Rakim Allah
Superstar
and there you have it.I like Rakim and still think "JUICE" is a top 10 all time hip hop track
but this shyt:
The video or the song. The song is classic, the video is wack.
#HotTake...how Rakim a GOAT but go damn near two decades with NOBODY checking for him??
- Thread starter T.he I.nformant
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The video or the song. The song is classic, the video is wack.
Rakim Allah
Superstar
I already know you go into this and every topic with bitter "NY treated us bad" feelings, so I can't help but take some of this with a grain of salt. Bottom line is, Rakim doesn't have a long line of mediocre album after album, which is a credit to his overall catalogue. There are many others who stayed in the game for a long time, putting out several lackluster projects. As a matter of fact, there ain't a lot of artists back then who made so much of an impact that they could've gone away for 5 years and then come back to any fanfare whatsoever. His run was solid and consistent up until that point, and when you narrow it all down, out of seven, he has two that weren't good. Some of the best rappers ever have more weak albums on their resume than they should, such is not the case with his.
Pretty much.
Ra has 3 bonafide Classics and two near classics.
Not many EMCEEs have 5 great albums.
The Master had quite a few dope joints on there but Ra seemed to be a little more about the flow than the lyrics for the first time on the album.
7th Seal he was killing it with the rhyme schemes but the production and hooks were blah. Needed more straight spittin joints.
Rakim Allah
Superstar
So undemonic friend.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
comparing different worlds.
rakim was around when rap was more of a sport and you had to legitimately stay on par musically & skills-wise to maintain relevance. and the better you were, the higher the standards. plus there were new people blowing up on a monthly basis with the game & culture changing rapidly.
as opposed to now, where you dont even have to make good music or even be good at all to maintain relevance. and aside from jingle single rappers,its virtually the same 10 rappers over & over for the past 10 years.
and then people wonder why hip-hop is dead.
people yap about jay-z & nas, but most of their chit wouldnt have made a dent in rakim's era. meanwhile, if rakim dropped say his 4th album w/ eric b in modern times, he wouldve shut the game down.
im concvinced that youre eric b's son.
in every thread, somebody has to correct you on the fact that eric b wasnt a producer or DJ.
rakim was around when rap was more of a sport and you had to legitimately stay on par musically & skills-wise to maintain relevance. and the better you were, the higher the standards. plus there were new people blowing up on a monthly basis with the game & culture changing rapidly.
as opposed to now, where you dont even have to make good music or even be good at all to maintain relevance. and aside from jingle single rappers,its virtually the same 10 rappers over & over for the past 10 years.
and then people wonder why hip-hop is dead.
people yap about jay-z & nas, but most of their chit wouldnt have made a dent in rakim's era. meanwhile, if rakim dropped say his 4th album w/ eric b in modern times, he wouldve shut the game down.
Man all I know is his solo albums leave more ( a whole lot more ) to be desired..
My man is supposed to be a goat but those solo albums are
im concvinced that youre eric b's son.
in every thread, somebody has to correct you on the fact that eric b wasnt a producer or DJ.
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Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
that 18th letter album served its purpose. it was one of the better legends albums released during that '97-98 period, and imo it was lyrically the best solo album released that year.
now on the overall, was i even expecting him to come in and compete with the current big dogs? HELL NO. he was old school and had his time. rap wasnt stagnant back then like it is now.
and this.
best post in this thread.
problem is, people are oblivious to their history, so somehow this is not only a thread, but an 11-page thread.
this was a hot single back in '97 bruh.
you buggin out.
like who?
who are these rappers that you speak of?
rakim living off of '80s & early '90s material is no different than nas living off of '90s and early '00s material.
and lol @ nas' spotty catalog being better than rakim's, let alone way better.
now on the overall, was i even expecting him to come in and compete with the current big dogs? HELL NO. he was old school and had his time. rap wasnt stagnant back then like it is now.
and this.
best post in this thread.
problem is, people are oblivious to their history, so somehow this is not only a thread, but an 11-page thread.
and there you have it.I like Rakim and still think "JUICE" is a top 10 all time hip hop track
but this shyt:
this was a hot single back in '97 bruh.
you buggin out.
like who?
who are these rappers that you speak of?
rakim living off of '80s & early '90s material is no different than nas living off of '90s and early '00s material.
and lol @ nas' spotty catalog being better than rakim's, let alone way better.
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And there's one thing nobody here has mentioned- even in his absence, his influence still loomed... and his lyrics and songs have been name checked by everybody from Nas to Master P to Jay to Eminem to Lil' Kim to Snoop to MOP to whoever. nikkas remade his shyt, sampled his shyt, quoted his shyt... but we askin' how he's a G.O.A.T??
bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
Rakim has one dope album,his first one.
I am is better than any other rakim album.
You wanna pretend rakim was popping as long as nas,lmao
Spice 1's first 3 albums > rakim's easy too
T.he I.nformant
1st Ballot HOF Teller
Not questioning his GOAT status; just pondering why/how he fell off
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
I love Latina women
Veteran
GnauzBookOfRhymes
Superstar
maybe his heart is not into it? consumers/fans ask wayy too much of their heroes. we ask athletes and other performers to stay past their prime and then shyt on them when they can't recreate the same magic in their 30s/40s as what they produced when they were teens and in their 20s.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
people keep bringing up nas as if hes some sort of pillar of longevity; but the only reason i still pay attention to the bul is because i post on the coli. nas aint really been a factor musically since 2003.
i dont even like listening to rappers once they get too far past their prime. save that for the cheerleading dudes.
if its one of my all-time favs, i'll support some of their stuff off GP but i usually just give em 1 spin and move on.
i dont even like listening to rappers once they get too far past their prime. save that for the cheerleading dudes.
if its one of my all-time favs, i'll support some of their stuff off GP but i usually just give em 1 spin and move on.
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JayBaldacci
All Star
all Ra's albums with eric b were 4mics to classic. i am isn't better than any ra album besides the master and seventh seal. the only thing you can say about Ra is that some of his fans think he was the only one to advance rapping which isn't true.