Whips-n-Chains
Chi
Yea the video 100% has the stove clicking sound added
Havoc Clears Up the Myth About Him Sampling a Stove in the 'Shook Ones, Pt. 2' Beat
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Yea the video 100% has the stove clicking sound added
@chopchop702 is full of shyt.
I have the shook ones vinyl single and there is no mention of Q Tip on it. Of course that dropped before the album so if Tip had involvement in it it would have been credited.
Tip definitely played a big part in the sound of the album via beefing up the drums, producing three songs and I imagine mixing and engineering, but the leap to “Q-Tip pretty much did all the beats” I Completey unsubstantiated bullshyt.
Had Tip actually fully produced the entire album, you’re telling me he would have just let Mobb Deep take all the credit, not to mention getting financially fukked over? It makes no sense. It doesn’t fit. If it doesn’t fit, @chopchop702 can eat a dikk.
chopchop702
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Tip did not “pretty much do all the beats”
The truth hurts, i get it.
Being a mobb stan im sure you have heard the survival of the fittest demo.
No hard hitting drums, no beautiful horn jazz samples during the chorus and end of the song. Its night and day.
Temperatures rising? Up north trip? Trife life? The album intro? Right back at you? Party over outro? Shook ones?
All the drums and blended mixed jazz samples in all of those beats? Its obvious WHO really was responsible for the production.
Just go listen to up north trip or trife life. The filtered bass lines and blending. Thats Q tip! Plain and simple. I bet havoc didnt do shyt on either of those 2 beats.
Theres a reason why the beats on hell on earth and murda muzik became much more basic and bland compared to the infamous
Im a mobb stan myself. Accept it. Its obvious
FunkDoc1112
Heavily Armed
????He should reveal the REAL secret to that beat
The fact that q tip actually made that shyt.
Havoc my have created that piano loop but q tip was responsible for everything else. The drums, the other blended samples, and engineering.
Anyone who is a student of hip hop production knows Q tip pretty much did all the beats on the infamous album. And he only got credit for like 2 of them.
Just listen to the drums on every track. Those are q tips ATCQ drums! And listen to the beautifully blended jazz samples in a lot of them. Thats signature q tip.
Probably why q tip never worked with them again and why the infamous album was so great
From Q Tips own mouth, the songs he touched were Start Of Your Ending, Survival of the Fittest, Up North Trip, RIght Back at You and Trife Life. And on all those songs, the kicks are compressed, the snares are super sizzly and loud, just like with the 100% Q Tip tracks in Give Up The Goods, Temperatures Rising and Drink Away the Pain. The Tip tracks also have some of his signature dynamic changes that you hear in Tribe records with the drums going in an out, brief pauses etc.
Shook Ones drums sound nothing like the other ones, as they're a straight drum loop of a classic break with an extra Snare added to give it a thump. The tracks that were 100% Havoc produced sound different from the rest of the album (Although QU Hectic sounds closer to Q Tip. Matt Life said that was one of the last tracks recorded and Havoc had basically mastered production by that point). Shook Ones beat is pretty similar to Cradle to the Grave and the OG Temperatures Rising - hard drums, and a sample without much dynamic changes.
And even the sample chops on Shook One's is pretty consistent with how Havoc samples, as he made Hell On Earth the same way by playing with the pitch ona piano sample. It's a product of him, like RZA, using a keyboard sampler.
On the flipside, Q Tip used an SP1200 and has never made a beat where he's going crazy with sample chops. He's best at finding the coolest or weirdest part of a sample and looping it/using filters etc.
Additionally, Shook Ones Pt. 2 was made before most of the album was recorded. Q-Tip hopped on late in the process.
Havoc has credited Tip for helping him on The Infamous numerous times to the point where Tip actually downplays his own involvement as just "turning a few knobs"
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FunkDoc1112
Heavily Armed
nikka, Q-Tip, Havoc, and Mobb Deep's A&R have all laid out EXACTLY which songs Q-Tip made uncredited contributions to and guess what? Shook Ones wasn;t one of them and if you really knew their production styles so well you'd know Shook Ones doesn't sound anything like Q-Tip the way Survival of the Fittest, Eye for an Eye, Trife Life, and Up North Trip do.
Q-Tip said that on those songs, Havoc made the beat and then he mixed them and put new drums on them. Since Tip was mixing he put his signature touch on them.
Q-Tip mixed a handful of tracks on Infamous, outside of what he produced. But Hav made the beats....there was no ghost production and this has been known for decades.
Wait I'm confused. People thought the stove part was the base for the beat, or are we talking only about the intro? I always thought he meant the intro was the stove, before it transitions into the cymbals for the beat.
Wait I'm confused. People thought the stove part was the base for the beat, or are we talking only about the intro? I always thought he meant the intro was the stove, before it transitions into the cymbals for the beat.
HARLEM AL
Your broad loves me.....
I’m shaking my head at nikkas not realizing this
Whips-n-Chains
Chi
Ppl thought the stove clicking was part of the beat. The video obviously has the stove sound for a few seconds but it cuts out as the the drums start. Probably ppl never realized the drums and the stove clicking were different bc of stupidity
Hitman's Shades
Pro
Wait WHAT?!
Never heard that one, hilarious!!
It was Aaron Hall saying "Dumb bytch" in an adlib/riff on Guy's Piece of My Love.
Timestamped:
Common referenced it here:
Teddy Riley confirmed thats what he said on one of the million times they was beefing over the years
But that shyt with the kettle and primo was real, right? 
Whips-n-Chains
Chi
But that shyt with the kettle and primo was real, right?
What kettle breh?
FunkDoc1112
Heavily Armed
@chopchop702 ALSO, Havoc first learned how to make beats from shadowing the Beatminerz, who also made heavy use of filtered basslines and blended jazz samples. Here's one Infamous demo that samples the same song Dre sampled for The Next Episode:
Basically the same type of beat as Trife Life and Up North Trip but without Q-Tip's drums
Basically the same type of beat as Trife Life and Up North Trip but without Q-Tip's drums
Whips-n-Chains
Chi
Why is this album erased off the internet? The properly named links never seem to stay active.
Maybe I'm getting the wrong song but I thought it was who's gonna take the weight that had that sample with the kettle
