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There has been self-depreciating/anti-consumption rap long before Macklemore. And the insincere/low key ignorant way dude rapped about homosexuality is nothing to be celebrated. Macklemore is for people who want to identify with the edginess of rap without actually confronting the social context/realities behind its aggression and the history of hip hop as a culture and artform. Dude is a terrible rapper, and on top of that has no respect for the culture.No but his risk taking in subject matter and execution is something that should be respected and built upon but the more talented...
Every single album nominated for best rap album including Macklemore talked about different subjects (J. Cole got snubbed though). But every single one of them accept what every the hell Kanye was doing on Yeezus had better rapping than him. Jay-Z tried for about 6 verses on that entire MCHG (which is only a bit higher than a 7 to me), and was still a better rapper than Macklemore. That says a lot about the caliber of emcee that just won best rap album. I don't get this whole "up your lyrical content." He didn't rap about anything other rappers have not, but he had this corny commercial singles and that's why he blew. There is something to be said about crafting a message that appeals to the masses, but that is different from creating records strictly to placate the masses and that has no heart in it. There are leagues between Dear Mama and Same Loveup your subject matter...
I think that's what I'm getting at more than anything...
SUBJECT MATTER
Id rather people not rap at all if they are only going to bring more fakeness to the game, and on top of that not even make good music. "Thrift Shop" makes me cringe.I'd rather someone fake being socially conscious than fake being in the streets and living that life or fake what you have or what you can get...


The artist has to understand not every body has a sophisticated palate...It's his responsibility to make his message edible to everyone if he wants notoriety on a stage like the Grammys...
But if you just want to be hood rich and have other meaningless success, we all know you can do that too.
If you want to be praised for your bars...you can do that too.
To each his own.
I don't know about ya'll, but this shyt got me inspired honestly.

You're usually a pretty legit poster from what I can I remember. ..but I gave you several passes in this thread, and this one pushed it over the top...fukk is this bullshyt you talmbout holmes...gotta neg you
Anthrax covered Public Enemy's "Bring da Noize". In terms of Kendrick showing up for white approval, he was nominated for album of the year, so why wouldn't he show up?
I never gave a fukk about a neg...
This is my opinion and i guarantee I can back it up...From the looks of a lot of peoples responses, people aren't comprehending...get ya neg on pimp well the rest actually discuss shyt...
" as the lesson learned...MACKLEMORE BEAT THE UNIVERSALLY HAILED CLASSIC GOOD KID MAAD CITY FOR BEST RAP ALBUM...and you're in here making cliche arguments bout "if we weren't too busy making trap rap and being hood stars this wouldn't happen" like he beat out random ass niche mixtape acts like the Migos or Young Scooter or some sh!t
It's your opinion obviously, it's just nonsensical and in context plainly ridiculous...Kendrick just dropped an album that seemingly personifies everything you're talking about rappers "need to do"...dropped a wildly creative concept album that was both lyrical and appealed to all kinds of demographics (it's one of the biggest albums in years, sh!t's platinum-plus)..he turned song about alcohol abuse and the pressures that lead to it into a legitimate hit record...he's the ultimate "step your lyrical content up while still making it appealing to the masses" rapper...yet he still loss to wack ass off beat cac-rap popstar Macklemore...I'm just struggling to see how anybody walks away from Kendrick getting robbed at the Grammy's with "Oh wow golly gee willikers...guess this should let us know we need to step our lyrical content up" as the lesson learned...MACKLEMORE BEAT THE UNIVERSALLY HAILED CLASSIC GOOD KID MAAD CITY FOR BEST RAP ALBUM...and you're in here making cliche arguments bout "if we weren't too busy making trap rap and being hood stars this wouldn't happen" like he beat out random ass niche mixtape acts like the Migos or Young Scooter or some sh!t
What the fukk are you talking bout??
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What you never understood is this was not a thread to compare Macklemore to Kendrick or choose sides on that...
This is a thread for people to stop complaining about who won and to work on your craft...A challenge to artist to do better...The majority of artist have not created work like Kendrick and their are a lot of artist that can IMO...
I'm in the mind state to just put up or shut up...
What the fukk are you talking bout?