Hit-Boy x Alchemist - Goldfish album

[T.H.E. Goat]

Interesting. I mean funny enough my two favorite songs on here are HB produced songs. Home Improvement and Ricky.

Look, you don’t have to sell most people on which producer is more legendary and is more of an OG purist type. But HB is not some fisher price producer either. Sample packs can have their place imo and I think a lot of the HB beats on here sound dope (I didn’t like his ones on the Benny album that he and Alc did)

But his stuff here feels solid to me and I think he’s a decent rapper. My biggest complaint with HB has always been that I just don’t think ye sounds super original, but I do think he’s very skilled and seems like a good dude.

I agree with you, lol my comment kinda came off like I wasn't feeling Hit-Boy or his contributions but I fukked with him on this album in all honesty. The Coli in me just had to get that post off
Ricky most definitely my favorite song from the album, definitely one of HB best produced tracks I've heard.

Edit: You can hear the little subtleties added in the beat that only great producers can do.

 

[T.H.E. Goat]

Not washed. Alc is above but there's not a huge gap be honest. I'm pretty sure if they had not put any credits or any tags most people wouldn't be able to know who produced what except the few usual super hardcore music nerds. A lot of people try to belittle hit boy production for some reason.

Like a lot of people thought primo produced wave gods before finding out hb did the beat and he only did the scratches.
Alc is more experienced, chop the samples better use a better engineer and has a signature style which hb does not have, but hb is dope too and super versatile

On some real though they did actual sharpen each other on this album, you can hear the Hit-Boy influence on Alc's drums and vice versa with the sample chops on Hit's part.

 

[Alexander Wiggin]

On some real though they did actual sharpen each other on this album, you can hear the Hit-Boy influence on Alc's drums and vice versa with the sample chops on Hit's part.

Oh indeed. Working closely with Alc would only improve him. He was already better from Kd1 to kd3 and from the first collab with Alc for the big hit album to now. Producer tend to learn from each other and get sharper

 

[T.H.E. Goat]

Album makes me think about something though, who is Hit-Boy's peers producer-wise and is he the best one

I thought about guys like Mustard, Metro, Mike WILL, Tyler, but they all kinda found success after Hit-Boy

 

[QBN]

Very solid album! On first listen, the first half of the album hit stronger for me than the later part. Alchemist's bars are underrated imo. Yes, he definitely got that Roc Marciano delivery, but I think he does it well. I also get a at how many food references he drops.

To me it's not a competition. These are the two best hip hop producers right now linking up on some Marvel Super Hero Team Up type ish. Us fans are the real "winners" here!

This is the best I've ever heard Hit Boy rhyme and I think working with Nas was definitely a big influence.

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

Alc should stop wasting his time with Hit-boy

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Alc should stop wasting his time with Hit-boy

Sounds like most people are enjoying this album. Luckily, he doesn't agree. lol

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

Sounds like most people are enjoying this album. Luckily, he doesn't agree. lol

It's aight...I despise hit-boy, and I can sense his influence on the production. I like when Alc is in his grimy bag more... Also, I'd prefer Alc spending time on worthwhile projects like LULU 2 or or WWCD 2 or the next Roc/Boldy project, etc.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

It's aight...I despise hit-boy, and I can sense his influence on the production. I like when Alc is in his grimy bag more... Also, I'd prefer Alc spending time on worthwhile projects like LULU 2 or or WWCD 2 or the next Roc/Boldy project, etc.

Despise him? Wow.
I think ALC is a better producer but Hit Boy is dope to me as well.
The last thing I want to hear is him with his old retred collaborators, Conway, Marci, Boldy, Action and Earl. Talk about boring. This year him branching out to do this and work with 2 Chainz is great and refreshing the ALC sound. 2 Chainz and June actually elevated the beats to better conceptual records than we are used to. Great album.

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

Despise him? Wow.
I think ALC is a better producer but Hit Boy is dope to me as well.
The last thing I want to hear is him with his old retred collaborators, Conway, Marci, Boldy, Action and Earl. Talk about boring. This year him branching out to do this and work with 2 Chainz is great and refreshing the ALC sound. 2 Chainz and June actually elevated the beats to better conceptual records than we are used to. Great album.

Hit is very generic to me. Despise might be a strong word, but I like maybe 5%-10% of his beats. They aren't bad by any means, they're just generic, Sprite-commercial/2k loading screen-type beats to me.

 

[Zero]

Al washed Hit-Boy lyrically and beatwise. You can hear a clear difference between a producer who's used to digging and making the most out of samples, and one who's used to sample packs while directing focus towards kick and snare patterns.

Alchemist as a rapper

Nothing yall say will sell me on dude as a rapper.

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

Venables is one ugly cac

 

[GetSomeMoney]

The production is solid but both of these guys as rappers is a snooze fest

 

[L $ C]

alch is an underated rapper to me

this is dope, I dont get the hate this board gives hit boy at all

 

[TheDarceKnight]

It's aight...I despise hit-boy, and I can sense his influence on the production. I like when Alc is in his grimy bag more... Also, I'd prefer Alc spending time on worthwhile projects like LULU 2 or or WWCD 2 or the next Roc/Boldy project, etc.

Lulu 2 and next Boldy project are done from what I understand. I don't feel like Alc has to compromise anything to do these HB projects. He works all the time anyways, and most of his releases are good.

The Boldy project he just confirmed yesterday for early 2026, and it's not like him working with Hit-Boy has prevented him from working with Boldy or Conway, or Gibbs, or Badu, whoever.

I'm at the point where I feel like people should just not listen to the projects of his they aren't as interested in. IMO it'd be different if he only put out Goldfish this year and was sitting on Alfredo 2, Infinite, Life is Good, Mercy, Badu, Unlearning 2, etc.