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I mean, he's gonna go out there and throw some "we'd be working for Turner" shade at dudes without acknowledging that the shifts in the Monday Night Wars directly correlate with the Iron Man win and the beginning of the Austin Era.

Like Hunter Hearst Helmsley could have beaten Hogan and the nWo :heh:

He had a tank :myman:
 

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We're gonna go in a while different direction i think we can all agree.....HHH was never the one and was never viewed as austin and not really rock's peer

Hell no he's never been their peer, no matter how much he tries to retroactively inflate his legacy.

Rock and Austin had to left and HHH had the entire company to himself to carry and what happened? One of the darkest fukking periods in WWE history. shyt would have been a complete disaster if not for the piff that was happening on Smackdown.

The simple fact that HHH is still trying to play catch up to this day proves that.

It's "Rock & Austin" not "Rock, Austin, and HHH".....Dude is second tier status and needs to just accept that and move on.
 

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Stupid argument he made....

During the Monday night wars the guys he mentioned couldn't have been "The ONE" simply because Rock and Austin were by FAR the biggest best names on the planet at the time.

Once Rock and Austin left it was hard for anyone else to break through because some big nosed cocksucker stayed with his foot on everybodies neck so he could secure his spot.

I aint even a big Edge fan but he could have been a lot huger than he was if not for Hunter constantly sabotaging his runs. Same goes for Jericho, when Y2J was at his peak of popularity Hunter was sabotaging him backstage.

He was right about RVD though, he wasn't built to be THE top guy.

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no he couldn't
 

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no he couldn't

Nah, he could have, Fans were really into him during his heel runs and especially when he was feuding with Cena. Then he just magically ended up in bullshyt tag teams and mid card feuds. He specifically asked to go to Smackdown because he got tired of Hunter constantly trying to undercut him. They never put the resources behind Edge that they put behind Batista and Orton.
 

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HHH never got a pop as big as jerichos debut OR his title win over hhh. fukk that MSG return shyt, so overrated

Newsflash: EVERY OVATION at msg is bigger than the rest.

The biggest genuine pop Hunter got as a face was when he came back from his quad injury. It was sheer respect. Since then his face runs have been forced as fukk. Think about how many times we've seen him try and milk sympathy pops by acting like he was having his last match only to get tepid reactions at best.
 

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Nah, he could have, Fans were really into him during his heel runs and especially when he was feuding with Cena. Then he just magically ended up in bullshyt tag teams and mid card feuds. He specifically asked to go to Smackdown because he got tired of Hunter constantly trying to undercut him. They never put the resources behind Edge that they put behind Batista and Orton.
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He rode the lita scandal all the way to the top before that edge was ass.

hell John cena was a better heel then edge during that time.
 

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He rode the lita scandal all the way to the top before that edge was ass.

hell John cena was a better heel then edge during that time.

I agree with you that before that shyt he was ass, but regardless of how he got to the top once he got there he proved he beloved there with great matches and some really good promos. Regardless of how you might feel about him fans bought into him as a cool heel and started tuning in to see him on TV and paying to see him at PPVs.

Edge should have been the top heel on Raw for a long time but Hunter kept fukking his shyt up. Same thing happened to Orton, nikka was having an epic heel run then Hunter decides he should be a face and he hasn't recovered since (and it's the second time it's happened to Orton).

With that said Edge as a face was always a complete disaster IMO.
 

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Edge didn't ride a scandal. Edge took control of his character and pushed himself to the next level. Matt Hardy had the same opportunity, was easily the guy with more fan momentum entering the feud and he completely dropped the ball. Rated R was an entirely different character from the WWE created Edge. And while the love triangle sparked everything, Edge became an entirely different performer.

Then the first title win drew big numbers and they hotshotted it back to Cena right away.
 
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