Hittman Says "Dr. Dre Lost Enthusiasm For Aftermath Records"

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Tupac was right....dre was lazy

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or selfish!

I see it as he was a perfectionist, and wanted his shyt to be top notch, at the cost of other artists not getting his time.

fukk it you right, he was probably as lazy ass too. The nikka been making money from music since his younger years, and never had to do any other shyt besides music, except fukk, eat, shyt, smoke, and look at his back account. He let others do the work because without him no one's eating. The good life:ahh: of a narcissist:scusthov:
 
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Seems like we only notice this with rap labels headed by well known artists, but the majority of the acts that get deals don't actually get releases...just the way the business has always been..add that to the fact that Aftermath wasn't fully autonomous, jimmy iovine was ultimately having official and final say on which aftermath acts came out, and it becomes no big surprise that hittman and others got lost int he shuffle
 

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Bingo!! I've always said this. Dre could have capitalized even more off of his name musically. The nikka could have dropped a hell of a lot more albums on aftermath.

All he had to do was attach his name. Imagine if he signed kurupt and daz, all he had to do is say Dr Dre presents..... Or produced by and any album he dropped would have sold like crazy
Its obvious Dre is into quality over quantity:yeshrug:
 

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I doubt it's because he's lazy. Just because he's not releasing music doesn't mean he isn't working on it. Of course him working on music means nothing to a fan because we aren't hearing it. I'm always annoyed to read or hear about artists working on music that they end up not releasing.

With Dre, there's several factors that come into play:

1) It's a business. Signing an artist you believe in and them actually having a successful career are two different things

2) It's very easy for an artist to fall into trap of not doing the work once they sign to Dre. They might get the attitude that "oh, I'm signed to Dre. All I have to do is rap over his beats"

3) I could imagine that Dr. Dre probably isn't the easiest producer to work with. It could be annoying considering he makes people change and re-record the smallest things. There's also stories about him just shutting down if he feels the artist isn't putting their best into what they are doing.

4) There's also him signing artists like Rakim. Rakim had his own legacy, image, and most importantly integrity. There were certain elements that he wasn't willing to change. Nobody should sacrifice their integrity for anything.
 

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Sign to aftermath brehs. dude seems smart but didnt he have a fukked up manager?


yeah Hittman gotta look at his own camp as well

like if u aware it's a stagnent situation. .

then u and ur manager should look at other opportunities. ..

but a lot of these managers are groupies themselves love to be attached to a brand even if the brand ain't doing right by thier clients

or have an association with a brand or venture that creates a conflict of interest because the manager isn't working on the artists behalf

I'm going thru that now with a former artist of mine who is with this lame manager who got her turning down deal after deal because he too busy trying to stay plugged in with Styles P.

meanwhile the artist has no car..no shows and is losing passion..and don't even have her own music anymore
 

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I fukk with Hittman's music, but what he's saying kinda applies to damn near everybody.

Who focuses as much on others as they do themselves? No one. You know what you get when you get in the studio with Dre. It's his label, but it's your career. At the end of the day, none of us should expect the next man to share the same level of passion for our work as we do. That's not that man's job. Eve was on Aftermath initially and got shelved, but kept grindin' and ended up selling millions of records and winnin' Grammy's under an entirely different umbrella.

If Dre ain't giving you the push that you want from him, that's his right. But I don't get why cats live and die on the approval or co-sign of one person. If he's not fukkin' with it, then move on and find some people that will. Who gives a fukk about what Dre gets behind? LOL!! Somebody else'll love that shyt!
it's a hard move... it's like those people that sign those fukked up deals

you never had a deal in your life... tomorrow you sitting in front of iovine.. who says he wants you to sign with him and be on dre's label... you know the numbers ain't right.. but you're a nobody.. who knows if you'll ever get another shot... how quick you saying "i'm good" and back to your 9-5 or whatever you doing.. in hopes you get another meeting like that


so you sign... now you on dre's label.. he throwing you some bs tracks but they are DRE tracks... he asking you to write songs for DETOX for him to spit... he got AAA stars in and out the studio.. you talking with them, soaking up game, making friends... going out, meeting bytches, living the life... but you notice your album ain't coming soon... how fast you approaching dre? or leaving?


some people do it.. some people succeed.. some people fail.. some never try


i just don't think it's that easy to walk away from like people say it would be
 

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Most of the time when Dre dropped classics he was coming off some type of setback and had something to prove.

Alonzo took all his money and left him in the county to rot, Easy bails him out, they release Sraight Out of Compton.

Cube bounced, he got with Ren and DOC they dropped N4L.

Beef with Eazy, he gets with Suge and Clavin and they drop The Chronic.

Suge and Pac run him off Deat Row, he drops a dud, regroups and drops Chronic 2001.


We need Jimmy to swindle Dre out of that billion dollars so we can get Detox.
he gets bored really quick it seems

he did all that work on em's first 2 albums... now he executive produces but not a majority of the songs

he did the same with snoop.. no reason they didn't work more when they both left death row

50 the same

game

rakim

busta

eve


seems like he gets real excited to work with someone.. maxes them out (he's like kubrick, will make you do 50-60 takes of one verse).. then when he doesn't see anything more or new to it, he moves on

he's doing it with detox.. it was probably a dope idea at first.. i remember it was first supposed to be some story, like a hitman on his last assignment or some shyt... who knows what it is now.. who cares.. he doesn't obviously

but he's found new life in kendrick.. like he does every so often with rappers.. then he gets tired.. then he finds another
 

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Good point! but the only different is that Dre got a bunch of talents rappers....he wastes their time for real. Aftermath would be the biggest label of all time with all these talents you got?....

At the same time, Master P basically is on his own, which mean independent label so Dre is under his boss, Jimmy's Interscope. Master P was a smart business man ever.
dre sold parts of aftermath early.. i think now and for a few years past, he's only owned 30% of the company

rakim said that was one of the first things dre told him... that it's really iovine who drops all the artists, whenever iovine feels they aren't worth it no more..

but i really think iovine just notices when dre ain't doing their records.. cause in the same interview, rakim said dre would always put him with the b and c list team producers
 

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By all accounts Dre is supposed to be a studio rat, every artist who fukks with him says the same. shyt is crazy, the Aftermath vaults would be a diamond mine of piff.
interview with Mel-Man


Q: Does "The Vault" really exist?
A: Yes it does. Dre's vault is the stuff of legend. It is almost mythical. I have sworn to secrecy about its location so i won't touch that part. Have I Ever been in there? Ha, If I told you that I'd have to k!ll you. What is in the vault? The vault basically has every track dre has ever recorded. He has copies of everything he did on de@th Row but can never release. You can't even imagine how many instrumentals that have accumulated over the years I've been at Aftermath. It's in the thousands. Dre keeps all his music for his own personal use and listening. He basically keeps them as a soundtrack to his life. Most of the leftovers will never be heard. Most of the unused instrumentals will never be heard, at least while Dre is alive. There is enough music to release hundreds of albums so Dre could possibly live through music for many additional lifetimes. But you'll most likely never hear them. I don't know what will happen when Dre passes away. it depends upon who controsl his massive estate. Hopefully that is many years from now, though.

I have had the privalege to hear a lot of music you will never have a chance to hear and for that i am sorry. Dre usually does a great job of using the right beats and songs, but some of the unreleased music is some of the dopest sh#t I have ever heard. We sometimes are in awe of what Dre tosses out but Dre knows what Dre wants. Who are we to argue. We may plead and beg but in the end its Dre's music so he can do with it what he wants. I truly wish that I could let you hear the music because you are missing out on some the most innovative and dope unreleased music in the history of this business. From ruthless to Aftermath there is truly some great tracks out there than only Dre will ever hear. If I knew how to do it I might be able to post some old Ruthless Dr. Dre remixes that are very very rare. I got these tracks from Dre cause they were released in very limited edition so they qualify as released.
Anyway, The Vault is real and does contain close to the entire Dre creative library. I am honored to have heard a lot of mind blowing unreleased Dre tracks. But alas, like you guys I am sure there is a lot of great sh#t in there that I, along with the rest of the human race, will never hear. Peace.

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if dre was lazy then he defiantly aint doing sh!t after getting that beats money
 
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