Houston Rockets fans, is it time to start looking at Darryl Morey?

[Da King]

Rockets fans they were taking the GOAT franchise spot before the season started :duncan:

 

[duckbutta]

Rockets still aren't fully healthy DMo, Beverley and Dwight is gonna be in & out all year. That doesn't excuse the players lack of effort on defense. I think it's time for McHale to go. Tom Thibodeau would bring a defensive mindset to the team and hopefully change the offense to where it's not so predictable.

Every team knows the Rockets want to drive and kick for the 3 especially the corner 3. When the Rockets are driving this year teams are digging in the paint and getting to that corner becuz they know that's where the pass is going to go the majority of the time. Plus only Harden and Ty can create their own offense. There is no deadly 3pt shooter on the team even though the Rockets shoot the 3 more than most teams.

I hope something is going on behind the scenes in the locker room becuz it's no other reason why they just are playing with passion, effort or want to. They're 4-7 so this can turn around with the team getting healthy and just giving a damn on the court instead of the post game interviews.

You got a max salary big man with chronic knee issues...and you want Tom Thibodeau to coach him

You got a drunk for a point guard and a club hopping Kardashian dating dude for a shooting guard and you want Tom Thibodeau to coach him

Thibs "not" running a predictable offense......did you not watch those years the bulls were around last in every offensive category

There needs to be a thread about why people are so high on Thibs because I just don't get it...he has done exactly two noteworthy things in the nba...the first one was orchestrate the defense that overprotects the strong side of the court (and you actually need defensive minded nba players to do this...like what he had in boston and chi...houston as currently constructed has absolutely NO CHANCE at running a defense like this) which is great but he is not hte first guy to come up with a great defensive scheme...the second is ruining Derrick Rose career...

 

[Reid2Achieve]

Rockets still aren't fully healthy DMo, Beverley and Dwight is gonna be in & out all year. That doesn't excuse the players lack of effort on defense. I think it's time for McHale to go. Tom Thibodeau would bring a defensive mindset to the team and hopefully change the offense to where it's not so predictable.

Every team knows the Rockets want to drive and kick for the 3 especially the corner 3. When the Rockets are driving this year teams are digging in the paint and getting to that corner becuz they know that's where the pass is going to go the majority of the time. Plus only Harden and Ty can create their own offense. There is no deadly 3pt shooter on the team even though the Rockets shoot the 3 more than most teams.

I hope something is going on behind the scenes in the locker room becuz it's no other reason why they just are playing with passion, effort or want to. They're 4-7 so this can turn around with the team getting healthy and just giving a damn on the court instead of the post game interviews.

There is no way Thibodeau and Morey can co-exist.

 

[GoldenGlove]

There is no way Thibodeau and Morey can co-exist.

Please, make this happen Morey.

 

[Tha_Mac]

You got a max salary big man with chronic knee issues...and you want Tom Thibodeau to coach him

You got a drunk for a point guard and a club hopping Kardashian dating dude for a shooting guard and you want Tom Thibodeau to coach him

Thibs "not" running a predictable offense......did you not watch those years the bulls were around last in every offensive category

There needs to be a thread about why people are so high on Thibs because I just don't get it...he has done exactly two noteworthy things in the nba...the first one was orchestrate the defense that overprotects the strong side of the court (and you actually need defensive minded nba players to do this...like what he had in boston and chi...houston as currently constructed has absolutely NO CHANCE at running a defense like this) which is great but he is not hte first guy to come up with a great defensive scheme...the second is ruining Derrick Rose career...

Offense should be okay with a different philosophy and some actual structure it's the defense that needs to be fixed. And the player's attitudes. I mean they've got a "player's coach" who obviously isn't too hard on them and you see how it's going now. They had a great run last year and have progressed the last few years but now someone needs to come in and take them past the hump.

Thibs is gonna demand effort, demand defensive intensity and that's exactly what this team needs. You can have someone manage Thibs in the player minutes department.

But before last season I never thought McHale was the right coach for this team. Last year though I had to eat my words becuz the team responded to McHale all the time. The Rockets started slow in 1st quarters a lot last year. McHale would call an early time out and the team responded but going on big runs which led to double digit 1st quarter leads which led to the Rockets holding on to win.

They're not responding to McHale this year. I don't know if they've quit on him but his message isn't getting through. Maybe a different voice is needed.

 

[GoldenGlove]

I honestly don't know how McHale survived this play





What was discussed in the huddle prior to this play? Anything?

 

[Populair]

Thread has some credence to it. You can't keep operating under the assumption that talent alone on paper is going to trump & prevail over obvious personnel clashes, and character issues... But there's just so much blame to go around with this team I don't even know where to start.

I've had my chance to watch some Rocket games this season and...... I had previously with obvious biases (because they're my team) anointed the Bulls from last year as the most frustrating team that I've ever seen when taken into account the talent in comparison to the actual result of what you see on a night-to-night basis.... This current Rockets team is flat out disgusting to watch.

It seems like Mchale doesn't have not one offensive set that isn't either predicated on an iso, or either "the drive & kick out to a 3 point shooter" game. Teams are seeing their crap brand of basketball and are closing out on their 3 point shooters faster to combat them chucking up 3's. Teams are forming a wall around whatever Rockets' player is 'iso-ing' - which is rather easy because the other players are completely stagnant and without movement.... This type of play is why you've seen the ridiculous comebacks at their expense. It's why you've seen them get blown out frequently this year - their style of play isn't really conducive to winning and when you do take away what they do well (Iso's & drive and kick), they don't have another wrinkle in their offensive gameplan to fall back on

Their effort on defense.... My God.... They've all collectively followed their leader Harden (sans Howard) right off the cliff on that end and simply stop giving a fukk.

My dude, who's a Rockets fan, had the nerve to ask me if Thibs could turn this team around ? Thibs would lose the few strands of hair that he has left on the top of his head dealing with these sorry, pathetic, sap of a bytch made prima-dona bunch - besides, I told him that Thibs' disciplinary, make no excuse, style of coaching is the reason why Howard never had the Bulls on his destination when he demanded a trade from Orlando originally.

I really don't know what they could do to fix what they got going on. Everybody -- from the coach, to the players, to the GM, seems to be very much stuck in their ways....

Now watch this dude Morey try to add another 'star' to an already combustible bunch, which will not do a damn thing because the team is just fukkin' flawed in more ways then one.

 

[who_better_than_me]

How mchale continues to bypass all the blame will forever mystify me.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Rockets still aren't fully healthy DMo, Beverley and Dwight is gonna be in & out all year. That doesn't excuse the players lack of effort on defense. I think it's time for McHale to go. Tom Thibodeau would bring a defensive mindset to the team and hopefully change the offense to where it's not so predictable.

Every team knows the Rockets want to drive and kick for the 3 especially the corner 3. When the Rockets are driving this year teams are digging in the paint and getting to that corner becuz they know that's where the pass is going to go the majority of the time. Plus only Harden and Ty can create their own offense. There is no deadly 3pt shooter on the team even though the Rockets shoot the 3 more than most teams.

I hope something is going on behind the scenes in the locker room becuz it's no other reason why they just are playing with passion, effort or want to. They're 4-7 so this can turn around with the team getting healthy and just giving a damn on the court instead of the post game interviews.

Y'all got the MVP tho.

 

[ahomeplateslugger]

they're one of the worst defensive teams in the league, don't work well together offensively and shoot a lot of 3's but can't hit any to save their life. plus harden spent more time partying than working on his game in the off-season I doubt Beverly can change them from one of the worst to contender too. Nothing McHale can really do with this team right now. rockets will just need harden to step his game up and play like the mvp runner up again.

I honestly don't know how McHale survived this play





What was discussed in the huddle prior to this play? Anything?

I remember watching this game in Portland and that city was lit when lilliard hit that

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

McHale is the fukking problem. Real talk.

Im sick of this shyt

 

[Tha_Mac]

Y'all got the MVP tho.

Most Vibrant Partier

 

[duckbutta]

Offense should be okay with a different philosophy and some actual structure it's the defense that needs to be fixed. And the player's attitudes. I mean they've got a "player's coach" who obviously isn't too hard on them and you see how it's going now. They had a great run last year and have progressed the last few years but now someone needs to come in and take them past the hump.

Thibs is gonna demand effort, demand defensive intensity and that's exactly what this team needs. You can have someone manage Thibs in the player minutes department.

But before last season I never thought McHale was the right coach for this team. Last year though I had to eat my words becuz the team responded to McHale all the time. The Rockets started slow in 1st quarters a lot last year. McHale would call an early time out and the team responded but going on big runs which led to double digit 1st quarter leads which led to the Rockets holding on to win.

They're not responding to McHale this year. I don't know if they've quit on him but his message isn't getting through. Maybe a different voice is needed.

Just brining in Thibs isn't going to fix your defense. You need a different set of players than what you have to do that. Bringing in Thibs is definitely going to kill your offense, because you do not have the type of players who would excel in thibs grind it out half court offense positions. Maybe you get an assistant coach who is great offensively...but Thibs never did that in Chicago so I don't see why he would anywhere else

The players on your team have only ever responded to players coaches so what makes you think they are going to respond to a hard ass coach like Thibs. It was all fun and games in Orlando until Stan became a bit of a hard ass and then boom, Dwight wanted him gone and ran to LA. Then in LA there was the pressure from the fans, pressure from Kobe, pressure of being the next great laker center...booom Dwight left. Harden played for Scott Brooks, a players coach. He has played for Mchale, a players coach. It was all fun and games in Denver with Lawson until Shaw got there and tried to be hard ass and then boom...they are getting into it. Management didn't even give him the chance to get into it with Mike Malone, shipped his ass out for pennies on the dollar.

So your three main players have either all butted heads with hard nosed coaches or outright never had a hard nosed coach...and the answer to houston's problems is go and get a hard nosed coach?

 

[duckbutta]

There is no way Thibodeau and Morey can co-exist.

Imagine Morey telling Thibs...Hey Thibs I signed Josh Smith...yeah...yeah that Josh Smith...right the one that Detriot released...yeah...yeah I am certain it's that one there isn't any other one...well him and Dwight are best friends so...

 

[Tha_Mac]

Just brining in Thibs isn't going to fix your defense. You need a different set of players than what you have to do that. Bringing in Thibs is definitely going to kill your offense, because you do not have the type of players who would excel in thibs grind it out half court offense positions. Maybe you get an assistant coach who is great offensively...but Thibs never did that in Chicago so I don't see why he would anywhere else

The players on your team have only ever responded to players coaches so what makes you think they are going to respond to a hard ass coach like Thibs. It was all fun and games in Orlando until Stan became a bit of a hard ass and then boom, Dwight wanted him gone and ran to LA. Then in LA there was the pressure from the fans, pressure from Kobe, pressure of being the next great laker center...booom Dwight left. Harden played for Scott Brooks, a players coach. He has played for Mchale, a players coach. It was all fun and games in Denver with Lawson until Shaw got there and tried to be hard ass and then boom...they are getting into it. Management didn't even give him the chance to get into it with Mike Malone, shipped his ass out for pennies on the dollar.

So your three main players have either all butted heads with hard nosed coaches or outright never had a hard nosed coach...and the answer to houston's problems is go and get a hard nosed coach?

They not responding to their player's coach right now. And Thibs might not be the answer but I believe McHale still has to go. Hire another coach that can get to the players just make sure he can make in game adjustments knows late game situations and has some pedigree of being in the playoffs.