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For one, they have better vocal deliveries and more memorable production.
Both have :scust: deliveries in my opinion.

Kendrick and Cole have a much better pen. If you put production into the question, you might aswell take Nas out of the GOAT conversation. It's no secret that he has shytty production on most of his albums.:wtb:
 

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Both have :scust: deliveries in my opinion.

:russ: You can't be serious.

To be honest with you, I don't like Drake's delivery 98% of the time. I still think it's better than Cole and Kendrick's though :yeshrug:

Rocky's delivery on his best work is fukking incredible. You cannot tell me that shyt sounds bad. I just wont believe you.

Kendrick and Cole have a much better pen. If you put production into the question, you might aswell take Nas out of the GOAT conversation. It's no secret that he has shytty production on most of his albums.:wtb:

Whoa buddy... let's not deflect to Nas now. :comeon: Let's keep it within the new school as you initially asked.

and no, Kendrick and Cole do not have a better pen than Drake. or ASAP for that matter. Forget the marketing and lettuce be reality here. They're all weak in the pen department.
 

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:russ: You can't be serious.

To be honest with you, I don't like Drake's delivery 98% of the time. I still think it's better than Cole and Kendrick's though :yeshrug:

Rocky's delivery on his best work is fukking incredible. You cannot tell me that shyt sounds bad. I just wont believe you.



Whoa buddy... let's not deflect to Nas now. :comeon: Let's keep it within the new school as you initially asked.

I can't stand Rocky or Drake. That's just me.

And Nas is a perfect example for this. Why should new school abide by different rules to suit your corner?
 

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I can't stand Rocky or Drake. That's just me.

Fair enough. But look beyond yourself for a second. You cannot seriously tell me that Kendrick and J Cole have better vocal deliveries than Drake. Drake may be a mediocre rapper and singer, but for the simple fact that he tries (and pulls off pop singing decently well), his voice is more flexible and emotive than Kendrick and Cole.

ASAP Rocky can sing. Listen to LSD. It's not great singing by any means, but his voice is far more flexible and charismatic than Cole and Kendrick's. The shyt is a no brainer.

And Nas is a perfect example for this. Why should new school abide by different rules to suit your corner?

No. I'm not gonna waste my time talking about Nas. I wish you Cole and Kendrick fans could have a coherent convo about your heroes without deflecting. Mainly to legendary artists.

You came into this thread with this question:

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What makes Drake, A$AP Rocky or any other new school artist a better rapper than J Cole or Kendrick?

Where the fukk does Nas fit into this shyt? If you wanna talk about Nas, consider this convo over.
 

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The dude you quoting is white he only knows the hood from rap music

I think you got me confused with yourself.

People know I'm white....they also know the streets I lived on....they know the high schools I went to.....hell, I even posted high school pictures. I'm the only white person in them.



The only thing we know about you is you pretended to share your Coli account with your "wife" so you could dikk ride Drake more efficiently.

And I guarantee you won't post any high school pics. Gotta keep up appearances, right? :sas1:

Fred.
 

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I think you got me confused with yourself.

People know I'm white....they also know the streets I lived on....they know the high schools I went to.....hell, I even posted high school pictures. I'm the only white person in them.



The only thing we know about you is you pretended to share your Coli account with your "wife" so you could dikk ride Drake more efficiently.

And I guarantee you won't post any high school pics. Gotta keep up appearances, right? :sas1:

Fred.
I dont post any pictures on this site. Nothing you said makes my quote untrue. There are plenty of BLACK people that have pictures with hood folk, even lived there but are not hood and dont shyt about being hood.
 

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Fair enough. But look beyond yourself for a second. You cannot seriously tell me that Kendrick and J Cole have better vocal deliveries than Drake. Drake may be a mediocre rapper and singer, but for the simple fact that he tries (and pulls off pop singing decently well), his voice is more flexible and emotive than Kendrick and Cole.

No. I'm not gonna waste my time talking about Nas. I wish you Cole and Kendrick fans could have a coherent convo about your heroes without deflecting. Mainly to legendary artists.

You came into this thread with this question:



Where the fukk does Nas fit into this shyt? If you wanna talk about Nas, consider this convo over.

Let's use this song as an example as to why I think Cole's delivery is better than Drake's from my perspective.



Drake's voice sounds so rough, rugged and out of tune whereas Cole's sounds a lot smoother and fluent. Drake's flow on this song was also extremely basic and he sounds like he's trying to shyt whilst constipated as he's rapping.

As for the Nas shyt, I'm using him as a single example as to how production does NOT reflect on a rapper's skill as an actual rapper, therefore making your argument of "more memorable production" utterley irrelevent.

Nas the gawd but he has a bad taste in beat selections, yet still considered the GOAT? Why should Kendrick, Cole, A$AP or Drake be judged differently if we're judging them as RAPPERS? I already said in the past few days that Drake makes better music purely based on other people's opinions, which I honestly don't care for. I enjoy Kendrick and Cole's music a lot more but as rappers and writers, they are much better than Drake and A$AP.
 

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I dont post any pictures on this site. Nothing you said makes my quote untrue. There are plenty of BLACK people that have pictures with hood folk, even lived there but are not hood and dont shyt about being hood.

So basically you think you're qualified to call out people who can prove who and what they are, without providing anything that makes you credible. shyt like this is why you're sitting -4,500 in the red.

How do I know you ain't some white kid from Canada living vicariously through rap music? How do I know you ain't the token black friend?

Are you even black your damn self? :mjlol:

Fred.
 

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So basically you think you're qualified to call out people who can prove who and what they are, without providing anything that makes you credible. shyt like this is why you're sitting -4,500 in the red.

How do I know you ain't some white kid from Canada living vicariously through rap music? How do I know you ain't the token black friend?

Are you even black your damn self? :mjlol:

Fred.
Do us all a favour and ban him:blessed:
 

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So basically you think you're qualified to call out people who can prove who and what they are, without providing anything that makes you credible. shyt like this is why you're sitting -4,500 in the red.

How do I know you ain't some white kid from Canada living vicariously through rap music? How do I know you ain't the token black friend?

Are you even black your damn self? :mjlol:

Fred.
Im a black dude from birmingham
 
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