Cloud McFly
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That's weird, because I like American Gangster more than that album, and any album after with Kanye.
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Has Ye kept Jigga's career alive or the other way around ?
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That's weird, because I like American Gangster more than that album, and any album after with Kanye.
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havoc
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Don't underestimate Hov's relevancy. Hov was already established and had accomplished so much in selling platinum albums and hit singles before Kanye emerge as a star. Kanye added some flavors in Hov's music but he didn't carry Jay and that goes the same for Beyonce.
Cloud McFly
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Exactly!
That's how you know these cats saying otherwise are either young and don't know any better, or just plain dumb. Dude was a megastar before Kanye was even thought of. Now all of a sudden Kanye is responsible for his continued success when he isn't even as successful as dude nowadays.
Actin like Hov wasn't dropping coasters before BP3
Why bring up Kingdom come like American Gangster didn't happen.....bp3 is the start of a streak
I think it's a 2 way thing but. Without Jigga there would def be no Kanye. If Kanye didn't exist Hov would still be the biggest rapper in the industry...just rapping on more Just Blaze beats
You answered your own question
still wanted to hear other people's opinion breh
You answered your own question
havoc
Superstar
Maybe the ones who questioned Hov's relevancy are teenagers or either in their early twenties. nikkas were shytting in pampers when Hov was droppibg back to back multi plat albums
Air Nikes N Hats
Poor mans Johnny Football Lifestyle!
Without Kanye, The first Blueprint might not even exist as we know it. Definitely might have sounded a lot differently. The Blueprint is how Kanye broke out. Without those placements, he would probably still be ghost-producing/getting minimal credits for D-Dot
Julius Skrrvin
I be winkin' through the scope
Hov been rapping about art in bars here and there since reasonable doubt, and you're a straight crackhead if you're trying to say Hov had no interest in fashion before he met Kanye, considering he did things like............. start a clothing line and rap about clothes on every single album he's ever done.
Cloud McFly
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Hov been rapping about art in bars here and there since reasonable doubt, and you're a straight crackhead if you're trying to say Hov had no interest in fashion before he met Kanye, considering he did things like start a clothing line and rap about clothes on every single album he's ever done.
"You draw? Better be Picasso, you know the best. Cause if this is not so, eh, god bless"
These young nikkas don't know shyt, but swear they have the knowledge to speak on everything
Julius Skrrvin
I be winkin' through the scope
I flow too many ways, got a arch in my flow"You draw? Better be Picasso, you know the best. Cause if this is not so, eh, god bless"
These young nikkas don't know shyt, but swear they have the knowledge to speak on everything
All sorts of flow, Rembrandt, Rilke
I am art with the flow
Even if I'm guilty, you gotta pardon the flow
up in here
Superstar
This thread is stupid. Both are stars in their own right.
Kanye didn't follow Jay's blueprint (no pun), his music speaks for itself. But, his Rocafella affiliation did help him get established though.
And yeah Jay has benefited by being affiliated with the megastar that Kanye became, but Jay been doing his thing for years, and if not Kanye he would have found another dikk to ride for attention. he been doing it his whole career, long before Kanye.
Neither is entirely responsible for the others success but they both have benefited from being affiliated with each other
Kanye didn't follow Jay's blueprint (no pun), his music speaks for itself. But, his Rocafella affiliation did help him get established though.
And yeah Jay has benefited by being affiliated with the megastar that Kanye became, but Jay been doing his thing for years, and if not Kanye he would have found another dikk to ride for attention. he been doing it his whole career, long before Kanye.
Neither is entirely responsible for the others success but they both have benefited from being affiliated with each other
the funny part is hov was talkin that art shyt on BP3, but i never heard anybody say nothing about it
one idiot mentioned it after magna carta, and all the sheeps follow with hate
anyway, thread is comedy... full of woulda kids
one idiot mentioned it after magna carta, and all the sheeps follow with hate
anyway, thread is comedy... full of woulda kids
Complex is wrong. Timbaland leaked "Ghetto Techno" himself on a Ustream and even stated that he "kept the best for himself" in regard to that song. Tim had no friction with Kanye, but had friction with Jay Z. The whole debacle with Tim's songs leaking were a result of that. Jay didn't keep Timbo from ruining BP3.
Blueprint 3 still ranks as one of Jay's worst albums even with Kanye producing the bulk of it. I mean, Kanye gave Jay a couple of duds on that album as well. A lot of Jay fans don't like "Hate" or "Young Forever".