Hillary Clinton’s Poll Numbers are in Absolute Free Fall

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Honestly if black people are the reason that Bernie Sanders doesn't get elected :snoop:
Darth Humanist said:
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Btw can you ask one of them how Clinton's policies would benefit AA's more than Sanders?
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It's a fukking Hilary Stanbase, even some of the black posters.
I can't though, you need a edu college email or for pay email to join, and I signed up with a for pay email i'm using a free trial for the other day but they generally take months, sometimes a year to approve people.
There are a ton of posters on there though.
 
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Swagnificent said:
Real talk. If a nikka named Barack Hussein Obama can get elected president, anyone can.
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Obama had powerful interests backing him, spent the most money and had one of the best marketing campaigns in recent history. More often than not the person who spends the most money wins. Obama's victory wasn't as unlikely as people think when you look at his campaign in the proper context.

I think Sanders' possibilities of getting elected are considerably lower because of his lack of financial backing compared to other candidates.
 
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UltraKombo said:
Trump leading the polls but there's no way he's elected in the GOP primary for a variety of reasons.

Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz might make it but their credibility is pretty bad. JEB is the only one that has a predictable problem which can be overcome with the right PR.
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Trump is real. If you're still waiting for him to fade away, it's not going to happen and that becomes more apparent day by day. You're still buying the conventional wisdom that an establishment candidate has to be the primary winner. That shyt is out the window now. With the internet and social media, people are not dependent on the television to get their message out, nor the blessing of party power brokers. The GOP establishment has been trying to stop Trump and Cruz since day one with no success.

It's probably going to be Trump or Cruz. It definitely will not be Jeb....zero chance. If somehow an establishment candidate turns the tide and comes out, it will be Rubio. Jeb is a cadaver.
 
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A Real Human Bean said:
Obama had powerful interests backing him, spent the most money and had one of the best marketing campaigns in recent history. More often than not the person who spends the most money wins. Obama's victory wasn't as unlikely as people think when you look at his campaign in the proper context.

I think Sanders' possibilities of getting elected are considerably lower because of his lack of financial backing compared to other candidates.
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Yup. People act like Obama hadn't been courting Wall Street pretty much since his 04 DNC keynote speech, meeting with CEOs and getting entrenched with the Dem establishment. His largest campaign donor was Goldman Sachs and he had some really powerful donors and Dems like Ted Kennedy, Bill Richardson, etc. choose him over Clinton.
 
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Yup. People act like Obama hadn't been courting Wall Street pretty much since his 04 DNC keynote speech, meeting with CEOs and getting entrenched with the Dem establishment. His largest campaign donor was Goldman Sachs and he had some really powerful donors and Dems like Ted Kennedy, Bill Richardson, etc. choose him over Clinton.
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Obama didn't receive any significant backing UNTIL he won some primaries and caucuses. No one really took is candidacy that seriously until his surprise Iowa win. Before that, most thought the race was between Clinton and Edwards. Remember? At least in the beginning, his campaign was a grassroots efforts.
 
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Ms. Elaine said:
Obama didn't receive any significant backing UNTIL he won some primaries and caucuses. No one really took is candidacy that seriously until his surprise Iowa win. Before that, most thought the race was between Clinton and Edwards. Remember? At least in the beginning, his campaign was a grassroots efforts.
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Nope. He spent 04-07 telling CEOs and bankers he was running for President and asking for support. He hit the ground running with Wall Street cash.

He got a lot of small donations from inspired voters as well, but this narrative that his campaign was "grassroots" and he got his money from little old ladies donating from their piggy banks is false. It was some great marketing though.

Obama vs. Clinton was never grassroots vs. establishment. It was newer establishment vs. older establishment. Sanders vs. Clinton really would be grassoots vs. establishment.
 
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Nope. He spent 04-07 telling CEOs and bankers he was running for President and asking for support. He hit the ground running with Wall Street cash.

He got a lot of all donations as well, but this narrative that his campaign was "grassroots" and he got his money from little old ladies donating from their piggy banks is false. It was some great marketing though.
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This is not true. I've actually read most of books that covered the '08 election. None of these candidates are as calculating as you think they are.

Obama ran by chance, at the urging of Harry Reid. I'm not saying he didn't have political aspirations but I don't he thought that election was his time.
 
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