HipHopDX: "How can we prevent hip hop from sounding the same in 2020?"

[Unknown Poster]

This era is beyond basura. It's to the point that I'm losing love for the genre.

I had to rep this.

I can't even pretend that I still have the same love for the genre that I did when I was in my adolescent years, teens, and twenties.

Every video is the same. A bunch of half naked nikkas with no women (or maybe three or four twerking for the camera) pointing guns at the camera over trap beats basically making whole songs out of adlibs.

It sucks that there are so many rappers just doing shyt like this. It's all the same.

I actually stopped checking for new rap and invested myself more in electronic music, mainly house and techno.

Frankly, I just want black people to be great and innovative again...we can do it, we already did. We can do it again.

 

[010101]

most using the same ingredients & similar recipes*

 

[Unknown Poster]

Trap & autotune took over every genre Even Gospel

My number one gripe about trap is it all sounds the same.

The beats, the rappers, the flows, the way they dress, the videos...etc.

We have to be open to more experimental deviations of hip-hop. It's those spin offs that could potentially become new genres.

Then those new genres can then come back and "re-influence" hip-hop. This is how we get that brief EDM, and Dub-Step phase in mainstream hip-hop.

Black folks created EDM...we need to take that shyt back!

Why do we create these great genres of music and then let white folks and non-blacks take it and style on us? To the point people think we didn't have anything to do with that shyt...again. House and techno, drum and bass, jungle, grime, garage...that's BLACK music dammit! That's not the creation of european white folks...that came from black people from the low income neighborhoods of Chicago, Detroit, and East London!

I hate it when people be saying that shyt is "white people music"...that's OUR music and OUR culture...even down to the ballroom and voguing shyt! Madonna who? fukk that!

 

[010101]

there are artist who are very educated musically

the issue is they are always out of tune with the streets unrelatable swaggless etc.

gangsters make the world go round so until they get g's going to juilliard they'll be a divide between what's popping & music that's assembled down to a science ha

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[K.O.N.Y]

He said specifically "elements of" dancehall (not entirely) considering Kool Herc is Jamaican, but it was more Disco than anything else. Both can be true.

But when you think about disco didn't really die...it just turned into house music which then turned into techno.

And I think it's BEEN high time and mighty black folks take back house and techno ! That's OUR shyt.

I agree with the call for house and techno is in store on a grander level than just the nyc,new jersey,dtown,chicago and baltimore scenes

But hip hop predates dancehall and kool herc did not contribute himself to hip hop sonically nor did jamaica

 

[Auger]

Not true

Hip hop sonically originally stemmed from funk and Disco music. Dancehall wasnt even created than lol

So Jamaicans weren't speaking and rhyming over broken beats played by a DJ? Not even the culture of exclusive dub plates?

 

[K.O.N.Y]

So Jamaicans weren't speaking and rhyming over broken beats played by a DJ? Not even dub plates?

My guess is your referring to "Toasting"

Aframs have had our own version of toasting dating back to early gospel



Jamaican toasting wasnt syncopated to the beat in the same way that our early gospel,jive talking was

edit-the cadence is slowed down to match the rappers delight beat. But they were still spitting like early bronx rappers

 

[Oatmeal]

I think its just a changing of the guard. We recieve music different due to technology. Plus social media has a way of stirring the pot to say whats hot. Like for instance, Instead of complaining about Cardi B all the time I noticed this website doesnt acknowledge the female group Oshun






You would think with the militancy on this site , and folks constantly saying "Ogun" these girls would be the mascot for The Coli. They are like a female version of Dead Prez. And there music sounds like something that would have been on heavy rotation on BET in the early 2000's......Yet they are hardly known

I mess with Oshun! I went to their show when they were on tour a while ago and it was dope.

I was gonna ask @Temisan Adoki (verified) to come in here but I see he already stepped in

The main problem is black music isn't being pushed by the entities that are supposed to be about black culture. Urban radio plays the SAME shyt in constant rotation so if you want to hear something different you had to go online, now the problem is streaming services play the same rotation of the alternatives of the radio so you STILL aren't getting a variety for real. People scared to experiment because they want to make music for fame and not artistry. Another major thing is the lack of music theory and listening to different genres of music. There is NO reason we should be hearing samples from songs from 2014 in 2019/2020....Have access to the largest catalogs of music in human history but recycle shyt from 5-6 years ago This generation may be doomed to be imposters and posers, could be because of social media so the music will reflect it.

 

[King Khufu]

Rap now-a-days is a joke.

Anything that's hot is recycled from 30 years ago.
Needs more live soul and funk.

 

[Mastamimd]

Lack of individuality, in the artists and fans.

 

[Wild self]

Young dudes see music as a way to make money, not to innovate or to create. Masculinity at its core is about separating yourself and not copying another person. Femininity is about conformity.

 

[I Really Mean It]

Music reflects the culture. Black people have become perpetual followers, looking to Instagram for their cues in life, mimicking the interchangeable Instathots and dread heads that platform teems with. Most modern rap reflects a diseased mindstate. I’m quite selective in what I listen to. Rhymes about lean, drip, cap, and all that other illiterate drivel sends you to the trash bin.

 

[Mastamimd]

Young dudes see music as a way to make money, not to innovate or to create. Masculinity at its core is about separating yourself and not copying another person. Femininity is about conformity.

It's basically about what the bytches like listening to, from what I see.

 

[Wild self]

It's basically about what the bytches like listening to, from what I see.

Its the blind leading the blind. These dudes been raised off of entertainment and single mothers. All they know how to do is be a follower. They were never taught to be a leader or to innovate or try anything new without the approval of others. That way of thinking is why Trap Music is like Disco, but with 100% negativity.

IF you cater and bend down to what women listen to, you will never try anything new. All this music is in this era, is conformity. Innovation is frowned upon.

 

[kwazzy100]

How about we go back to regional sub-genres?
If the East, West, and Mid-West coast are just doing trap beats, of course it's just gonna sound the same. Hip-Hop needs variety.