Heltah Skeltah Magnum Force doesn't get enough credit

[maxamusa]

if ruck was Sean P back then......

 

[HARLEM AL]

I liked the beats. But then again I am a BCC Stan.

 

[HARLEM AL]

 

[Flav]

My jam

 

[nieman]

Like I always say, I LOVE this album. Rockness was on fire.

 

[Juggalo Fred]

Always loved the song with the Outlawz on there P and Storm killed it

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

I need to re listen

 

[Awesome Wells]

Copped this when it dropped, and was definitely disappointed.

As a BCC stan, I just expected better. Lyrically, they were still on point. But we all wanted Evil Dee, Baby Paul and Walt to oversee production on this. They brought in a million producers, and that kinda had the album feeling like it was all over the place. This is when things started going downhill for BCC, to me. Before this, the camp was untouchable.

 

[Soylent Greenz]

Yea when you go back to this album, it was a major disappointment primarily because of beat selection and some of the features were terrible.
They were sharp lyrically as always but they need an EP to oversee the direction of it.
I still bump the first album and DIRT regularly tho.

 

[maxamusa]

Copped this when it dropped, and was definitely disappointed.

As a BCC stan, I just expected better. Lyrically, they were still on point. But we all wanted Evil Dee, Baby Paul and Walt to oversee production on this. They brought in a million producers, and that kinda had the album feeling like it was all over the place. This is when things started going downhill for BCC, to me. Before this, the camp was untouchable.

that group album they put out broke my heart as a BCC Stan..no lie I blame dru ha for all the mishaps just cause

 

[maxamusa]

Rock was WIGGIN

I love P but at that point Rock was clearly the stand out in the group

2 keep it a buck...ruck became THAT dude when he rebranded and dropped monkey barz. Might be the illest 2nd wind of all time

 

[maxamusa]

There was a lil tension between Heltah Skeltah and Da Beatminerz, even going back to Nocturnal. HS were openly critical of their sound, openly referring to them as the "Sweetminerz" on a few interviews cuz of how sensitive they said they were to criticism during recording sessions.

Sucks for us as fans tho. BCC is my favorite crew of all time and Da Beatminerz are my favorite producers because of those early BCC classics. My favorite Heltah Skeltah song by far is "Da Wiggy", which was a Beatminerz track.

BCC's biggest mistake was abandoning Beatminerz production after Da Storm.

Magnum Force had a forced West Coast vibe and sound due to Priority Records pushing that on them after signing a distribution deal with Duck Down. There were also a few unreleased cuts that didnt make that album that would have bolstered it.

Tony touch had some boat party thing I went 2 and evil dee was one of the DJs. I showed him love and brought up how much everyones debuts mean 2 me. He responded with something like "yea that aint nothin to our new shyt check it out" aggy AF switching up the temperature. He clearly feel some type of way

 

[Awesome Wells]

There was a lil tension between Heltah Skeltah and Da Beatminerz, even going back to Nocturnal. HS were openly critical of their sound, openly referring to them as the "Sweetminerz" on a few interviews cuz of how sensitive they said they were to criticism during recording sessions.

Sucks for us as fans tho. BCC is my favorite crew of all time and Da Beatminerz are my favorite producers because of those early BCC classics. My favorite Heltah Skeltah song by far is "Da Wiggy", which was a Beatminerz track.

BCC's biggest mistake was abandoning Beatminerz production after Da Storm.

Magnum Force had a forced West Coast vibe and sound due to Priority Records pushing that on them after signing a distribution deal with Duck Down. There were also a few unreleased cuts that didnt make that album that would have bolstered it.

Exactly.

Dee and Walt were the backbone of BCC. Without them, the ship just sank. And fast!

 

[maxamusa]

Exactly.

Dee and Walt were the backbone of BCC. Without them, the ship just sank. And fast!

 

[TripleAgent]

Copped this when it dropped, and was definitely disappointed.

As a BCC stan, I just expected better. Lyrically, they were still on point. But we all wanted Evil Dee, Baby Paul and Walt to oversee production on this. They brought in a million producers, and that kinda had the album feeling like it was all over the place. This is when things started going downhill for BCC, to me. Before this, the camp was untouchable.

Yea when you go back to this album, it was a major disappointment primarily because of beat selection and some of the features were terrible.
They were sharp lyrically as always but they need an EP to oversee the direction of it.
I still bump the first album and DIRT regularly tho.

that group album they put out broke my heart as a BCC Stan..no lie I blame dru ha for all the mishaps just cause

Tony touch had some boat party thing I went 2 and evil dee was one of the DJs. I showed him love and brought up how much everyones debuts mean 2 me. He responded with something like "yea that aint nothin to our new shyt check it out" aggy AF switching up the temperature. He clearly feel some type of way

Buck and Dru Ha pulled the "we need to expand our sound" (translated: stop sampling so much), so more generic producers, less Beatminerz, and shyt went off the rails. All their fault. They all remained the same or got better lyrically, Sean went on to become a monster. Their whole run got derailed. Tremendous waste of talent. If Wu wasn't a worldwide phenom by Forever, they could have ended up the same way.