Hmm would you look at this..
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Lil Gangsta
Toronto Driftwood Crip
These nikkas dont even get that the reason why its reference tracks in the first place its cuz this is even more than jus takin another mans bars(which itself is unrespectable as an MC), this is taking another mans STYLE.
Show me reference tracks from other artists or
Some of these dudes would do themselves a favor by listening to QM's own solo shyt and see exactly how similar it is so IYRTITL Drake.
Big Mel
@bigboss
Here's the original Method Man song, vs what Ghost wrote:
What's hilarious is @charmander is trolling heavy and people actually think he agrees with the thread. I see you Char.
Fred.
FRED DA GAWDSON
Yep. I mean, Dirty rapped an entire Gza song, 'what are silly girls made of', on the 'don't u know part 2' and I just took it as an ode to his cousin who made a dope ass album that barely anyone payed attention to on some "we're dope, we've been dope, even what im doing now is dope, fukk you" type shyt.
Comparing Wu Tang Clan to Drake is rich even for these wild times. And Drake is probably the one new school rapper whose music I enjoy consistently.
lotta my favorite posters outchea.
@charmander
@Tall Israeli
I got Billy on ig. He goin' ham outchea?
Bruh, Rae and Ghost flat out told you "yeah Rae wrote that rhyme." Why would they hide other shyt when they've freely volunteered that info?
And you already know Ghost was the co-host of Purple Tape. It was a clearly-demonstrated collaborator relationship. No one was secretly writing whole songs for another and not getting screen/airtime.
This thread just doesn't make sense. It's like you don't know (nor care) what it means to be a ghostwriter.
Mastamimd
Ain't shyt
You're acting like this has happened several times with Ghostface. The one time he spits a whole verse he didn't write, and y'all act like ghostwriting is a common accepted practice in hip hop
Ghost has shown he is more than capable of writing whole albums of brilliance, and rhymes so specific to his situation/personality that the likelihood of them being ghostwritten is near zero. If he takes a line here or there, as long as it's tasteful, what's the problem? HIP HOP been doing this. You take a line from a brotha to quote him/shout him out, etc.
It's been well understood that rappers will hang in the studio, and one of their boys might toss a line. shyt... "Represent" has half of Queensbridge on that track. In the 90s, it was common to have someone in your crew finish a rhyme on the actual song as though you were having a convo with more than just the listener on a song.
Y'all really comparing this to fukking reference tracks?!
Besides, the really hard work in hip hop is figuring out the flow/personality on a beat. It's not even the pen part. It's the "how do I flow to this beat" part and how does it match my personality. That's why reference tracks are so offensive. Because it's literally: "here's your rhyme and this is how you flow". All the hard work has been done for you.
Do y'all even understand this culture you claim to love?
Sometimes I justat these threads.
They don't hear you tho my nig...they may or may not have wrote this song together. I dabbled in spitting myself...shyts not easy. Heaven and Hell was Rae's song, it's like GFK played hype man on that song if anything. You see a hip hop concert from back in the day you'd have nikkas doing this shyt the same way. Rae's song that GFK happened to recite HIS lyrics. It's not like the same thing. Why can't you guys see this.
dumb thread shorty....workin on the same album TOGETHER will most likely have shyt like this happening....I can bet in the history of duo albums shyt like this happens....all the time.....this is not the same as "yo my man....imma give you 5 racks if you can think of some dope shyt for this beat 40 just put together...and tell no one"
Lil Gangsta
Toronto Driftwood Crip
Becuz it doesnt make sense to argue about shyt we dont know of
. If you can make legit critically founded assumptions yes, but jus making wild ones off the deep end doesnt lead to anything.Plus, it wouldnt exactly help Drake if you did that.... what if its more reference tracks? What if RICO aint the only song QM wasnt credited on? What if QM had contributions to B2B?
see shyt would never end
You know what, I quit, ya'll will continue to spin shyt, I'm done. :icant:
aint nobody spinning shyt. You're just being dumb and have nothing constructive to say, so you give up.
It's always the mental midgets that are the first to bounce out of a convo they likely started.
DonKnock
KPJ Gonna Save Us
They lost their damn minds after the pissing thing came out
I watched it happen.Trying to say that shyt was a win, then they just started reaching for all types of other shyt.
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I'mat "hmmm....look at this". It's been known since the album dropped. It was specifically mentioned in the XXL "OB4CL" special issue from 10 years ago, which is where that quote is from.
I hope to God people knew this and are just trolling heavy right now.
For (hopefully) the last time, if Drake came out and said "QM wrote all/most/some of my shyt"....there is no problem. You know....kinda like Ghost did in this situation.
Now if....let's say....Killer Priest or somebody exposed a reference track to "Heaven & Hell" that Rae spit for Ghost....that Ghost tried to cover up....that his lawyers were desperately trying to wipe off the internet....then yeah, it would be the same thing.
Fred.
This.
Drake stans are on some "if Drake goes down, EVERYONE must go down with him" bullshyt
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Whatever fam, Ghost admitted he didn't write that shyt, and ya'll spun the topic, like I said, i'm done
Big Mel
@bigboss
Lil Gangsta
Toronto Driftwood Crip
They lost their damn minds after the pissing thing came out
Trying to say that shyt was a win, then they just started reaching for all types of other shyt.
Pinyapplesuckas
He's A Good Man
isnt that a given considering they rap back and forth? listen to tracks with Styles/Jada back and forth and tell me they wrote all their own parts...you know damn well one of them wrote it and they just split it up.