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House Speaker Ryan says contested Republican convention more likely
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The people who thought Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio were the future of America and couldn't form effective resistance to trump in 10 months are gonna organize to shut him down with draconian parliamentary procedure were any mistake can ruin the entire process.
These people think real life is fukking house of cards when it's actually veep.
These people think real life is fukking house of cards when it's actually veep.
it is real life house of cards..trump is just playing a different hand than everyone else. its like bernie and trump both have royal flushes but Trump has a higher ranking suit so hes winning and sanders is in more peril..politics has been dirtier than this in the past and thats a fact. perot got chased off because his daughter got death threats or somethin like that in 92 or 96 i believe..
Rubio has a bunch of delegates and won Minnesota/PR so he has a more important role at a convention than Kasich does unless Kasich wins outright and/or surpasses Cruz's delegate total in the meantime. His delegates are unbound now and will just flock to Cruz. Thats the big $ and if they all pledged behind the scenes to Cruz then Cruz is damn near tied with Donald (all unbound delegates by this point other than Ben's few that will go against Trump).
With that said..Ryan is between a rock and a hard place. He got forced into Speakership essentially and may get forced into this convention garbage..maybe he's earning his stripes for 2020 or 2024.
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
Domingo Halliburton
Handmade in USA
Season 3 kind of sucked.
I'm praying for this to happen...
The fukkery will be unprecedented since Lincoln....
breh trump is unstable. they might do it to preserve the integrity of the party even if it means sacrificing the election. getting behind trump and having to spin every one of his gaffes from now to november might have worse long term effects. they've already lost minorities for a generation, they might lose women too if they get behind this fool.
Its a winless situation at this point imo. You run trump you almost definitely lose and his supporters blame the GOP. No telling how that goes. You steal the nomination you piss off atleast 2/3s of your voters and you have truly rabid trump supporters there and going forward. You still almost definetly lose the election because trump die hards won't vote for your guy.
The only possibly ok way this goes is Trump ends up short of the absolute majority and a consensus candidate with trump's backing is selected.
Slim
Superstar
Can someone educate me here because I'm not knowledgeable enough int his area. If let's say:
1. GOP "steals" the nom from Trump
2. Gives it to Cruz/Kasich
3. Trump runs Independent
4. Dem vs. GOP vs. Trump in the General and nobody get's 270 -- this is the biggest unlikely but work with me.
5. Does the Senate then get to appoint the President -- which would mean President Cruz or Kasich?
1. GOP "steals" the nom from Trump
2. Gives it to Cruz/Kasich
3. Trump runs Independent
4. Dem vs. GOP vs. Trump in the General and nobody get's 270 -- this is the biggest unlikely but work with me.
5. Does the Senate then get to appoint the President -- which would mean President Cruz or Kasich?
House does. This is very unlikely though because I doubt trump takes enough votes from democrats for Hiliary to not win states like NC, VA, FL, Nevada, Georgia, even Texas.
Result would be a dem landslide in the rlevtoral college and probably a 45-35-20 race in the popular vote.
Very unlikely tho because to get the ballot access for an independent run is crazy, and purposefully, hard. Trump could run on the Constitution party ticket as well as a host of other hard right parties' tickets and get on some ballots tho. That's his best shot
NaijaProdigy Redux
Veteran
Real life House of Cards 
i can't see that last scenario happening just b/c of all the money he's spent. spend millions to voluntarily step aside for a candidate who can't draw a quarter of his crowds - where does he win in that deal? i think they will try to force him to pick an establishment VP with some clout to bring some respectability to the ticket. a woman or ex-military.
I don't see how they can and still win. Trump could go third party. Thats a Republican loss. And even if Trump doesn't go thrid party, his supporters would sit the race out. That's also a Republican loss. It's possible the party establishment views a loss under either circumstance as acceptable, though.
I think there ready to throw out the towel and do whatever they can to prevent trump from winning.
If trump gets nominated that's a L
If trumps loses the nomination and goes independant that splits the republican vote and whoever they nominate has no chance
There ready to give up 2016 to right the ship and come back hard in 2020.
No matter what if trump becomes president he's screws up that party so much there's no return from that