Here's my Ancestry DNA results

[get these nets]

Absolutely. I use it as pride almost to the point of contention. Everyone wanna be black and melanated but don't wanna go to the shrine. People wanna be diet black so I use the numbers to rep the bloodline. I don't wanna be divisive but we need to be more exclusionary but now I'm getting waaaaaaay off topic.



I take upmost pride we (as Afrikans in Haiti, not as Haitians) we fought and killed for our freedom, human rights and Afrikaness.

I was making a different point.It's a bit more complex.
Africans fought,revolted, and killed slavers in every colony established by Europeans in this Western hemisphere.
The specific set of circumstances that lead to the start and ultimate success of the Haitian revolution is complicated, but it's tied to the results of your test.
The sugarcane plantation economy of Saint Domingue was more brutal than any slavery system in the Americas. The business model was to work the newly arrived African to death within a set amount of years, and just bring in another enslaved person to take his place.
At any given time, there was a huge number of people who had been born in Africa on the island. Strengthening and replenishing the different cultural markers that had formed.
When the last revolution started, and effectively eliminated the Euro..the Black population was genetically and culturally almost identical to the West African regions we were from. Difference being that we were an amalgamation of those people.

The country has been relatively isolated in the 200+ years since 1804. No large groups of newcomers, and the relative social distance between the Black majority and the mixed race minority. Voila !


*You know this already, just brought it up for those who aren't aware of the history.

 

[TheKongoEmpire]

Your percentages look Caribbean, are you?

Yes ma'am. Both my parents are from Gros Morne, Haiti. My maternal grandfather was from Port de Paix and my maternal grandmother was from Moulin. My paternal grandparents are from Gros Morne as well.

 

[Giselle]

Your percentages look Caribbean as well

 

[blockburna420]

Your percentages look Caribbean as well

This is the second page

 

[invalid]

Other sources report that the following Bantu people, the Luhya, Baganda, Nyarwanda, Rundi of Burindi, Kikuyu, and the Zulu all claim a southerly migration from Egypt. Moreover there are many groups of Bantu speakers from Tanzania, Mozambique, Congo, Zambia, Malawi, South Africa, who testify a southerly migration from Egypt. There are even groups of people from West Africa who migrated from Egypt into their present day location.
The Bantu in Ancient Egypt

This really doesn't make sense to me because genetic profiles of ancient Egyptians show an origin to the Great Lakes region. Which is why I find this bit interesting.

“…recent investigations in this part of Africa, particularly with regard to the native veins of iron and gold, tend in the opinion of some competent inquiries to show that East Central Africa, including the region of the great lakes, was an extremely ancient seat of a rudimentary civilisation, the seeds of which may have been carried whether by migration or contact of peoples, to remote parts of Europe and Asia.

It's more likely the African ancestors of the AE originated in the area around the Great Lakes and moved up the Nile and settled in the area around the Delta.

It wouldn't make sense for there to be a migration North, then a total reverse migration back South.

If there is any merit to these groups claims that they migrated from an ancient civilization, it's more likely it was from this trace civilization near the Great Lakes. I know groups in Uganda, like the Bunyoro and Baganda have many similarities to AE. Even their physical look is very close to details that you see in AE paintings. I think the similarities is due not to originating in AE, but to this other civilization around the Great Lakes from which even the Egyptians sprang forth.

The origin of homo sapiens - haplogroup A, is not too far from that area in present day Botswana. Occam's razor would suggest a branching out of human migration from that area.

 

[thekyuke]

Absolutely. Radioactive dating testing would be a good start. What other literature do you have to support your position? I'm not saying I don't believe you in just genuinely curious.

The identity of the first Cameroonians:
"Our knowledge of ancient human population structure in sub-Saharan Africa, particularly prior to the advent of food production, remains limited. Here we report genome-wide DNA data from four children—two of whom were buried approximately 8,000 years ago and two 3,000 years ago—from Shum Laka (Cameroon), one of the earliest known archaeological sites....However, the genome-wide ancestry profiles of all four individuals are most similar to those of present-day hunter-gatherers from western Central Africa, which implies that populations in western Cameroon today—as well as speakers of Bantu languages from across the continent—are not descended substantially from the population represented by these four people"
Nature (2020)

Iow, todays Cameroonians came from somewhere else. Where? Egypt, ofc.

There's a graph showing the mainly Great Lakes and Southern Bantu DNA of King Tut and fam. W African element was minor and Kushyte even less.

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I can't find a pic. Pls find one and paste it here. This is important ISHYT: we SHOULD know this but most still DON'T!

 

[TheKongoEmpire]

This is why I have no faith in these tests

These tests are scientific—it doesn't require faith.

 

[TheKongoEmpire]

The identity of the first Cameroonians:
"Our knowledge of ancient human population structure in sub-Saharan Africa, particularly prior to the advent of food production, remains limited. Here we report genome-wide DNA data from four children—two of whom were buried approximately 8,000 years ago and two 3,000 years ago—from Shum Laka (Cameroon), one of the earliest known archaeological sites....However, the genome-wide ancestry profiles of all four individuals are most similar to those of present-day hunter-gatherers from western Central Africa, which implies that populations in western Cameroon today—as well as speakers of Bantu languages from across the continent—are not descended substantially from the population represented by these four people"
Nature (2020)

Iow, todays Cameroonians came from somewhere else. Where? Egypt, ofc.

There's a graph showing the mainly Great Lakes and Southern Bantu DNA of King Tut and fam. W African element was minor and Kushyte even less.

Google Image Result for https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c3/12/8a/c3128aed6509d659f9d626a8aa44c8f3.jpg

I can't find a pic. Pls find one and paste it here. This is important ISHYT: we SHOULD know this but most still DON'T!

That pictures leads to a blog which weasels the bible into the convo. I'm good.
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Also, NEVER have I heard or read Hausas considered Afro Asiatic.

Also, how did you come to the conclusion that ancient Cameroonians are from Egypt. I think I missed something.

 

[DreadBrown]

These tests are scientific—it doesn't require faith.

Then the science is lazy, telling me Im 40% Nigerian means nothing.

Yoruba, Hausa, Igbo, Twi are all ‘Nigerian’ but are different ethnicities

 

[thekyuke]

That pictures leads to a blog which weasels the bible into the convo. I'm good.
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Also, NEVER have I heard or read Hausas considered Afro Asiatic.

Also, how did you come to the conclusion that ancient Cameroonians are from Egypt. I think I missed something.

That study was done by DNA tribes a couple of yrs ago! It DOESN'T matter who (mis)uses their findings cause facts are NEUTRAL.

 

[invalid]

That pictures leads to a blog which weasels the bible into the convo. I'm good.
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No that graph is legit. It was part of a study done by a genetic analysis site called DNA Tribes.

They studied the STR profiles of the New Kingdom Amarna Royals and the results showed that their STRs matched at their highest frequencies with populations around and south of the Great Lakes region.

Ancient Egyptians were a mixed group of people, for sure, but the corpus of their progenitors originated south and moved up the Nile.

On the other point, I'm not sold on Bantus originating in Egypt.

Haplogroup A originated on the border of Botswana. It's hard for me to conceptualize an out migration from that area to West Central Africa for there to be an inverse migration back into East and South Africa.

 

[Giselle]

This is the second page

Gullah Geechee ancestry?

 

[blockburna420]

Gullah Geechee ancestry?

No family spread through alabama and Florida

 

[the bossman]

I will waiting for your theory/ hypothesis. That said, I'm waiting for Kenya to reopen up. @Svali knows I gotta major thank for Luo women

Whos most open now during covid? Ghana, Kenya, or TZ? Want a spot to bounce to for a few weeks

 

[TheKongoEmpire]

Then the science is lazy, telling me Im 40% Nigerian means nothing.

Yoruba, Hausa, Igbo, Twi are all ‘Nigerian’ but are different ethnicities

Twi is the language the Akan people, Asante specifically.

Also there's another blog complied by a brother who really did his homework.

You mention the science is lazy, do you know the basics of said science? Are you verse in the human genome project?