Honest question, if both parties are the same. Why do KKK and Neo Nazi's and other white supremacy groups despise democrats so much?
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I did answer the question, you just didn't like the answer, fukk what you like. Black folks didn't start voting for democrates like that til the 60's, we were still with the "party of emanicipation"...so what really changed?
He a smart dumb nikka too? Everything he said on the topic in time applied then, 1422 and right now.
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Yet another lie. I seem to have caught you in a lot of lies today.
Black voters hadn't favored Republicans since before the Depression. All the Civil Rights Act did was move the Black vote from ~70% Democrat to ~90% Democrat, which is a minor shift considering what the Black population is state-by-state and who controls the states with the largest black population. However, it shifted the racist white vote in those states by a huge proportion, from 90% Democrat to 90% Republican, which was a huge political cost.
Why are you so committed to lying about Black history?
A: because they are stupid & don't realize they are being played & B: because the Dems represent the Professional Managerial Class of the Liberal elites. The ones that promote diversity, equitable outcomes & "progressive ideals", all of which sound great but when you scratch the surface it's nothing but meaningless buzz words. All the identity politics is a distraction to keep the masses divided so that the corporations they serve can steal the wealth.Our ancestors were sheep and "on the plantation for voting Democrat right?
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The Dems job is to play the heel, to give the racists something to focus their hatred on. As LBJ said: “If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.”
The Dems serve the same corporations as the Republicans & will do nothing that actually helps minorities other than performative nonsense like when Pelosi & the gang wore a Ghanaian scarf & took a knee.
As Malcolm X said: “The White liberal is the worst enemy to America and the worst enemy to the Black man"
Joos.
Start with that
Start with that
Be unaware that the 13th Amendment exists, dumbass. He didn't stop with the Emancipation Proclamation. Also be unaware Lincoln actually pushed for the Black vote when he had the power to do so.
Abraham Lincoln's Last Public Address
www.abrahamlincolnonline.org
Lincoln stood at the window over the building's main north door, a place where presidents customarily gave speeches. Brooks held a light so Lincoln could read his speech, while young Tad Lincoln grasped the pages as they fluttered to his feet. The speech introduced the complex topic of reconstruction, especially as it related to the state of Louisiana. For the first time in a public setting, Lincoln expressed his support for black suffrage. This statement incensed John Wilkes Booth, a member of the audience, who vowed, "That is the last speech he will make." A white supremacist and Confederate activist, Booth made good on his threat three days later.
The fact that you take his campaign statements as honesty (when he was running for president in a country that was 90% against Black rights), and then turn around and pretend his actual personal statements, actions, and moves in government were all just fake, is wild. Lincoln was racist like virtually every white man of his time, he had only been taught racism and only experience black people in unequal settings. But whether he honestly desired black rights and an end to slavery is not in any doubt.
Black Lives Certainly Mattered to Abraham Lincoln
A look at the president's words and actions during his term shows his true sentiments on slavery and racial equality
www.smithsonianmag.com
It was never about the morality of slavery. If not EVER freeing slaves would have achieved his political goals he would have let them rot.
You can't seriously believe this bullshyt. When has being pro-Black EVER been a political asset with White America? We're not stupid.
There are copious receipts of Lincoln being against slavery. Even his parents were abolitionists.
Experiences with Slavery - mrlincolnandfreedom.org
Abraham Lincoln Slave treatment A Slave Pen at New Orleans before the Auction Slave Auction House on Whitehall Street in Atlanta, Georgia Seven African-American slaves preparing cotton for a gin in South Carolina. “The first impression of slavery which Abraham…Read more ›
www.mrlincolnandfreedom.org
If Lincoln was all about "saving the union" and nothing else, then why did he push the anti-slavery shyt that CAUSED the South to leave in the first place, dumbass? Why would he co-found the Republican Party as an anti-slavery party, knowing that it could tear the country apart? Why would he write in personal letters going back 20 years before he became president, before he even entered politics, talking to his family members about how much he abhorred slavery? Why would he be so overtly anti-slavery that the South left the union solely because Lincoln got elected, before he'd even taken power or done anything?
Back when Lincoln was running for president (and later running for a 2nd term), only a minority of Americans supported abolishing slavery. So of course he had to downplay his opinions on slavery and his feelings about Black people publicly. No one was going to win the presidency on a Black Power platform in fukking 1859, only a tiny handful of people even believed in Black intellectual equality then, and Lincoln probaby wasn't one of them. But he DID believe in justice, and clearly believed that slavery was wrong, and was willing to do everything to the point of allowing a Civil War rather than allow slavery to spread any further than it already had.
It's ignorant as fukk that you keep taking the political shyt people say when they're talking with the opps and pretend that's their honest beliefs, then taking the personal shyt they say and actually do that costs them politically and pretend those actions were just strategic.
Here's a question for you. If it was all political, then why did he work his fukking ass off to pass the 13th Amendment? The war was already basically won, he didn't need it to preserve the union at all. He could have just allowed the status quo. But he spent the final months of his life by all accounts working his ass off to get every vote, traded in every favor he had available, made a ton of shady backroom deals, solely to force through a permanent, constitutional end to slavery forever which wasn't even a popular position with the people yet. Why would he do that, if he was just being "political", like you think?
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HarlemHottie
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"Without offering a critique" while you literally repeat their critique. Can't stand middle of the road ass nikkas.
Scustin Bieburr
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That isn't their usual critique. The people who say "both sides" don't endorse a belief in Anarchism, Libertarian socialism or just plain democratic socialism. They don't talk about what they'd do instead of voting. like focusing on direct action, boycotts, and propping up local liberal politicians in hopes that they win and go further.
"Without offering a critique" while you literally repeat their critique. Can't stand middle of the road ass nikkas.
I vote, and I vote at the local level paying close attention to the most liberal candidate with the best chance of winning. I also donate to local mutual aid groups and non-profits. The posters I'm talking about are often just reactionaries who either don't feel like voting, or are Tariq-style conservatives who live in an alternate reality where every other group is living it up thanks to direct payments from the government . These posters don't care if American democracy collapses into a fascist state.
They believe in a fantasy where even if the more liberal citizens take the country back from fascists, rather than ignoring calls for reparations, they'll guarantee it happens on some "we should have treated yall better. If we gave you this, we wouldn't have collapsed into a fascist state. We're sorry here you go" when they're more likely to (if the pessimistic 'white people will never do the right thing' logic and perspective is consistent) say "fukk yall. You didn't vote to prevent this. Be grateful we prevented your genocide. You get nothing" similar to the northern politicians who allowed reconstruction to fail after the civil war.
HarlemHottie
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BS. I'm active at the local level as well, have been for decades, and yet I'm constantly framed as one of the Tariq acolyte reactionaries. I think you're lying to try to sound reasonable.
Explain that last paragraph more clearly, pls. I got lost in the run-on sentences.
Scustin Bieburr
Baby baybee baybee UUUGH
I don't know you so I can't speak to your individual politics. I'm talking about the trend I see generally from these "both sides" posters. They just pop into threads or post misinformation that gets debunked. They aren't saying "both sides are the same when it comes to economic and foreign policy" they're just popping into threads saying "both sides
" "no tangible no vote 
" and making fun of people who do support democrats because the alternative is usually a blatant white supremacist.My last paragraph explains how no tangible no vote is a fantasy that doesn't even make sense under its own logic. There was a civil war. The victorious union didn't implement and aggressively protect the human rights of black people as far as they were concerned, the fact that they fought to abolish slavery was enough. To expect that a civil war could happen again and that the people in charge would give us reparations is optimistic at best.
Rakim Allah
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Sounds like the ancestors were #BothIdes, friends.Pretty sure the ancestors actually held both parties accountable without a fraction of the power and influence we have today. Not to mention they didnt have nearly the ammount of experience we had dealing with these bad faith actors. Theres a reason your sales pitch is the fact the other option is worst,rather than having any faith or confidence in democrats
HarlemHottie
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Nah, you don't get to do that. That's like me grouping all loud and proud black dems as low information voters. The vast majority are willing to make more reasoned arguments, but since the only response is "maga c00n," wtf is the point? Why bother?I don't know you so I can't speak to your individual politics. I'm talking about the trend I see generally from these "both sides" posters. They just pop into threads or post misinformation that gets debunked. They aren't saying "both sides are the same when it comes to economic and foreign policy" they're just popping into threads saying "both sides
"No tangibles, no vote" doesn't imply an expectation of tangibles. The whole point is, both sides are anti black, so you're right, it would make no sense. "No tangibles, no vote" means that Dems no longer get to use us to acquire power that they then expend on other groups, period. If we fukked up, everybody gon be fukked up, oh fukking well.
Lakers Offseason
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This.
Never vote Republican.
But know Democrats look at our votes as a means to an end. Hold them accountable even as folks within the black community shame you if you don't fully support agendas that don't benefit you.