Help me understand why remote work is a detriment?

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I prefer remote work, but y'all gotta stop acting like it's perfect.

The communication, the collaboration, the onboarding, the networking, the brainstorming, the mentoring is all worse.

Just them awkward Zoom pauses and lack of body language kills people wanting to interact. And them digital white boards are not the same.

The earlier we can recognize the downsides the earlier we can fix em.

(And I'm not gonna even get into the "if your job can be remote then they can outsource you" convo)
My entire department is remote and always have been, we have been perfectly fine. We meet up once a year and do teams meetings daily.
 

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OK, I was just saying why in office is a preference
It is only a preference for office space owners, shyt politicians and nearby restaurants. It sucks for those restaurants that get hit by it but i am not about to sacrifice my time and freedom so you can keep selling overpriced food. The companies that own the office space i cant give a shyt about them at all.
 

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It is only a preference for office space owners, shyt politicians and nearby restaurants. It sucks for those restaurants that get hit by it but i am not about to sacrifice my time and freedom so you can keep selling overpriced food. The companies that own the office space i cant give a shyt about them at all.
Why is it automatically overpriced food? No one sells food at an appropriate price point near work settings?
Think of the big picture the healthier the economy the likely healthier your company/organization is meaning your job is more secure.
 

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The announcement that was on Whitehouse.gov on Monday said only 6% of federal employees worked in the office. They'll continue to push the lie.

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IKYFL! This is why people are acting like feds' holiday, good times are ending



This is from OPM's report to congress in August 2024

Of the total 2.28 million personnel, 228 thousand or 10% of civilian personnel were in remote positions where there was no expectation that they worked in-person on any regular or recurring basis



People don't do their own research so all the gloating makes sense
 

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There is residual economic benefits to people going to work. Offices get leased, lunch is bought, transportation is used and office supplies are purchased. People working from home decreases all that.

who cares. my job was so happy about us working remote, they cancelled the lease on the entire building we were using for offices and were ecstatic with the savings from that alone.

I like NOT paying for gas, NOT paying for tolls, NOT paying for lunch, NOT wasting my time in traffic, NOT paying for dry cleaning, NOT having to buy work clothes. all that other shyt was a waste of money.
 
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I prefer remote work, but y'all gotta stop acting like it's perfect.

The communication, the collaboration, the onboarding, the networking, the brainstorming, the mentoring is all worse.

Just them awkward Zoom pauses and lack of body language kills people wanting to interact. And them digital white boards are not the same.

The earlier we can recognize the downsides the earlier we can fix em.

(And I'm not gonna even get into the "if your job can be remote then they can outsource you" convo)

What are you talking about? All the shyt you are talking about can be done remotely. I can't name all of the bullshyt meetings or "collaborations" i had to deal with in person that could of been handled remotely. Not even going to bring up having to fly to a site to get into a conference room to "communicate" when we could of done it from a Zoom or Teams call.

The exaggeration and backwards thinking of how remote work is damaging social interactions is nuts. If you can not do what you can do in a conference room remotely, that is a company issue and not a remote work issue. What is gained by waking up early, driving through traffic, sitting around all day until you get in a room with a bunch of other people so you can say in person what you could of done online?

I see this type of thought process mainly from the lonely and the old. Every time i would hear a complaint about remote work from my last job it would be from people that only interacted with others at work and those that were "old school". The crazy thing is that those people were in the extreme minority. My managers loved it, one of them even used it to move back home. People regardless of job title in my department loved it because that meant they had more time with their families and were saving money not commuting, More time to actually travel and get other shyt done, etc...

And as far as the "well if you are remote they can outsource you" talk, where in the fukk have you been the last decade in a half? I don't know what you do, but i am in IT and we have been getting on site outsourced forever and it is the same for bunch of other industries. They have been H1-B'ing it up for the longest, so why do you think all of a sudden they are going to start doing it like they have not already?

Even when i was onsite i was working with people remotely in India, so this fearmongering shyt has to stop.
 

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Why is it automatically overpriced food? No one sells food at an appropriate price point near work settings?
Think of the big picture the healthier the economy the likely healthier your company/organization is meaning your job is more secure.
Why in the fukk would a company that i work for that leases office space be hurt by having to lease LESS space? Not only less space but all the other costs with running an office? How is people commuting paying tolls/pub transit, buying lunch or coffee nearby and wasting space in an office economically better for the company?
 
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It can be isolating to some especially if you’re working long hours or starting a new job. Some people just work better in an office atmosphere where they have people to bounce off ideas from.

I went from a fully remote to a hybrid model and I’m a much better employee because of it :yeshrug:

Trust this guy to advocate for return-to-office :mjlol:
 
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