Hip Hop Album Sales: Chris Brown debuts at #2

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:laff: this excuse again

let me guess, they still buy 8-tracks :dead:
Well part of that is true man I don't know why you're acting like it's not. If you have an older fan base, they are more likely to buy albums than kids who download everything. But the biggest reason she did those numbers is like I said before--she's an OG. She went on late night shows, the views and good morning america to promote this. She hadn't been on a late show in like two decades. It's no surprise that someone who had her first hit in like 1960-something and has dropped a number 1 album in every decade since then would pull these kind of numbers with that type of promoting....that is generations of fans. Maybe, if cats started making projects people felt they HAD to have again....
 

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Well part of that is true man I don't know why you're acting like it's not. If you have an older fan base, they are more likely to buy albums than kids who download everything. But the biggest reason she did those numbers is like I said before--she's an OG. She went on late night shows, the views and good morning america to promote this. She hadn't been on a late show in like two decades. It's no surprise that someone who had her first hit in like 1960-something and has dropped a number 1 album in every decade since then would pull these kind of numbers with that type of promoting....that is generations of fans. Maybe, if cats started making projects people felt they HAD to have again....

Her appearance on Jimmy Fallon was her first appearance on a late night show in 50 years.

If you think they're not on the net downloading records, they're not exactly at Best Buy fiending out buying albums either. If you're that old, you probably have someone else buy it for you and they DO know the ins and outs of buying/downloading music. Look at the iTunes album charts right now. Somebody's downloading all those records. They just support with their $$ which we don't do. Her fans let her drop whenever she pleases, meanwhile Kendrick Lamar gotta drop a song just to keep thirsty ass ADD having motherfukkers from questioning where his buzz went.
 

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Her appearance on Jimmy Fallon was her first appearance on a late night show in 50 years.

If you think they're not on the net downloading records, they're not exactly at Best Buy fiending out buying albums either. If you're that old, you probably have someone else buy it for you and they DO know the ins and outs of buying/downloading music. Look at the iTunes album charts right now. Somebody's downloading all those records. They just support with their $$ which we don't do. Her fans let her drop whenever she pleases, meanwhile Kendrick Lamar gotta drop a song just to keep thirsty ass ADD having motherfukkers from questioning where his buzz went.
Yeah, but that's because her status is solidified and hip hop has always been a competitive sport. All the legends dropped frequently in the beginning. Everyone does...that's just hip hop. If you're not dropping it's because you're milking an album, and you're present on other shyt too. Kendrick doesn't feature much, and when he does....he's more miss than hit to be honest.

People buy singles, there's a difference between buying a single and wanting an album. I also don't get this "we" don't thing. No artist is selling that much. Only straight up superstars are. Hip Hop sales compared to other genres (aside from maybe country) are not all that far off and are probably better. If I'm getting my mother a new (not an old album she doesn't have but a new release) album, I go buy it...I don't download it. That doesn't make sense as a gift. Even then, you're appealing to that older fanbase. The younger person actually making the purchase is just a conduit. I guess I always assumed everyone was like that :manny:
 

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Her appearance on Jimmy Fallon was her first appearance on a late night show in 50 years.

If you think they're not on the net downloading records, they're not exactly at Best Buy fiending out buying albums either. If you're that old, you probably have someone else buy it for you and they DO know the ins and outs of buying/downloading music. Look at the iTunes album charts right now. Somebody's downloading all those records. They just support with their $$ which we don't do. Her fans let her drop whenever she pleases, meanwhile Kendrick Lamar gotta drop a song just to keep thirsty ass ADD having motherfukkers from questioning where his buzz went.
It's really THIS simple. Always has been, And always will be... Dudes LOVE to act like there's some more shyt to it lol... Record labels don't care WHATS at the forefront of music.. They care what the consumer buys. This is a FACT.
 

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LOL @ us applauding Jezzy for selling barely 200k. This is the era we live in folks. LOL @ Ms "Fancy" all over radio, TV, all that marketing and she can barely go Gold. This is why Adele's numbers are mindblowing. She actually WENT DIAMOND in this era. That means she could of very well went Double Diamond a decade ago.

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Compare apples and oranges brehs. Now I know why I don't really fukk with forums like that. Yall just ramble about a bunch of dumb shyt. This "Rapmastermind" dude acting like Barbra Streisand is dropping her first album in 20 yrs or some shyt when she actually released a album in 09. Chris Brown did good numbers and will go gold or plat. You know how many legends came back and had good album sales. Maxwell took a 8yr haitus then came out with BLACKsummers'night in 09 and went plat, Whitney Houston went plat in 09 (yeah before her death) with the I Look to You album after taking a 7 yr hiatus. Do yall really wanna get into a album sales discussion?. shyt is different now. No genres are selling. This aint the late 90s/early 2000s anymore. You know how many albums went plat or gold in 2013 and 2014? Not many! You dudes always try to find a way to pop shyt about HipHop/R&B sales. R&B doesn't even get half the promo that those pop albums get. Katy Perry/ Jessie J getting played on Hot 97, Power and getting played on 106 and park. Do your fukking research before you start comparing shyt. :snoop:

Edit: And dont say "we" dont buy albums because I buy cds on the regular (new and old). I even showed my proof pics in that other thread. You mean that "You" dont buy albums. Adele is an exception. How many other recent albums went diamond? With that being said, focus on the music and not the sales.
 
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Relevance means what it always means--are you relevant to popular culture and you're probably helping to shape it in some way. Barbara is not. She is an OG that to a demographic that is not on spotify and is not downloading albums. Any legend who properly promotes their albums will sell something like that because (a) their audience is older and buys albums or (b) their children or grandchildren will buy it for them.

The lesson from that is that if you make timeless music and develop a strong and loyal fanbase rather than something that rides a wave--you will have longevity and will be able to tour forever. Your music will be passed down to the next generation and so forth.

Bar, I see what you are trying to say but it's like you are only making it like "THE YOUTH" defines who listens to music and that's not the case. Again Is Barbara relevant to pop culture? Well she's #1 so I think that proves her relevance. It may not be the "young" 'demo but I'm sure she does have young fans. There are plenty of Legendary artist who can't get a #1 album right now.
 

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Bar, I see what you are trying to say but it's like you are only making it like "THE YOUTH" defines who listens to music and that's not the case. Again Is Barbara relevant to pop culture? Well she's #1 so I think that proves her relevance. It may not be the "young" 'demo but I'm sure she does have young fans. There are plenty of Legendary artist who can't get a #1 album right now.
The youth always define popular culture when we're talking about music. It is who it is marketed towards--from advertisements to festivals, etc. It's why when Fox News was killing MSNBC in rating, Keith Olbermann always pointed out that the most important demographic 18 to 30ish was watching his show more than O'Reily's. It's why you always have the stereotype of the parent trying to be down. I'm not saying that there aren't markets that target other demographics. But generally speaking, teenagers and young adults define what is "in." It's why old heads started complaining when that snap shyt took over--the youth was not listening to them and thus they were making less money and weren't being heard, etc. That's just how I see it--the artist can be older--but a sizeable portion of their audience will be young :manny:.
 
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As for Chris numbers, they are lukewarm but considering all the bad press he has had since RiRi and all his legal issues, The number's aren't that bad but Chris has fallen really far. Since he hit RiRi in 2009, he has Yet to go Platinum yet this is his 4th album since that. Before that he had 2 Multi-Platinum albums and was headed to being basically in Usher's lane. Had the RiRi incident didn't happen, Chris could of been headed to 4x Platinum maybe even 5x Platinum. It's clear that incident is still affecting his sales. Same with KanYe and the Taylor Swift, you can litterally trace his sales dropping off from that point:


Chris Brown - 2x Platinum
Exclusive - 2x Platinum
Graffti - 350k
F.A.M.E. 750k
Fortune 500k
X - Will Tap out at 350-400k
 

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As for Chris numbers, they are lukewarm but considering all the bad press he has had since RiRi and all his legal issues, The number's aren't that bad but Chris has fallen really far. Since he hit RiRi in 2009, he has Yet to go Platinum yet this is his 4th album since that. Before that he had 2 Multi-Platinum albums and was headed to being basically in Usher's lane. Had the RiRi incident didn't happen, Chris could of been headed to 4x Platinum maybe even 5x Platinum. It's clear that incident is still affecting his sales. Same with KanYe and the Taylor Swift, you can litterally trace his sales dropping off from that point:


Chris Brown - 2x Platinum
Exclusive - 2x Platinum
Graffti - 350k
F.A.M.E. 750k
Fortune 500k
X - Will Tap out at 350-400k
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Jhene Aiko had the best album on the list and I ain't saying that because she fine:lolbron:
Her only selling 90,000 units shows that having good content doesn't always equal sells
You need a gimmick or like Mr. Brown, an interesting life outside of music
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