Highly Educated, Unemployed and Tumbling Down the Ladder

[NZA]

I find it strange that most people I know with an MBA...pursue it without any real job experience right out of college...

So they pay a ton to go to a 4 year university...either go right into getting an MBA or can't find a job and say "I will get my MBA"...and run up even more debt

that used to work. it's an old behavior, but today's economy doesnt support it anymore.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

Other people aren't gonna be able to provide you with a job forever. All of the jobs these people had were easily replaceable. Labor is a market at the end of the day. It seems that in 2014 and going forward you simply wont be an affordable employee past age 50.

The only way to win is to own in capitalism.

Higher Learning the eternal tug of war with itself

"Stupid fukker got a degree in entrepreneurship "
"You can't work for anyone, you have to own."
"If you don't go to college, you're fukked."

We just can't win out here.

 

[the cac mamba]

I didn't even know that was a thing.

its a fukkin paradox

 

[ExodusNirvana]

I didn't even know that was a thing.

I can't even fathom a job that one would be able to get with a MA in Entrepreneurship. Like...why?? Why is it even a major for a graduate level program??

Especially if it was an MBA....he could have gotten a general MBA and gotten much better job prospects.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

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I truly do not know anybody who thinks they are owed a job after graduation. They work hard, get internships, and still can't get jobs because people just don't wanna hire or they want X amount of experience which is bs. You're saying they don't wanna work and bust their ass to get a foot in somewhere, companies aren't letting people even put a toe in

I agree. I think there are a lot of annoying things about millennials (I'm sort of halfway between gen X and a millennial) but I do think that they catch too much flack for not working hard. A lot of them definitely know what hard work is about, but it's like you're saying, companies aren't letting people even get halfway in the door. I got very very lucky. I got a pretty much useless degree in philosophy. Now, I found out a cool way to spin it for job interviews, but I lucked out and wasn't been asked about my education.

I took a few years off school to work in the music business, then I went back and finished. I got lucky as fukk and got a job in web design/marketing within 2 weeks after I graduated college. I found recently from my boss that the ONLY reason i got hired was because my references said I worked hard.

They didn't care about what I knew in this field, nor my education. Now that I have a "career" type of job, the fact that I have a philosophy degree hopefully won't cripple me like I thought it would, because I can move this job experience into a lot of areas.

But I got very lucky, and my decision to take time off school actually helped. Most people I know that went straight from high school and blew through college in 4 years are serving or living at home with their parents. It's tough out there. they say there are more jobs, but they're all low paying jobs.

 

[Richard Wright]

Higher Learning the eternal tug of war with itself

"Stupid fukker got a degree in entrepreneurship "
"You can't work for anyone, you have to own."
"If you don't go to college, you're fukked."

We just can't win out here.

Yes we can. The only way to win is to own. When you work for someone else you make someone else's dream come true. My american dream is selling a company off or taking one to IPO. There is literally no job I will be satisfied with. Look at how much someone like Baby or Dr Dre makes - everything besides what the owner gets is simply an expense. I dont want to be someone else's expense holding my dikk at 50 or 60. Im 20 now, and I think by the time im 40 40 year olds just wont be employable.

There is a big difference between going to college and making the best of the experience.

I go to a large state school and the difference in opportunity between the super senior psych major with a 2.9 and the computer engineer with a 3.5 is enormous. Like one nikka will come out making 80k while his roommate is unemployed.

Generally, masters degrees(besides top MBA) are a waste of time to me. Any field in which a masters would increase employability has a bachelors degree that can stand alone. Masters in entrepreneurship? What skills does that add?

There are two major events that have occured which changed labor forever: adding women to the workforce and the rise of outsourcing. Animals have claws and teeth, we have politics and economics.

 

[NZA]

the entrepreneur guy should be a teacher. most likely, he has taken a ton of business administration classes. with a masters degree, he could teach any 100-200 level class or at least assist a professor.

 

[duckbutta]

This. Becoming a professional student is a bad habit to break....get experience then go back for your MBA when you have a better idea of what you want to do.

I would venture to say that unless a company is paying for your MBA...or the position outright says "you must have an MBA"...I would not get one...

One thing that people who get MBA's don't ever consider is the fact that once they have one...they are pricing themselves right out of the majority of the job market for damn near any industry...

I work at a fortune 100 company...and unless it is a director level position or above...if they see MBA on your resume...forget it...get's tossed in the trash...and the reasoning behind it is "This person is going to want 150k cause they got an MBA...this person is only going to work at this position for x amount of months and then they will want to move up because they got an MBA"....

Last year, HR straight up denied me hiring two virtualization engineers for no other reason that they had MBA's...They were like "Nah find someone who will work at this job for at least 3 years...not someone who will work at this job for 6 months and then try to move into a management job...because they got an MBA"...

And no...it's not just my companies HR department that thinks this way...I've never worked at a place where an HR department didn't think like that

 

[Raava]

I can't even fathom a job that one would be able to get with a MA in Entrepreneurship. Like...why?? Why is it even a major for a graduate level program??

Especially if it was an MBA....he could have gotten a general MBA and gotten much better job prospects.

To get money out of people. There are plenty of degree programs that shouldn't even be offered, but still go on because students are paying for them.

It didn't even seem like he had a business idea, or maybe I am just reading too far ahead. A masters in Entrepreneurship, yet all he has been doing and is still trying to do is work for other people I feel for him still. Just a lot of bad decision making.

 

[Dillah810]

I dunno, I guess I'm the only one who thinks a couple of bad decisions shouldn't financially doom anyone for the foreseeable future.

look, I'm not gonna pretend that I have a deep understanding of economics, but my gut feeling tells me there's something wrong with the current economy when a black farmer in the 1940's with no education beyond middle school can go to work for GM and lift his family of a wife and 5 kids into the middle class and in 2014 a person with a MBA in ANYTHING can barely support himself.

 

[Blackking]

I support four kids.


I have no sympathy for people without kids.

None at all.... When I didn't have kids in my early 20's (I'm almost 30) ... Life was &


Even with loans and bills.......if you don't have kids I'm not sure what The fukk is the issue. Without kids i just fukked hoes, did random shyt and did other random shyt... then occasionally I would try to make career moves. Life wasn't Easy but it's not hard without kids.



Of course , now with kids, shyt is more expensive, but it's more rewarding....but there are people i work with w/o kids.... the cost of my kids > their years pay, so i just have side hustles...








and this fakkit in the OP got a degree in Entrepreneurship !!!!!!!! - Then is complaining about not having a job

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

I can't even fathom a job that one would be able to get with a MA in Entrepreneurship. Like...why?? Why is it even a major for a graduate level program??

Especially if it was an MBA....he could have gotten a general MBA and gotten much better job prospects.

These type of majors exist to take money from misguided youths. People going to college without any plan are doomed to get taken advantage of.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

I dunno, I guess I'm the only one who thinks a couple of bad decisions shouldn't financially doom anyone for the foreseeable future.

look, I'm not gonna pretend that I have a deep understanding of economics, but my gut feeling tells me there's something wrong when a black farmer in the 1940's with no education beyond middle school can go to work for GM and lift his family of a wife and 5 kids into the middle class and in 2014 a person with a MBA in ANYTHING can barely support himself.

You're right breh it shouldn't but that's the state of affairs. It's fukked up.

That's another reason I feel some kind of way having a kid because I don't want to have to tell my son or daughter "Follow your dreams" when really that's bullshyt and it's really "Choose something that is in demand that you think you can do". Because my generation was told "You can do anything you want" or "Be anything you want" when that's not really true.

 

[88m3]

I swear some people don't even know which way to pull their bootstraps...

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Yes we can. The only way to win is to own. When you work for someone else you make someone else's dream come true. My american dream is selling a company off or taking one to IPO. There is literally no job I will be satisfied with. Look at how much someone like Baby or Dr Dre makes - everything besides what the owner gets is simply an expense. I dont want to be someone else's expense holding my dikk at 50 or 60. Im 20 now, and I think by the time im 40 40 year olds just wont be employable.

There is a big difference between going to college and making the best of the experience.

I go to a large state school and the difference in opportunity between the super senior psych major with a 2.9 and the computer engineer with a 3.5 is enormous. Like one nikka will come out making 80k while his roommate is unemployed.

Generally, masters degrees(besides top MBA) are a waste of time to me. Any field in which a masters would increase employability has a bachelors degree that can stand alone. Masters in entrepreneurship? What skills does that add?

There are two major events that have occured which changed labor forever: adding women to the workforce and the rise of outsourcing. Animals have claws and teeth, we have politics and economics.

Id rather make someone elses dreams come true for a six figure salary than slave away at a juice stand I "own"

The goal is to accumulate wealth... you dont have to be a business owner to do that.

I agree with the rest of your post though.