Hong Kong has entered a state of mass civil disobedience

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No theory is inadmissible.. now you've got me thinking. But they'll cover their tracks well, and what can I, a mere citizen, do about it? I'll have to just sit back and see what happens.
i saw new york protests on facebook last about some energy/green corporations shyt. didn't see it on coli nor the media... i don't even know whether it was real or not.
said it was a good thousands of people.. enough to get media attention.

imo if it were real then they wouldn't give it real attention. if it were fake they'd have it all over the media..
 

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The Chinese government will not allow Western troops to EVER set foot in our city again.

but 'Murrica...


nah, i'm just fukking with you.
i wish nothing but the best for you, your people and everyone around the world.
keep us updated, i really enjoyed reading your posts on this subject.
 

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i saw new york protests on facebook last about some energy/green corporations shyt. didn't see it on coli nor the media... i don't even know whether it was real or not.
said it was a good thousands of people.. enough to get media attention.

imo if it were real then they wouldn't give it real attention. if it were fake they'd have it all over the media..
governments are always sketchy as fukk regarding energy.. too much money involved. smh

but 'Murrica...


nah, i'm just fukking with you.
i wish nothing but the best for you, your people and everyone around the world.
keep us updated, i really enjoyed reading your posts on this subject.
Thanks, much appreciated :salute:
 

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anyway this fake ass civil disobedience could've been cia initiated like the arab spring :usure::patrice::mjpls:


i'm trying to look at the big picture.. as a distraction with what's going on in the middle east..

i doubt it's fake. like @joeychizzle said, hong kongers protest a lot against the government and often. hell, they'll protest even when it comes to small shyt. here's a picture of a protest last year when the HK government didn't approve the application for a potential free to air TV station:

hktv-protest-hong-kong.jpg
 

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i saw new york protests on facebook last about some energy/green corporations shyt. didn't see it on coli nor the media... i don't even know whether it was real or not.
said it was a good thousands of people.. enough to get media attention.

imo if it were real then they wouldn't give it real attention. if it were fake they'd have it all over the media..

it was real, I know people who attended and there are lots photos.

Supposedly there were a few hundred thousand people, from the photos I've seen that seems realistic.
 

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Why Hong Kong’s protests are a very big deal

By Ishaan Tharoor September 29 at 5:04 PM
the heart of Hong Kong, Asia's most prominent financial center, present what some commentators consider the biggest challenge to Beijing since the 1989 Tiananmen protests. For two consecutive nights, protesters have massed in some of the city's busiest areas and refused to budge despite police firing multiple rounds of tear gas to disperse the crowds.

The immediate impetus for the demonstrations is new measures proposed by China's authorities that would limit who Hong Kongers can elect in 2017 elections. But the political earthquake shaking the former British colony is centered on a far deeper fault line: the struggle for freedom and democracy in China and the ability for Beijing's authoritarian rulers to cope with the aspirations of 7 million Hong Kongers. Here's what you need to know.

What is the relationship between Hong Kong and China?
Hong Kong, which comprises a number of islands and a coastal strip east of southern China's Pearl River Delta, was a British colony for more than a century and a half before a negotiated deal between London and Beijing handed the territory over to China in 1997. It became a "Special Administrative Region" (SAR) of China under a unique set of conditions, dubbed "one country, two systems": Hong Kongers were granted a range of freedoms far greater than what is allowed on the Chinese mainland. The city maintains its own immigration and customs policy, its own police force, courts and laws, modeled in part on what existed in colonial times. The British also extracted a somewhat nebulous guarantee from the Chinese that Hong Kong would be permitted a "high degree of autonomy" for 50 years after its return to China.

Despite the fears of many doom-mongers, Hong Kong after 1997 remained much the same as Hong Kong before the handover. It was administered by China but with a long leash: Hong Kongers commemorate the June 4 anniversary of the Tiananmen protests every year with mass vigils and marches. Freedom of press and assembly has been preserved, and the city still gets top marks in the region for its rule of law and protection of human rights. Hong Kong has something of a democratic political system, with myriad political parties taking up seats in a legislative assembly that, while beholden to Beijing's interests, is not wholly cowed by them.

But in recent years, Hong Kongers have grown increasingly concerned with China's long shadow and fear that Beijing will steadily undermine the SAR's unique freedoms and dismantle the "one country, two systems" model. Recent protests have highlighted attacks on Hong Kong's freedom of speech as well as the growing influx and influence of mainlanders in the territory. Hong Kongers, many of whom are first- or second-generation descendants of Chinese who fled Communist rule, see themselves in some respects as a people apart from the rest of China. It all came to a head earlier this month when Beijing announced that Hong Kong's next leader, known as the chief executive, would come only from a slate of candidates vetted by Chinese authorities ahead of planned elections in 2017.



Who are the protesters?
The protests have involved a convergence of various movements: the organizers who launched #OccupyCentral, Hong Kong's (in many ways more successful) equivalent of the U.S. Occupy Wall Street movement, which was directed as much at the city's own business elites as it was at Beijing; Hong Kong's traditional pro-democracy groups, including many that are active during annual June 4 protests; and a huge outpouring of university and high school students, galvanized by the arrest on Friday of a 17-year-old student leader.

They are calling for the resignation of Hong Kong's current chief executive, Leung Chun-ying, considered by critics to be a Beijing proxy, and want to see free, direct elections allowed in the territory. They say they plan to press these demands through peaceful civil disobedience. The protests have been marked by propriety and peacefulness, with activists recycling trash in the middle of demonstrations and school kids dutifully doing their homework while conducting a sit-in.

How is Beijing reacting to this?
Awkwardly. China's state media censored news of the protests, while authorities also blocked access to social media sites such as Instagram, on which Hong Kong protest hashtags were trending. They also condemned the "unlawful occupation actions" taking place in Hong Kong and suggested a foreign hand was guiding radicals mobilizing in the streets. Leung has branded the protests "illegal" and urged Hong Kongers to engage in "rational" dialogue with their local government.

What will happen next?
The protests appear to be growing. Wednesday and Thursday mark a national holiday in China, and many expect what takes place on those days to define the current unrest. If the sit-ins and demonstrations continue with the intensity they've already shown, there's a chance that local security forces could crack down more violently than they have so far, including perhaps using rubber bullets. That sort of violent response could be a disaster for Hong Kong's government, which would face mounting pressure from the territory's voluble civil society and media.

For China's rulers, the choices seem more clear. They've already signaled their lack of interest in allowing a true democracy to flourish in Hong Kong. State media in the past have pointed to the arrogance and "racism" of Hong Kong's anti-Chinese activists; an influential Chinese commentator notoriously labeled Hong Kongers "dogs of British imperialists." China is unlikely to allow the protesters to win many concessions.

For many years now, optimists have seen Hong Kong's present as China's future. Just as its capitalistic dynamism helped incubate economic transformations that spread from nearby south China through the rest of the mainland, Hong Kong's more open political system was supposed to be a guide for a liberalizing China. The current unrest will test whether that narrative has any truth — or if the former British colony will remain a thorny exception to a Chinese leadership wholly bent on consolidating its grip on power.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs.../why-hong-kongs-protests-are-a-very-big-deal/

 

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The irony of upset residents in Ferguson, being labelled thugs and looters because they want justice, yet this will probably be played out in the media as people fighting for their freedom against an oppressive government.

Yep, Ferguson is going to spark a Revolution in China. Imagine that. American racism, that started the chain of events that inspired Hitler taking over Europe, now is going to start a revolution in China.

Cot Damn they're literally policing the situation just like Ferguson, they reports of cops roaming through crowds straight flexing on protesters, not to mention there are reports of police jamming cellphone communication in the area :dwillhuh:

How can you jam cell phone use like that? :mindblown:

No one bothered uploading their videos on Worldstar Hip Hop?
 

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Yep, Ferguson is going to spark a Revolution in China. Imagine that. American racism, that started the chain of events that inspired Hitler taking over Europe, now is going to start a revolution in China.



How can you jam cell phone use like that? :mindblown:

No one bothered uploading their videos on Worldstar Hip Hop?
lol I don't think worldstar is exactly a leading site in the mainland. if it's even allowed at all.
 

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yall need to grow a pair of balls, and learn from the japanese :wow:

http://english.people.com.cn/200309/27/eng20030927_125049.shtml
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:merchant:the disrespect:whyme: these little islanders need to be reminded of 1945 again. ima need obama to drop a few kilotons of liberty on em

that's like 400 duck dynasty type republicans hiring 500 black prostitutes for a massive ghetto gaggers just before black history month:deadkid:

i'm surprised the government didn't 'accidentally' burst in on em and 'accidentally' think they were armed and 'accidentally' bust a few shots
 

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Fake Terror Threats, Standing Up to Beijing, Secret Fed Tapes, World Leaders Call Out UN



my anti-establishment small ass white girl says...
 

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Many people have been encouraged by the September 18 Scottish referendum

‘Nobody is allowed to break up Spain’: Madrid court suspends Catalonia vote

Spain’s Constitutional Court decided Monday that Catalonia has no right to vote for its independence. The independence referendum planned by Catalonia’s President for this November was unanimously suspended by 12 judges.

READ MORE: Catalonia president orders independence referendum on Nov. 9

Speaking in a televised address after an emergency cabinet meeting Monday, Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy said he regretted Catalonia’s president Artur Mas’s decision to call for separation from Spain:

“I regret it because it’s against the law; it’s beyond democratic law, divides Catalans, distances them from Europe and the rest of Spain and seriously damages their welfare.”
Madrid has not yet voiced the government’s further plans beyond the appeal, although Rajoy is sure the Catalan president’s initiative,
“being illegal won’t see the light of the day”.


“Nobody and nothing will be allowed to break up Spain”, the Prime Minister said.
http://rt.com/news/191672-spain-suspends-catalonia-vote/
 

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In recent years, there has been a massive influx of mainland Chinese people, coming down, taking our jobs, clogging our streets, taking our allocated school places (kids are allocated spots here, because schools are at capacity), giving birth in our hospitals and claiming benefits. Mainland Chinese students come to our universities and receive tens of thousands of US dollar's worth in grants each while local students struggle. They are often loud, often low class, hate us for living a better life. They are seen as a nuisance. Worse yet, the government allows this daily desecration of our city because the officials in the Chinese capital have paid them billions. Due to the increasing number of classless millionaires and rising GDP, they come down and throw money in our faces, acting as though money gives you power and authority. The worst of all this is that they are greatly boosting our economy, so we are forced to yield. It's insulting.

I say the vast, vast majority of Hong Kong citizens are highly against this. Everywhere I go, all I hear and see is complaints and hatred for the mainlanders. The better side of me acknowledges that all are equal and deserve equal opportunities, but the realistic side of me sees the changing landscape. When I was still studying in the UK years ago, Hong Kong was a beautiful place. It is still beautiful now, but it is tinged with the smell of lower-class citizens dirtying our place.

I say the ratio of people that support democracy over pre-elected puppets is about 85:15. There will always be those who support the flipside.

My ex was from China though. The only one I ever loved. Deeply. (no drake though)

It's interesting to me how you type, talk and post. :ohhh: Now I have to visit hong kong after this shyt calms down and China forces you guys to sit down. :leostare:



anyway, this post makes me resent Chinese people and I'm not even Chinese.:ehh:
 

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It's interesting to me how you type, talk and post. :ohhh: Now I have to visit hong kong after this shyt calms down and China forces you guys to sit down. :leostare:



anyway, this post makes me resent Chinese people and I'm not even Chinese.:ehh:
Come and visit us to expand your world views and to enjoy our culture, not to see the effects of suppression.
Try to see and treat all races without prejudice, regardless of influences. Opinions must be formed from your own experiences. I have encountered both good and bad people of all types, but my opinion of them remains mostly positive.

I only spoke of the negativity to allow my coli brehs to better understand one of the main factors behind this protest.
 
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