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Didn't his ass desecrate the oval office and was almost impeached? :jbhmm:


Memories fade, video is forever. :shaq::stopitslime:
Nobody Black cared about this in 1997. We ran out to help in 1998. I worked at an airport at the time and we shot to the polls to make sure we got some of his opposition taken out. He didn't desecrate shot with Monica, and his playlist isn't nearly as bad as JFK's. I know it's hip to hate him now, but let's not be complete hypocrites. The number one Black show is Empire, whose portrayal of Blacks is c00nish as fukk, but real to a lot of us.
 

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-Obama attempts at creating a precedence of hiring cabinet members who had no lobby ties failed miserably. So that shows how corrupt Washington is. Thus the hiring of old Clinton folks, which came about via the compromise of the 2008 election when Hillary and Bill was salty for losing

-Bill Clinton pushed for global economy at the expense of domestic industries and borders

-Bill failed at establishing national health program, which Obama delivered on

-Bill Clinton did not have to deal with "Blue dog democrats," while having control of both houses. Matter of fact, the Republicans gained control of congress under his watch

-Obama improved an economy that was on the brink of collapsing into a depression. What kind of economy did Bill inherit from Bush?


-Bill Clinton did not intervene in Rwanda, but did intervene in the Balkans

-Bill Clinton applied the same tactics by Reagan by appealing to welfare reform due to irresponsible black folks and law/order toughing due to irresponsible black folks
Both false. Bill Clinton improved on an economy in stall, not slow down, by George H W Bush, and improved in lessons Bush learned late and actually raised taxes to stimulate the economy. What he did at the end of his term, and the insanity of BUSH II's spending led to what Obama was given, so you're partially correct.

There has always been conservative Democrats. They usually got in line for the president's main agenda though. Clinton had many of them, which is why Universal Health Care was given up on
Instead of forcing Congress with the Mas of conviction, many splintered off at the daunting task of it.

All Obama did was give more tax cuts, to everyone he could find, and have the Fed pump QE (3 fukking times officially, with a lot of POMO), and another huge bailout. So yeah, Obama made Wall Street stronger, to give the illusion that the country was too. Meanwhile, there are estimates of 45-55% of Black men under 30 being unemployed or incarcerated. Hardly good numbers under the first Black president. Dropout rates amongst Blacks hasn't gone down either.
 

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Not sure what there is to gain for Shillary by making that comment, unless they are starting to play to republicans just as Trump says he appeals to dems.
 

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Nobody Black cared about this in 1997. We ran out to help in 1998. I worked at an airport at the time and we shot to the polls to make sure we got some of his opposition taken out. He didn't desecrate shot with Monica, and his playlist isn't nearly as bad as JFK's. I know it's hip to hate him now, but let's not be complete hypocrites. The number one Black show is Empire, whose portrayal of Blacks is c00nish as fukk, but real to a lot of us.
FOH with your dumbass. :camby:


I don't know what "we" you're talking about; I never fukked with him.
 

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FOH with your dumbass. :camby:


I don't know what "we" you're talking about; I never fukked with him.


Good then, i was talking everything I heard from Blacks and commentators in general. You are an individual and i respect that. I was there. We didn't give a shyt about Monica. Hate me and talk shot all you want, but he desecrated nothing. He was just a shyt dude to his wife, again, like Kennedy was to Jackie O.

I didn't say shyt in there to attack you, so I don't know what's up with the dumbass comment. If you can't take a debate without getting personal, leave HL, and stop trolling. I said NOTHING to disrespect you. Getting blowjobs that OTHER people leak from phone convos is not desecration of the office. Chill.

You begged for reps when Bernie won, am I gave you that. I'm obviously a dumbass for that, but what I've said is factual. We actually rallied behind Bill after Monica.
 
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Both false. Bill Clinton improved on an economy in stall, not slow down, by George H W Bush, and improved in lessons Bush learned late and actually raised taxes to stimulate the economy. What he did at the end of his term, and the insanity of BUSH II's spending led to what Obama was given, so you're partially correct.

There has always been conservative Democrats. They usually got in line for the president's main agenda though. Clinton had many of them, which is why Universal Health Care was given up on
Instead of forcing Congress with the Mas of conviction, many splintered off at the daunting task of it.

All Obama did was give more tax cuts, to everyone he could find, and have the Fed pump QE (3 fukking times officially, with a lot of POMO), and another huge bailout. So yeah, Obama made Wall Street stronger, to give the illusion that the country was too. Meanwhile, there are estimates of 45-55% of Black men under 30 being unemployed or incarcerated. Hardly good numbers under the first Black president. Dropout rates amongst Blacks hasn't gone down either.

The economy Clinton inherited wasn't the best, but in comparison to what Obama inherited, it wasn't crippling the global economy. Those bailouts saved American jobs and the auto industry. The too big to fail policies were already in place before Obama came into office

I do blame Obama for not holding folks accountable after the bailouts and the improvement of the economy

The blue dogs ruined any opportunity that the democrats had to pass bills that were favorable to most democrates
 
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I will try to explain this. I don't think Bill misspoke, but I feel he believes Obama has been a p*ssy, or he allowed the real rise of the GOP again, which isn't what a president is supposed to do.

Bill was telling the truth, but liberals pretend this is all some little gang of friends. Obama likely leaned on Bill, Hill, Rahm, Axelrod, Lawrence Summers, and the rest of the Clinton clan like a little fukking kid.....and still was a failure in making the party stronger.:sadcam:

And when you're a failure, with all your dad's toys, your dad will never respect you. Obama is a complete, utter....amazing failure. His only good outcomes have been the Iran deal, killing Osama, maybe ACA (that took 6 years into his term to finally start), and the economy or stock market didn't crash. The country, but in rebellion, is deeply right locally and nationally.

Yeah 'cuz God knows Bill Clinton destroyed the GOP. .. whatever.
 
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I didn't say he owed them shyt. Well, he may have felt bad in beating her. Anyway, nah, Obama was up the Clinton ass after the first year. He's an insecure boy genius. He doesn't really know how to do shyt but talk, but he's a great communicator. He's like a kid in the meeting rooms, happy people have to talk to him, and he gets the final say on whose idea he should use.

People like that need folks with already established experience, which is why you didn't get any fukking change. Obama is a cyborg and nothing more or less.

How would you know?

Have you ever run for political office? Just curious.

I'm not talking President either, just want to know what experience you have in getting anything done in real life off the internet.
 

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Yeah 'cuz God knows Bill Clinton destroyed the GOP. .. whatever.
What's your point? I'm simp lly relaying therelationship the Clinton's obviously have with Obama and why. Neither was a great president, but Bill actually deal with a right wing conspiracy himself, and still got a lot of shyt done....as a centrist. And yes, it was a vast right wing conspiracy, as it was the true rise of corporate, deregulated media, who pulled no punches on how salacious and devoid of facts they could be to attack the Clintons. It was also the rise of TV punditry, mostly serving the right.

Obama didn't get half of what the Clintons did. The main problem with Obama, if he was actually trying to be a Democrat, is he kept feeding dogs. He could've just gave them a small steak, but he gave them a bigger steak, thinking they would be content. If a mad dog already hates you, he's going to keep growling until you run out of food, unless you program him to do tricks for that food. Eventually he loves you, because you've established dominance, as well as taking care of a need. Obama had no patience for it.
 

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How would you know?

Have you ever run for political office? Just curious.

I'm not talking President either, just want to know what experience you have in getting anything done in real life off the internet.
And you? :troll:

This is the most basic of cape statements. Come on with more ad hominems, because you can't discuss facts.
 
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Obama should endorse Bernie and get it over with.

I think he's trying not to burn political bridges to ensure his legacy in case Hillary gets elected.

He owes the Clintons and he knows it.

He would have won without the Clinton support the first time around but not the second time in my opinion.
 
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I'm considering it in the future.

I just know that the politics of working with others is not as easy as it seems on the surface and find it interesting you think Pres. Obama is somehow insecure when in my opinion he exhibit the exact opposite.

I never thought he was a progressive so none of his policy positions felt like betrayals or surprises.

Bernie is definitely a progressive but hasn't exhibited he can get anything done aside from protest.

I like Sanders btw and couldn't vote Clinton if I were paid.
 

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I think he's trying not to burn political bridges to ensure his legacy in case Hillary gets elected.

He owes the Clintons and he knows it.

He would have won without the Clinton support the first time around but not the second time in my opinion.
Ensure his legacy....when he's already been president :russ:.

You attack me, unprovoked, and come up with this shyt??:mjlol: yYa'll would do anything to suck his dikk and it's blatantly obvious. Just do it without attacking people personally please. The facts are on our side. I didn't give a shyt if he endorsed Bernie or not, but it seemed like a logical extension of the things he ran on.

I know he owes the Clintons too, but I'm not trying to make it some noble shyt.
 

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I'm considering it in the future.

I just know that the politics of working with others is not as easy as it seems on the surface and find it interesting you think Pres. Obama is somehow insecure when in my opinion he exhibit the exact opposite.

I never thought he was a progressive so none of his policy positions felt like betrayals or surprises.

Bernie is definitely a progressive but hasn't exhibited he can get anything done aside from protest.

I like Sanders btw and couldn't vote Clinton if I were paid.
So you're going to personally attack me, because I attacked someone other than yourself....for my opinion?? I'm very sure I've forgotten more politics than you remember, and I'm not trying to bash everyone who says a bad thing about Sanders. It is what it is. My interpretation has no fukking thing to do with YOUR life.

And people have told me I should run one day. I'm probably not, unless I'm really wealthy and can self-fund most, because I'm going to be unfiltered. I don't care about getting small shyt done, rather than making a change statement. I don't need to win, just get the message out there. I have worked with many teams, and Obama's doing this consensus thing wrong. He lacks experience and confidence, and it's constantly exploited. Yet, many of you treat him like a woman, that must be protected.
 
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