Hillary Clinton’s Poll Numbers are in Absolute Free Fall
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NBC News is trying to stay she has a huge lead over Bernie.
"general election polls don't matter"
Hillary destroying Bernie among minorities. women, age 50+ in New NBC/WSJ Poll
This isn't the worst thread they've had for Bernie/Hillary but you should get the picture.
"They don't predict properly, too far off, Bernie isn't tested"Why don't they matter?
also what's your username of there?
Like I said.
Still not a member, just got to free trial email like 5 days ago and signed up, got the confirmation email, and now I need to wait to be approved to do anything at all which could take from a month to a year.
But my username is based around Jay Z.
you did say that my badSeems like excuses. Obviously they are subject to change but they do give some sort of indication. And you would expect Sanders numbers to increase if anything, as his name recognition improves.
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Afford? are black americans poor with the vote tooI'm wondering do you guys actually buy this argument that the reason why Bernie's support is "lower among minorities" is because black people and co. can't "afford to vote for him" like young white males can?
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We're still waiting for our voting reparations brehAfford? are black americans poor with the vote too
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I'm wondering do you guys actually buy this argument that the reason why Bernie's support is "lower among minorities" is because black people and co. can't "afford to vote for him" like young white males can?
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I do not buy it one bit. Some minorities may think that, but I would argue it is seriously misguided.
For one, the issues that Sanders is pressing hard are the exact same issues that disproportionately impact minorities. To have a candidate already in the race, bringing light to these issues, and saying you won't support him because he "can't win?"
If you think he can't win it is because YOU WON'T SUPPORT HIM! 
More broadly, going well beyond Sanders, I do not respect lesser evilism as a political strategy. So for someone to argue that Hillary would be taken more seriously in an election and stands a better chance of beating a Republican (an argument for which the evidence is very dubious given polling showing Sanders performing better vs. Republicans) would mostly be irrelevant to me. What is our goal, is it freedom or simply to get a lash or two fewer? All of this voting should be a means to an end. I grow tired of people's posturing and mental gymnastics to try to justify staying firmly within the confines of the (establishment) Democratic tent. I do not fear Republicans or the right and if the working-class and oppressed groups generally got their shyt together, we wouldn't as a whole either. Like Prodigy said, "A nikka worst enemy is fear." Freedom requires some risk-taking and if we can't even pull a lever a certain way out of fear of some right-wing cowards winning an election then we don't really want it.
Unless it's a choice between outright fascism and bourgeois democracy, lesser evilism is
. People keep falling for the okie doke. "This is a pivotal election, we can't let the Republicans win! VOTE DEMOCRAT, it's your only hope! 
" My nikka, Bush had two terms. We lived through it. Trump could be worse than Bush 
but all that means is we (including me and you all in your personal lives 
) need to accelerate getting our shyt together. Get shyt on under a Republican, get shyt on under a Democrat. I'll take my chances supporting an independent working-class alternative, thank you very much. (I will vote for Sanders if he is the nominee, otherwise I will be voting third-party)
"I'm going to go out of a limb and say your white, male and Sight. IE someone who's life won't be adversely effected if a Republican is elected president."I do not buy it one bit. Some minorities may think that, but I would argue it is seriously misguided.
For one, the issues that Sanders is pressing hard are the exact same issues that disproportionately impact minorities. To have a candidate already in the race, bringing light to these issues, and saying you won't support him because he "can't win?"
More broadly, going well beyond Sanders, I do not respect lesser evilism as a political strategy. So for someone to argue that Hillary would be taken more seriously in an election and stands a better chance of beating a Republican (an argument for which the evidence is very dubious given polling showing Sanders performing better vs. Republicans) would mostly be irrelevant to me. What is our goal, is it freedom or simply to get a lash or two fewer? All of this voting should be a means to an end. I grow tired of people's posturing and mental gymnastics to try to justify staying firmly within the confines of the (establishment) Democratic tent. I do not fear Republicans or the right and if the working-class and oppressed groups generally got their shyt together, we wouldn't as a whole either. Like Prodigy said, "A nikka worst enemy is fear." Freedom requires some risk-taking and if we can't even pull a lever a certain way out of fear of some right-wing cowards winning an election then we don't really want it.
Unless it's a choice between outright fascism and bourgeois democracy, lesser evilism is
Get shyt on under a Republican, get shyt on under a Democrat. I'll take my chances supporting an independent working-class alternative, thank you very much. (I will vote for Sanders if he is the nominee, otherwise I will be voting third-party)
(keep in mind that the people who are commonly saying these things are white men/women who attack Bernie supporters for the way they claim they feel about race/black voters and say that they are patronizing them while the do the same thing but for Hilary)
Honestly I used to be an, if Bernie isn't elected I'll vote Hillary guy even though the thought of doing that depressed me so much, no enthusiasm/anticipation for it at all.
But after seeing how pathetic she was trying to argue against Bernie on health care tonight I don't even know if I can anymore.
Honestly that was disgusting.
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and lloyd banks will drop a platinum albumBernies gonna be the next president
fukk Hillary
and lloyd banks will drop a platinum album
@SpacelySprockets this dude Israel or whatever his name was really obsessed with g unit
I remember when he said on Ktt Jim jones > banks
I've struggled with self esteem issues pretty much my whole life. But as I get older and when I start to get to know a guy or am seeing a guy, I notice it gets worse. And it's pretty obvious that I'm insecure about my looks and body to the point I feel it's a huge turn off. For example, I've been sleeping with this guy for the past month or so and last night we got drunk as fukk and today he joked with me that he should get me drunk more often because I actually look him in the eyes, smile and let him be affectionate towards me. He said I don't "worry as much" Also when I put my appearance down he clearly doesn't like it and says to me "stop! Stop thinking you're ugly cause you're not. Tell yourself you're beautiful, awesome, cool as fukk etc etc" but it's kinda hard to even take that serious from him when we're out and I notice him check out mad other chicks.. Makes me feel like shyt and not good enough.@SpacelySprockets this dude Israel or whatever his name was really obsessed with g unit
I remember when he said on Ktt Jim jones > banks
Thing is, I know I'm not completely hideous. I get guys hitting on me all the time and have dated and hooked up with guys way outside my league. The guy I've been fukkkng around with is like 6'4 and looks like a fukking model. But when we go out, like I said he checks out other girls a lot and every girl checks him out and I know they must think "wtf is he doing with HER!"
I also struggle with bad social anxiety and I worry a lot about my hair, teeth, complexion, wrinkles, how my boobs look (I feel like they look saggy at 25) and the number one thing.. My nose. It's huge. I got picked on all through middle school about it. all these things that just add up to make me feel ugly. Plus the fact that the last two guys I genuinely had feelings for , one current just wanted to "hook up" (but gives me mixed signals) makes me feel unworthy and undateable. Like do I really suck that bad? Damn.
I wish I had confidence. I want to feel better about my self. I know guys like confident chicks. I know my body language reeks of low esteem and insecurity. And know if I had more confidence Id try more things, dress nicer, dress more feminine, just overall be happier and a better person to be around.
I need help and advice KTT fam. I want to feel worthy and semi-comfortable in my own skin.
But that's only if you buy into the stupid narrative that he doesn't have a chance to win. He has a better chance than Hillary. Her negatives are high. People fukkin hate her. She's the one who is the risk.
Bernie kills her in every poll vs. the republicans.
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