win, and Kyrie is the MVP, Lebron will get hate.

Did anyone in the media point out that Curry only had like one great game in last year's finals, and that Iggy won the MVP?

 

[Sonny Corinthos]

Def agree with the post about dudes having no skills other than catch and shoot. It's a copycat league for sure but all these teams looking to play like GS aren't getting it and it's gonna affect the game in the long run.

I love watching different styles of play but when I see a team like Boston launching 3s with their non shooting asses it makes for such a boring game and frustrating game to watch

I liked when each game you watched was played differently now besides skill level of the player you can only differentiate from like 4 squads in today's game.

Warrior ball
Spurs ball
Grizzly Ball
Bron Ball

 

[Remote]

The 3 point shot has become a bigger emphasis of offenses around the league these days.

But I don't buy this horse shyt about beautiful ball movement like that sort of thing never existed before.

 

[HoopLife]

Def agree with the post about dudes having no skills other than catch and shoot. It's a copycat league for sure but all these teams looking to play like GS aren't getting it and it's gonna affect the game in the long run.

I love watching different styles of play but when I see a team like Boston launching 3s with their non shooting asses it makes for such a boring game and frustrating game to watch

I liked when each game you watched was played differently now besides skill level of the player you can only differentiate from like 4 squads in today's game.

Warrior ball
Spurs ball
Grizzly Ball
Bron Ball

Don't forget the Thunder, they barely shoot that many 3s... They just take turns on offense

 

[The_Third_Man]

People find anything to complain about

As if 1998 Knicks Heat games with 70-80 points scored were entertaining...

Or people enjoyed when the Pistons were holding teams to 70 points.

People will always complain and then look back on things from the past with a mythological view.

This post sums up the coli

 

[UserNameless]

I actually don't think moving the line out is needed. The initial rule changes stopping holding and grabbing, allowing zone, taking away the physicality in the paint, allowing moving picks was to increase scoring, fast breaking, explosive plays and help players that were not as athletic.

The exec for the Washington wizards even mention this at the time (he did an interview with ESPN some years ago).

The players and coaches are only shooting more 3s because the rules are tilted in that favor to be rewarded doing that. No more difference than the rule changes in the NFL where you are rewarded more for passing 70% of the time than running 70% of the time because you can't touch or punish WRs. Meaning that they are running throughout the field un touched.

IMO if the league just started to not allow moving picks (many of these threes come off of moving picks in which the pick setter is basically blocking like a OL). Eliminate zone which is setting up open shooters especially the corner three and allow post player to 1 get actual fouls when they post up and 2 stop allowing small players beat them up without them returning the favor.

Think about this. How many times has there been a switch and a little man is on a center or PF in the paint. The offense can't even pass the dude the ball because he is getting either mugged by the small dude and the refs will not call a foul. Or the post player is getting tripled team in the paint which was illegal when there was illegal defense. Or the center or PF gets physical with the little man and the refs call a bull shyt offensive foul which was never called in the past.

So the offense player that is trying to pass to the center or PF says fukk it and shoots a three because the new rules have basically made the miss match a total non advantage. Where as in the past that little man would have been barbecue chicken before the rule changes.

That is another reason why big dudes have abandoned the post game and now is the triple threat more often. I literally hate seeing dude like cousins or the gasol brothers literally not able to get a fukking foul posting up. But will drift out 18 feet in the triple threat and suddenly get a foul. shyt is disgusting.

 

[mbewane]

Alonzo Mourning and Dale Davis stiff post moves were

80s saw better low post play

I agree but you can't put Mourning and Dale Davis in the same category lol Mourning at least could actually shoot the basketball

Difference is DeAndre is an elite shot blocker and with elite athleticism

He's an athlete, like Dwight. I'd rather watch basketball players tbh

 

[010101]

sports goons becoming a rare breed*

 

[Big Boss]

I actually don't think moving the line out is needed. The initial rule changes stopping holding and grabbing, allowing zone, taking away the physicality in the paint, allowing moving picks was to increase scoring, fast breaking, explosive plays and help players that were not as athletic.

The exec for the Washington wizards even mention this at the time (he did an interview with ESPN some years ago).

The players and coaches are only shooting more 3s because the rules are tilted in that favor to be rewarded doing that. No more difference than the rule changes in the NFL where you are rewarded more for passing 70% of the time than running 70% of the time because you can't touch or punish WRs. Meaning that they are running throughout the field un touched.

IMO if the league just started to not allow moving picks (many of these threes come off of moving picks in which the pick setter is basically blocking like a OL). Eliminate zone which is setting up open shooters especially the corner three and allow post player to 1 get actual fouls when they post up and 2 stop allowing small players beat them up without them returning the favor.

Think about this. How many times has there been a switch and a little man is on a center or PF in the paint. The offense can't even pass the dude the ball because he is getting either mugged by the small dude and the refs will not call a foul. Or the post player is getting tripled team in the paint which was illegal when there was illegal defense. Or the center or PF gets physical with the little man and the refs call a bull shyt offensive foul which was never called in the past.

So the offense player that is trying to pass to the center or PF says fukk it and shoots a three because the new rules have basically made the miss match a total non advantage. Where as in the past that little man would have been barbecue chicken before the rule changes.

That is another reason why big dudes have abandoned the post game and now is the triple threat more often. I literally hate seeing dude like cousins or the gasol brothers literally not able to get a fukking foul posting up. But will drift out 18 feet in the triple threat and suddenly get a foul. shyt is disgusting.