He's not perfect, but where does Tariq Nasheed stand with you as a black voice in the media?

[KenyaDoll]

Black men (Men period) are the protectors and providers of the community. If we can't protect or provide for you, then your vulnerable to men of other races. I understand your concerns but if we are not stronger than you, then how can we protect you? If we are not wealthier than you then how can we provide for you? Aren't you tired of being strong and independent?

I'll will never be tired of being a self-sufficient person (that is a characteristic that should define all human beings). Also, I never want to be a weak person (not sorry).

Putting myself last (ONLY BECAUSE I WAS BORN WITH A VAGINA) will not create the utopian, communal society that you described above nor will it guarantee that any of the men you described will reach back to pull me up (especially given my experiences with "successful" black men and women in general). We all know that if black women are ignored while black men are the only ones helped and uplifted, we'll just end up with a bunch of men regurgitating the conservative rhetoric of "I did it, why can't they." We will end up with a bunch of men who want absolutely nothing to do with the women of their race.

I will not be a third, hell fourth, class citizen (even if you and others like you believe that I am one). I will NEVER allow myself to believe that I and my personal issues don't matter. I will NEVER believe that improving the lives of black girls and women can only happen AFTER everyone else is way better off. I will NEVER ignore my issues simply because I have a vagina.

You are welcome to work toward the society that you want to live in (where some people don't matter as much as others), and I will continue to work toward the society that I want to live in (where I help black woman and men).

I appreciate these discussions because it only makes me realize that I have a huge task at hand in regard to continuing to help ALL those in need. I never considered it my fight, but from this moment forward, I will work to ensure that other races and even my own (sadly) see the humanity in black women.

*Thinks to self* Ain't I a person

 

[killacal]

I'll will never be tired of being a self-sufficient person (that is a characteristic that should define all human beings). Also, I never want to be a weak person (not sorry).

Putting myself last (ONLY BECAUSE I WAS BORN WITH A VAGINA) will not create the utopian, communal society that you described above nor will it guarantee that any of the men you described will reach back to pull me up (especially given my experiences with "successful" black men and women in general). We all know that if black women are ignored while black men are the only ones helped and uplifted, we'll just end up with a bunch of men regurgitating the conservative rhetoric of "I did it, why can't they." We will end up with a bunch of men who want absolutely nothing to do with the women of their race.

I will not be a third, hell fourth, class citizen (even if you and others like you believe that I am one). I will NEVER allow myself to believe that I and my personal issues don't matter. I will NEVER believe that improving the lives of black girls and women can only happen AFTER everyone else is way better off. I will NEVER ignore my issues simply because I have a vagina.

You are welcome to work toward the society that you want to live in (where some people don't matter as much as others), and I will continue to work toward the society that I want to live in (where I help black woman and men).

I appreciate these discussions because it only makes me realize that I have a huge task at hand in regard to continuing to help ALL those in need. I never considered it my fight, but from this moment forward, I will work to ensure that other races and even my own (sadly) see the humanity in black women.

*Thinks to self* Ain't I a person

 

[KenyaDoll]

Prime example. You are the equivalent of a white, racist conservative (you're just painted chocolate and only attempt to perpetuate negative stereotypes about back women). Thank you!

 

[Ronnie Lott]

I'll will never be tired of being a self-sufficient person (that is a characteristic that should define all human beings). Also, I never want to be a weak person (not sorry).

Putting myself last (ONLY BECAUSE I WAS BORN WITH A VAGINA) will not create the utopian, communal society that you described above nor will it guarantee that any of the men you described will reach back to pull me up (especially given my experiences with "successful" black men and women in general). We all know that if black women are ignored while black men are the only ones helped and uplifted, we'll just end up with a bunch of men regurgitating the conservative rhetoric of "I did it, why can't they." We will end up with a bunch of men who want absolutely nothing to do with the women of their race.

I will not be a third, hell fourth, class citizen (even if you and others like you believe that I am one). I will NEVER allow myself to believe that I and my personal issues don't matter. I will NEVER believe that improving the lives of black girls and women can only happen AFTER everyone else is way better off. I will NEVER ignore my issues simply because I have a vagina.

You are welcome to work toward the society that you want to live in (where some people don't matter as much as others), and I will continue to work toward the society that I want to live in (where I help black woman and men).

I appreciate these discussions because it only makes me realize that I have a huge task at hand in regard to continuing to help ALL those in need. I never considered it my fight, but from this moment forward, I will work to ensure that other races and even my own (sadly) see the humanity in black women.

*Thinks to self* Ain't I a person

I hear what u are saying. But you completely skipped over and ignored @emoney entire post.

 

[killacal]

Prime example. You are the equivalent of a white, racist conservative (you're just painted chocolate and only attempt to perpetuate negative stereotypes about back women). Thank you!

So you calling me a c00n

 

[KenyaDoll]

I hear what u are saying. But you completely skipped over and ignored @emoney entire post.

I didn't. I answered him completely. He "cares" but at the end of the day, I don't matter just yet because I have a vagina. Heck, I may never matter in my lifetime. Maybe my granddaughters will matter after his utopian society is built and all of these successful black men give them a helping hand.

 

[Grizzly]

while I don't agree with everything dude says I think a person like Tariq is needed because he can reach the younger generation and he knows how to get things done....as far as his beef with people on twitter I just see a lot of people mad at Tariq that don't even know what theyre mad about

 

[KenyaDoll]

So you calling me a c00n

I said that you are the prime example of a black man who tries to perpetuate negative stereotypes of black women. Label that what you want.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

I didn't. I answered him completely. He "cares" but at the end of the day, I don't matter just yet because I have a vagina. Heck, I may never matter in my lifetime. Maybe my granddaughters will matter.

Can you answer this question for clarification purposes: I just wanamake sure I understand you. are you suggesting that @emoney is saying that "women don't matter, just because y'all have a vagina"

 

[killacal]

I said that you are the prime example of a black man who tries to perpetuate negative stereotypes of black women. Label that what you want.

Exquivalent of a white conserative painted black were your words Its ok to get angry and lose it once in awhile but I was just joking

 

[killacal]

Can you answer this question for clarification purposes: I just wanamake sure I understand you. are you suggesting that @emoney is saying that "women don't matter, just because y'all have a vagina"

Argue with feminist brehs, shes the only one talking about genitalia in this thread penis envy or nah

 

[KenyaDoll]

Can you answer this question for clarification purposes: I just wanamake sure I understand you. are you suggesting that @emoney is saying that "women don't matter, just because y'all have a vagina"

He was directly responding to my post about whether black women should be ignored until all black men are on the right path. In the post I asked why one group has to be neglected to uplift the other. To that, he gives me his reasoning related to why black women should be neglected to uplift black men (I mean those are the posts of mine that he quoted and was responding to). HIs answer is that they (men) are the protectors, they should have more money, and etc. Y'all should come first (to the potential detriment of another group) because you are men (people who have a penis) and because you are not women (people who have vaginas)

Justifying neglecting black women in order to uplift another group is saying we (black women) don't matter, yet (but we will some day in the future).

The questions/my posts that he responded to were asked after someone said that we should help black women after all black men are on the right path.

 

[KenyaDoll]

Exquivalent of a white conserative painted black were your words Its ok to get angry and lose it once in awhile but I was just joking

Angry (another negative stereotype) is not necessarily the adjective to describe me at this moment. Determined is a better one.

It's cool; it's all jokes.

 

[KenyaDoll]

Argue with feminist brehs, shes the only one talking about genitalia in this thread penis envy or nah

Nah, I like being a woman. Y'all the one's trying to justify neglecting one group because of the sexual organs they were born with (I used genitalia in order to break it down in the simplest way possible).

 

[Ronnie Lott]

He was directly responding to my post about whether black women should be ignored until all black men are on the right path. In the post I asked why one group has to be neglected to uplift the other. To that, he gives me his reasoning related to why black women should be neglected to uplift black men (I mean those are the posts of mine that he quoted and was responding to). HIs answer is that they (men) are the protectors, they should have more money, and etc. Y'all should come first (to the potential detriment of another group) because you are men (people who have a penis) and because you are not women (people who have vaginas)

Justifying neglecting black women in order to uplift another group is saying we (black women) don't matter, yet (but we will some day in the future).

The questions/my posts that he responded to were asked after someone said that we should help black women after all black men are on the right path.

From reading his posts or other posts, I did not read or interpret anyone saying that women should be ignored simply because they have vaginas. I think you are reaching on that one. Black women should not be neglected, but many agree that black men have to take most of the leadership responsibility in our community.

Males in General should be the protectors and the providers. Don't you agree?