HHH Spit the ETHER tonight

[R=G]

How is that possible. Austin sold more merch and ppvs?

• Survivor series 98; rock joins corporation.....austin sold the ppv and put over mankind.
• In your house rock bottom....rock as CHAMPION wasnt even the main event. Who was? Austin v taker.
• Rumble 99 was 100% about austin and vince. Rock does not main event..again..as champiom.
• Massacre....stone cold vs vince...rock does not main event...again...and has a draw vs foley.
• Mania they faced each other and austin went over and was on the poster. He was the draw.
• Backlash...same thing.

Dont say shyt about hhh revisionist hitory when you do the same thing.

I don't have to revise shyt. Meltzer has had that on the record for the last 14 years.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

I don't have to revise shyt. Meltzer has had that on the record for the last 14 years.

Yeah. And he consistently says austin is the biggest draw of all time and I listed facts about who was where on the card.

 

[R=G]

U can list what you want but Rock is shown as the biggest draw of 1999 and 2000. You keep forgetting that Smackdown was debuted under the Rock's label and Austin was the sidekick to how that all started. Rock's merchandise went through the roof after Backlash 99. He is personally responsible for the 50% increase in female viewers during the run. Rock was the guy who was so hot doing a comedy angle with Foley getting the highest ratings in history while they were pushing Austin against Cripple H.

 

[dem bath salts]

I'm a casual and I respect Hunter's grind. But in situations of popularity, I always go with who my mom knows. She knows Austin and Rock. When my bookworm ass mom knows you, you doing something major. hhh wasn't on that level

 

[Mic-Nificent]

Big a star no but important to the company yes. I view it like the Bulls and Heat in the East. The knicks, Pacers, and Nets are right with them to give them the competition they need. And then theres everyone else

Again most of us aren't saying he wasn't important to the company....Was he as important as Rock or Austin? fukk no

It's silly for you to argue this point when people who work for WWE wouldn't even argue this shyt. Like I said, Vince, Jim Ross, and even Foley recognize that it was Rock/Austin then everybody else during that period. It's not a knock against the other guys, it's just a testament to how fukking huge Rock and Austin were.

 

[Stack Money]

No feelings caught, just telling the truth. You can tell how you want but fact is: More people turned in after the pipe bomb then ever turned in for a HHH promo, the Yes chants are a single bigger victory then anything HHH has ever done. The PPV buys were horrible because the fans were tired of how the company kept fukking them and PPV buys havent been great since the early 2000s, almost ten years before Bryan ever showed up. I guess the tag belts are ugly because of the Rhode's Brothers too? Eve's whole career is ether, who gives a fukk. Only reason HHH wasnt over shadowed when he was "the one" was because he pulled backstage bullshyt all the time and buried people that should have reasonably been given the ball to run with. Kane, RVD, Jericho were all more over than HHH and all more deserving of the title at the time. Hunter wasnt getting "Oh Man I can't wait for this guy to lose" responses he was getting, "Get this long nosed fukk off my tv" responses . No one turned in to see HHH lose. No one turned in period for HHH. And no DX didnt have fans because of Hunter...that's ridiculous. HBK made the original DX, X-Pac and the New Age Outlaws made the second DX. Punk and Bryan both have seen cross over success (as minimal as it is) which is a shyt lot more than Hunter has ever done. Punk and Bryan are both more draws than Hunter in the new era too FACT. Youre delusional or HHH

That pipe bomb shyt was overrated as fukk, it wasn't even his best promo and smarks were more geeked up about it than casual wrestlin fans. Them yes chants are more over than Bryan himself is, these sheep ass crowds love to chant words and phrases anyone who gets them goin is automatically gonna get a reaction (includin HHH and Big Show who both currently >>> Bryan).

Again if HHH was in a position to pull rank then that makes him the guy and not whoever you claim is more over, and you can't make excuses about his wife cause most of the top dogs in the business got their pushes based on politics rather than bein the best wrestler/talker and they all in various ways did shyt backstage to make sure they stayed on top so you need to quit frontin like this shyt only goes for HHH.

That "bad heat" excuse won't work either when you a heel any negative response is good period, not to mention you ain't a mind reader and have no way of knowin why each person was booin him so miss me wit that shyt too. Punk and Bryan have zero crossover success at least HHH was in a few movies, and neither of those dudes you smarks love have ever been draws which has been proven already. Punk had over a year wit the belt yet Cena/AJ/everyone else got more attention than him and the numbers were down for most of his reign, and Bryan hasn't stepped up as the guy the PPV buys fell off since Cena went down a few months ago.

He never had the personality to get the crowd behind him like that as a face tho

He's a decent number 2, but not the man

He done had the crowd behind him since Evolution when they had to turn him cause he was gettin face pops, even as a heel he gets cheers from the crowd shyt muhfukkas still cheerin him now (but I forgot Orton not bein over is one of the myths nikkas run wit on TSC). He was able to show more personality wit his legend killer gimmick but wit this cold sociopath character he supposed to be more quiet and intense which some idiots mistake for not havin a personality.

they tryna tell us this is sandman




"i aint no sexy boy...i dont dance son"

I mean part of his character was jacked from Sandman but the other part was the tough talkin fighter that they eventually gave Taker durin his American Badass era which he pulled off even better than Austin did.

The Jericho - HHH worked shoot fued would be serious gold but we all know the outcome so whats the point

Watch this lead to a Jericho v HHH feud and match at Wrestlemania.

LIke I said earlier, HHH is the only guy alive who has TWO Wrestlemania main events that nobody fukking remembers because undercard matches were more anticipated, far superior, and thusly more memorable.

I don't know which ones you talkin bout but errbody remembers his Wrestlemania main event match wit Taker which not only was match of the night but one of the GOAT matches in history.

 

[dh86]

How is that possible. Austin sold more merch and ppvs?

• Survivor series 98; rock joins corporation.....austin sold the ppv and put over mankind.
• In your house rock bottom....rock as CHAMPION wasnt even the main event. Who was? Austin v taker.
• Rumble 99 was 100% about austin and vince. Rock does not main event..again..as champiom.
• Massacre....stone cold vs vince...rock does not main event...again...and has a draw vs foley.
• Mania they faced each other and austin went over and was on the poster. He was the draw.
• Backlash...same thing.

Dont say shyt about hhh revisionist hitory when you do the same thing.

Austin was a bigger draw overall, Rock had the biggest single year in history in 2000.

 

[dh86]

Working mainly with who? Come on you can say

Yet when it became clear Austin and Rock weren't coming back a couple of years later, WWE numbers turned into Enron until Cena came up. If HHH was on par as Austin-Rock, it surely shouldn't have been a free fall,no?

 

[dh86]

Big a star no but important to the company yes. I view it like the Bulls and Heat in the East. The knicks, Pacers, and Nets are right with them to give them the competition they need. And then theres everyone else

So B+? That's my entire point lol. You said something like HHH had "14 years to Savages 4" or something dumb like that, thanks for walking yourself back from that. If Jericho was in HHH spot in 2000, WWE doesn't make one less dollar.

 

[The G.O.D II]

Yet when it became clear Austin and Rock weren't coming back a couple of years later, WWE numbers turned into Enron until Cena came up. If HHH was on par as Austin-Rock, it surely shouldn't have been a free fall,no?

The business was in a down turn while austin and rock were there in 02. They just left at the right time. You try drawing working with Kane, Scott Steiner, anf Nash. Nice try

 

[The G.O.D II]

So B+? That's my entire point lol. You said something like HHH had "14 years to Savages 4" or something dumb like that, thanks for walking yourself back from that. If Jericho was in HHH spot in 2000, WWE doesn't make one less dollar.

Completely different argument. Jericho was always a midcard joke heel. He didn't have the believability of HHH. Keep posting idiotic shyt

 

[mrken12]

He said that line to get internet heat, and get the 'puters putin'

Plus the fact that he actually believes it. He's probably the most insecure person out there. He's considered a legend at this point and he still deems it necessary to shoot on people and put them down even after they've retired. And even when he was a face, he was still doing things like this so it's not even about being a heel.

 

[Mic-Nificent]

The business was in a down turn while austin and rock were there in 02. They just left at the right time. You try drawing working with Kane, Scott Steiner, and Nash. Nice try

Hunter should have been able to draw with Steiner initially. Before he got exposed as a broken down shell of himself Steiner was considered a big pick up for WWE. During his WCW run Steiner had built up a pretty solid fanbase.

People also overlook that another big problem with The Dark age (that's what we calling HHH's time on top now) Raw had a ton of bullshyt angles, particularly in the main event.

Anybody remember that bullshyt bodybuilding competition with Steiner? The Katie Vick Angle? The racist Booker T feud?

and beyond just the numbers from a pure quality standpoint Raw was damn near unwatchable while Smackdown had one it's strongest periods at the time.

 

[Mic-Nificent]

Plus the fact that he actually believes it. He's probably the most insecure person out there. He's considered a legend at this point and he still deems it necessary to shoot on people and put them down even after they've retired. And even when he was a face, he was still doing things like this so it's not even about being a heel.

He says this type of shyt in TV and radio interviews too.

 

[The G.O.D II]

Hunter should have been able to draw with Steiner initially. Before he got exposed as a broken down shell of himself Steiner was considered a big pick up for WWE. During his WCW run Steiner had built up a pretty solid fanbase.

People also overlook that another big problem with The Dark age (that's what we calling HHH's time on top now) Raw had a ton of bullshyt angles, particularly in the main event.

Anybody remember that bullshyt bodybuilding competition with Steiner? The Katie Vick Angle? The racist Booker T feud?

and beyond just the numbers from a pure quality standpoint Raw was damn near unwatchable while Smackdown had one it's strongest periods at the time.

Why when Steiner couldn't draw while in WCW when he was on top and coming out every night going into business for himself? Steiner was washed by then and not the answer.