You must remember that in the bizzaro world of Coli, albums like Nastradamus, Untitled and Street Disciples are viewed as great albums
Same bizzaro world that views BP3..BP2..VOL 2..KC..WTT as great albums
its all fair
How can you say Nas isn't the greatest?
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Same bizzaro world that views BP3..BP2..VOL 2..KC..WTT as great albums
its all fair
Iight iight.. now how u want it done?
The tux or the toolie.
I'll do it with the tux
Not even 2 sentences in and you already start talkin that dumb nikka Nas stannery shyt.
Nas stands toe to toe with Jay as far as accomplishments, longevity and relevance??
Are u fukking insane ma dude? Jay is leagues above Nas when it comes to relevancy times longevity.
And accomplishments?? You have the audacity to say that Nas shares the same amount of accomplishments as Hov? What df was u sippin on when u typed that bullsht.
Im sure even ur fellow Nas stans arent dumb enough to agree with such a delusional statement.
I could end it right here but lets move along.
Your whole argument about Nas being the greatest because he kicks what u like to call "knowledge" is comedic at best.
And the way you try and connect that to say that Nas is more relatable and mark that as a point for Nas is borderline delusional.
I can guarantee you more people were able to relate to WTT than DR.
Why? Because at the end of the day Jay represents what a majority of hip hop fans desire. The whole ice cold hustler is what a majority of hip hop fans wish to be like.
Now whether thats negative or positive isnt the issue.
Rather that more people relate and rock with Hov than they do Nas.
The proof is in the pudding B
And your whole substance argument which all ur fellow Nas stans like to pull is again comedic at best. Because like I said Jay raps about his past, his life and how he's better than other rappers..and when he's kicking knowledge, its knowledge on how to be successful and be a successful hustler which is something he's really about. Discrediting the man for being himself on tracks is not only reaching, its tasteless.
Nas' career cant compare to Hov's and the only thing you Nas stans are left with are fickle unpopular opinions of discography comparisons, objectifying of mere subject matter preferences, and ur tight bubble standards of what u call lyricism.
Nothing concrete.
You have no concrete basis to say Nas is GOAT at all.
While we Jay stans continue to hit u with truth after truth, stat after stat to get it through ur thick heads that Nas can not and will never be able to compare to Hov.
At all.
Nas needed Takeover to live, you Nas stans prove that everyday when the way u keep him relevant on this board is as an antagonist to Jay.
Nas can never be compared to Hov.
When u accept that..then maybe the stanning will stop
Maybe
cant believe THIS is your comeback to him..
This like Blueprint 2 response
H.O.V.A OH BEHAVE
Iight iight.. now how u want it done?
The tux or the toolie.
I'll do it with the tux
Not even 2 sentences in and you already start talkin that dumb nikka Nas stannery shyt.
Nas stands toe to toe with Jay as far as accomplishments, longevity and relevance??
Are u fukking insane ma dude? Jay is leagues above Nas when it comes to relevancy times longevity.
And accomplishments?? You have the audacity to say that Nas shares the same amount of accomplishments as Hov? What df was u sippin on when u typed that bullsht.
Im sure even ur fellow Nas stans arent dumb enough to agree with such a delusional statement.
I could end it right here but lets move along.
Your whole argument about Nas being the greatest because he kicks what u like to call "knowledge" is comedic at best.
And the way you try and connect that to say that Nas is more relatable and mark that as a point for Nas is borderline delusional.
I can guarantee you more people were able to relate to WTT than DR.
Why? Because at the end of the day Jay represents what a majority of hip hop fans desire. The whole ice cold hustler is what a majority of hip hop fans wish to be like.
Now whether thats negative or positive isnt the issue.
Rather that more people relate and rock with Hov than they do Nas.
The proof is in the pudding B
And your whole substance argument which all ur fellow Nas stans like to pull is again comedic at best. Because like I said Jay raps about his past, his life and how he's better than other rappers..and when he's kicking knowledge, its knowledge on how to be successful and be a successful hustler which is something he's really about. Discrediting the man for being himself on tracks is not only reaching, its tasteless.
Nas' career cant compare to Hov's and the only thing you Nas stans are left with are fickle unpopular opinions of discography comparisons, objectifying of mere subject matter preferences, and ur tight bubble standards of what u call lyricism.
Nothing concrete.
You have no concrete basis to say Nas is GOAT at all.
While we Jay stans continue to hit u with truth after truth, stat after stat to get it through ur thick heads that Nas can not and will never be able to compare to Hov.
At all.
Nas needed Takeover to live, you Nas stans prove that everyday when the way u keep him relevant on this board is as an antagonist to Jay.
Nas can never be compared to Hov.
When u accept that..then maybe the stanning will stop
Maybe
THIS is the BEST you could with against ME bruh?? I don't even need to loosen up the tie...
Here we go
Nas stands toe to toe with Jay as far as accomplishments, longevity and relevance??
Nas as far as relevance, actually predates Jay-Z by what.. 4 years? EVERYBODY in Hip Hop was anticipating great things from Nas since the first verse he spit on Live At The Barbeque. His debut album, Illmatic is considered widely to be the GREATEST Hip Hop album of all time. Steve Stoute was so enamored by Illmatic that he drove out to the projects just to find him
"No one could get into contact with him. Nas has always been uncomfortable with being famous and accessible. Nas makes music because he loves music, not because he wants the trappings of music, such as fame. I had to go find him. I had to go to the Queensbridge projects and ask around for him"- Steve Stoute
Interview: Steve Stoute Talks About Working With Jay-Z, Nas, and "The Tanning of America" | Complex
In contrast, NOBODY was enamored with Jay-Z early on enough to even get him a deal, while Nas's pure talent for lyricism inspired Faith Newman to such a degree that she wouldn't allow MC Serch to leave Columbia offices without a deal on the table, Jay-Z was scrapping by as Jaz-O's sidekick
Still, this is no overnight success story. Although Jay's first taste of the music biz was back in 1988, things didn't exactly take off right then. "I did a verse on this song 'Hawaiian Sophie' and that's how I got my start. A friend of mine named Jazz introduces me to the entertainment business, and looking back, I was pretty much grateful for the opportunity to be put on. Too bad, things didn't pick up like they should have after that, so I kept hustlin'. But, in every interview I gotta thank Jazz for looking out"
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Though he wanted more of the business, it didn't seem to want more of him--not just yet, anyway. Several years passed before he was ready to expend the type of sweat and sacrifice that goes along with acquiring anything worth having. In 1993, he and Dash peddled the single "In My Lifetime" from the trunk of his car like fake Rolex salesmen, until Payday Records caught the vapors from the hype this underground hit had caused. "They [Payday] eventually signed me to a deal, but were acting shady the whole time, like they didn't know how to work a record or something," says Jay. "The things that they were setting up for me I could have done myself. They had me traveling places to do instores, and my product wasn't even available in the store. We shot one video, but when the time came for me to do the video for the second single, I had to be cut out. They gave me the money and I started my own company. There was a little arguing back and forth, but our conflict finally got resolved. The bottom line was they wasn't doing their job, so I had to get out of there."- Jay-Z
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For the record, Illmatic was rushed to retail to combat MASSIVE bootlegging. Anticipation for the album was so high 60,000 bootleg copies were discovered BEFORE the albums release.
In the years leading up to the album’s release, the streets were so thirsty for Nas material that enterprising DJs started putting album cuts on street mixtapes and playing the songs on college radio.
In fact, MC Serch once claimed they found a garage filled with 60,000 bootleg Illmatic albums before the album’s release. That’s why Columbia rushed the Illmatic's release in ’94 and dropped their original plan of making it a larger, longer project.
10 Things You Didn't Know About Nas' "Illmatic" | Complex
With all of this, Illmatic managed to debut at No. 12 on Billboard Charts, selling 59K first week, in comparison Jay-Z's debut Reasonable Doubt, DESPITE including famous guest appearances like Biggie, Mary J.Blidge and Foxy Brown, DESPITE several flashy high budget videos, and DESPITE following Illmatic's blueprint of including several top notch producers, only debuted at number.23. Both albums went Gold within two years of their respective releases and both albums took upwards of 7 years to be certified Platinum.
So in retrospect
Nas's buzz (I.e. "relevance" began at a time when Jay-Z was struggling to get in the door, Nas released a universally acclaimed Hip Hop classic at a time when Jay-Z was still a broke hustler.
Nas debut album charted higher, was more heavily anticipated, and was more critically renowned at time of release than Jiggas was
Illmatic- 5 Mics, instant classic
RD- 4 Mics, above average but nothing growned breaking (until years later when Jay used his status to "force" the status quo that it was an under appreciated classic)
#TPC
Moving on...
I can guarantee you more people were able to relate to WTT than DR.
Why? Because at the end of the day Jay represents what a majority of hip hop fans desire. The whole ice cold hustler is what a majority of hip hop fans wish to be like.
You called my opinions bullshyt and bit based upon fact and then you turn around and make a statement that PURELY based upon your own opinion. Most Hip Hop listeners have a desire to be an ice cold hustler? They RELATE to that?? I'm inclined to counter that MOST Hip Hop listeners have regular 9-5's, attend school, have significant others, and are more than likely satisfied with being upstanding members of society. Now I'd be remiss not to say that Hip Hop doesn't offer a form of escapism or fantasy, but again, that is FANTASY, most of us CANNOT relate to such topics of moving Kilos of cocaine from St.Thomas (this goes for both Jay-Z and Nas) but what we CAN relate to (as African Americans) is the experiences that are faced when dealing racism, discrimination, bigotry, struggle, and the quest for cultural identity.
Why Black People Can Use the N-Word: A Perspective « Word. The Online Journal on African American English
Again, as stated before, the themes that Nas speaks about and the thoughts regarding those themes elicits reactions, debate, and discussion in forums BEYOND the genre, this is just as important, if not MORE important than white America joyously singing along to nikkas In Paris
Nas' 'Untitled' spurs campus discussion
Nas' 'Untitled' spurs campus discussion - CollegiateTimes.com
Nas's lyrical influence has so inspired and extended an appreciation for the culture that renowned scholars have written about the poetic genius of his lyrics
In Born to Use Mics, Michael Eric Dyson and Sohail Daulatzai have brought together renowned writers and critics including Mark Anthony Neal, Marc Lamont Hill, Eddie S. Glaude, Jr., and many others to confront Illmatic song by song, with each scholar assessing an individual track from the album. The result is a brilliant engagement with and commentary upon one of the most incisive sets of songs ever laid down on wax.
Born to Use Mics: Reading Nas's Illmatic by Dyson, Michael Eric; Daulatzai, Sohail: Basic Civitas Books 9780465002115 Paperback - Callseller Books
Also we can go by fellow artists and peers who relate to Nas more and say he's the GOAT
Common
“Nas is so poetic with it and I feel like his lyrics, you can write ‘em down on paper and they will last for time. It would be like literature that we read,” said Common, whose new album The Dreamer, The Believer is due November 22
Rap-Up.com || Common: Nas Is the Best Rapper Alive
Kendrick Lamar
Illmatic? For people to even put my album in the light of that, is an accomplishment. It’s crazy to even be mentioned with it but it’s scary at the same time,” he said. “That era – I wanna say the age range now would be 30, 30 to 40 – they can recognize this was the album. Illmatic’s the album for the ’90s era when I was growing up. The stories he was telling was something I can relate to. From the response, just from the leak…these kids out here, they’re all saying the same thing: this is the feel for this era…it’s just a weird feeling to be in that same type of light, ‘cus it takes a whole lot of responsibility to keep that up in the long run and longevity, and that’s something I don’t have yet…so Illmatic will always be #1 .”
Kendrick Lamar Says Nas’ ‘Illmatic’ Album Will Always Be Number 1 In Comparison To ‘Good Kid, m.A.A.d. City’ | The Versed
Blu
DX: Blu, what still surprises you about Hip Hop?
Blu: That Nas is still the illest, bro. That shyt is mad surprising. After all these years; after Rick Ross, Drake, Jay Electronica, all these nikkas - that [Life Is Good] came out and he's still the illest. That's the most surprising shyt ever.
Blu & Exile Talk About "Flowers," Premature Releases, And Blu's Failed Run-In With Nas | Rappers Talk Hip Hop Beef & Old School Hip Hop | HipHop DX
Drake
"I really studied Nas to be honest, Nas was like somebody that I used to listen to his raps and not really understand 'how' he did it, I always wanted to understand how he painted those pictures and his bar structure and all of that."
Drake On "Thank Me Later" Debut, "I Went Back & Really Studied Nas" [Video] | SOHH.COM
Alicia Keys
She was recently put in the hot seat during her visit to Baltimore’s 92Q Jams, and asked whether she thinks Nas or Jay-Z is a better rapper. “I will say Nas,” she told iiKane. “Obviously they’re both incredible lyrically, but Nas for me really goes to a place where he’s able to access concepts and storylines that most people wouldn’t be able to pull together.”
Rap-Up.com || Alicia Keys Promotes App at Apple Store
J.Cole
"When I met him, I tried to give him like extra props - like I tried to bow down in his presence."
J. Cole Talks About Meeting Nas, Wishes To Make Full Collaborative Album | Get The Latest Hip Hop News, Rap News & Hip Hop Album Sales | HipHop DX
Jay Electronica
"Nas is one of the gods, one of the greatest of all time, one of the godfathers of even my own style,” he said. “I met him on a humble submission and he is one of the greatest ever"
MissInfo.tv » Jay Electronica Labels Nas As “One of the Godfathers of My Style”
And Finally, your Boy Jay-Z
"Like I said, it's always been a level of respect there. I, for not one second, ever said I don't believe that he's one of the best lyricists ever"
"Right away, I gained a whole level of respect [for Nas]. Not many people come back after ["Takeover"]. That was like a figure-four leg-lock — I mean, you can't get out of that. You can't escape that one. It was like, OK — that whole level of respect"
MTVNews.com: Jay-Z & Nas
"Competition for me competition is Nas, Eminem. Like Jim Jones? That’s ridiculous to me."
Read more: RealTalk NY
Jay sat with a roomfull of friends, including Usher, arguing about who are the top five MCs of the 80s and the 90s. (From the 80s Jay said #1 Rakim, #2 KRS-One, #3 Big Daddy Kane, #4 Kool G Rap, and #5 LL Cool J, and from the 90s #1 Biggie, #2 Tupac, #3 Nas, #4 Ice Cube, and #5 Scarface
Jay-Z in Rolling Stone
"I'm From Where nikkas pull your card/and argue all day about whose the best MC's Biggie, Jay-Z, AND NAS"
Nas needed Takeover to live, you Nas stans prove that everyday when the way u keep him relevant on this board is as an antagonist to Jay.
Nas, who had TWO platinum albums in the SAME YEAR needed a DISS SONG to survive? I Am sold more than Vol.3 in its first week (470k to 462k) and both went Double Platinum, while Nastradamus went plat. So your telling me that an artist whose last two albums went platinum needed a diss to reignite his popularity
#TPC represent!
I can guarantee you more people were able to relate to WTT than DR.
Why? Because at the end of the day Jay represents what a majority of hip hop fans desire. The whole ice cold hustler is what a majority of hip hop fans wish to be like.
You called my opinions bullshyt and bit based upon fact and then you turn around and make a statement that PURELY based upon your own opinion. Most Hip Hop listeners have a desire to be an ice cold hustler? They RELATE to that?? I'm inclined to counter that MOST Hip Hop listeners have regular 9-5's, attend school, have significant others, and are more than likely satisfied with being upstanding members of society. Now I'd be remiss not to say that Hip Hop doesn't offer a form of escapism or fantasy, but again, that is FANTASY, most of us CANNOT relate to such topics of moving Kilos of cocaine from St.Thomas (this goes for both Jay-Z and Nas) but what we CAN relate to (as African Americans) is the experiences that are faced when dealing racism, discrimination, bigotry, struggle, and the quest for cultural identity.
Why Black People Can Use the N-Word: A Perspective « Word. The Online Journal on African American English
Again, as stated before, the themes that Nas speaks about and the thoughts regarding those themes elicits reactions, debate, and discussion in forums BEYOND the genre, this is just as important, if not MORE important than white America joyously singing along to nikkas In Paris
Nas' 'Untitled' spurs campus discussion
Nas' 'Untitled' spurs campus discussion - CollegiateTimes.com
Nas's lyrical influence has so inspired and extended an appreciation for the culture that renowned scholars have written about the poetic genius of his lyrics
In Born to Use Mics, Michael Eric Dyson and Sohail Daulatzai have brought together renowned writers and critics including Mark Anthony Neal, Marc Lamont Hill, Eddie S. Glaude, Jr., and many others to confront Illmatic song by song, with each scholar assessing an individual track from the album. The result is a brilliant engagement with and commentary upon one of the most incisive sets of songs ever laid down on wax.
Born to Use Mics: Reading Nas's Illmatic by Dyson, Michael Eric; Daulatzai, Sohail: Basic Civitas Books 9780465002115 Paperback - Callseller Books
Also we can go by fellow artists and peers who relate to Nas more and say he's the GOAT
Common
“Nas is so poetic with it and I feel like his lyrics, you can write ‘em down on paper and they will last for time. It would be like literature that we read,” said Common, whose new album The Dreamer, The Believer is due November 22
Rap-Up.com || Common: Nas Is the Best Rapper Alive
Kendrick Lamar
Illmatic? For people to even put my album in the light of that, is an accomplishment. It’s crazy to even be mentioned with it but it’s scary at the same time,” he said. “That era – I wanna say the age range now would be 30, 30 to 40 – they can recognize this was the album. Illmatic’s the album for the ’90s era when I was growing up. The stories he was telling was something I can relate to. From the response, just from the leak…these kids out here, they’re all saying the same thing: this is the feel for this era…it’s just a weird feeling to be in that same type of light, ‘cus it takes a whole lot of responsibility to keep that up in the long run and longevity, and that’s something I don’t have yet…so Illmatic will always be #1 .”
Kendrick Lamar Says Nas’ ‘Illmatic’ Album Will Always Be Number 1 In Comparison To ‘Good Kid, m.A.A.d. City’ | The Versed
Blu
DX: Blu, what still surprises you about Hip Hop?
Blu: That Nas is still the illest, bro. That shyt is mad surprising. After all these years; after Rick Ross, Drake, Jay Electronica, all these nikkas - that [Life Is Good] came out and he's still the illest. That's the most surprising shyt ever.
Blu & Exile Talk About "Flowers," Premature Releases, And Blu's Failed Run-In With Nas | Rappers Talk Hip Hop Beef & Old School Hip Hop | HipHop DX
Drake
"I really studied Nas to be honest, Nas was like somebody that I used to listen to his raps and not really understand 'how' he did it, I always wanted to understand how he painted those pictures and his bar structure and all of that."
Drake On "Thank Me Later" Debut, "I Went Back & Really Studied Nas" [Video] | SOHH.COM
Alicia Keys
She was recently put in the hot seat during her visit to Baltimore’s 92Q Jams, and asked whether she thinks Nas or Jay-Z is a better rapper. “I will say Nas,” she told iiKane. “Obviously they’re both incredible lyrically, but Nas for me really goes to a place where he’s able to access concepts and storylines that most people wouldn’t be able to pull together.”
Rap-Up.com || Alicia Keys Promotes App at Apple Store
J.Cole
"When I met him, I tried to give him like extra props - like I tried to bow down in his presence."
J. Cole Talks About Meeting Nas, Wishes To Make Full Collaborative Album | Get The Latest Hip Hop News, Rap News & Hip Hop Album Sales | HipHop DX
Jay Electronica
"Nas is one of the gods, one of the greatest of all time, one of the godfathers of even my own style,” he said. “I met him on a humble submission and he is one of the greatest ever"
MissInfo.tv » Jay Electronica Labels Nas As “One of the Godfathers of My Style”
And Finally, your Boy Jay-Z
"Like I said, it's always been a level of respect there. I, for not one second, ever said I don't believe that he's one of the best lyricists ever"
"Right away, I gained a whole level of respect [for Nas]. Not many people come back after ["Takeover"]. That was like a figure-four leg-lock — I mean, you can't get out of that. You can't escape that one. It was like, OK — that whole level of respect"
MTVNews.com: Jay-Z & Nas
"Competition for me competition is Nas, Eminem. Like Jim Jones? That’s ridiculous to me."
Read more: RealTalk NY
Jay sat with a roomfull of friends, including Usher, arguing about who are the top five MCs of the 80s and the 90s. (From the 80s Jay said #1 Rakim, #2 KRS-One, #3 Big Daddy Kane, #4 Kool G Rap, and #5 LL Cool J, and from the 90s #1 Biggie, #2 Tupac, #3 Nas, #4 Ice Cube, and #5 Scarface
Jay-Z in Rolling Stone
"I'm From Where nikkas pull your card/and argue all day about whose the best MC's Biggie, Jay-Z, AND NAS"
Nas needed Takeover to live, you Nas stans prove that everyday when the way u keep him relevant on this board is as an antagonist to Jay.
Nas, who had TWO platinum albums in the SAME YEAR needed a DISS SONG to survive? I Am sold more than Vol.3 in its first week (470k to 462k) and both went Double Platinum, while Nastradamus went plat. So your telling me that an artist whose last two albums went platinum needed a diss to reignite his popularity
#TPC represent!
BlackZilla
M0derator
Nas vs Jay Z thread.
This is how Ether Day should've been
This is how Ether Day should've been
I think Nas is in contention for being the greatest if he's not it already. I personally still go with Pac as best all around MC. But Nas is the greatest lyricist to ever grace the mic. And that means just as much.
Moving on...
I can guarantee you more people were able to relate to WTT than DR.
Why? Because at the end of the day Jay represents what a majority of hip hop fans desire. The whole ice cold hustler is what a majority of hip hop fans wish to be like.
You called my opinions bullshyt and bit based upon fact and then you turn around and make a statement that PURELY based upon your own opinion. Most Hip Hop listeners have a desire to be an ice cold hustler? They RELATE to that?? I'm inclined to counter that MOST Hip Hop listeners have regular 9-5's, attend school, have significant others, and are more than likely satisfied with being upstanding members of society. Now I'd be remiss not to say that Hip Hop doesn't offer a form of escapism or fantasy, but again, that is FANTASY, most of us CANNOT relate to such topics of moving Kilos of cocaine from St.Thomas (this goes for both Jay-Z and Nas) but what we CAN relate to (as African Americans) is the experiences that are faced when dealing racism, discrimination, bigotry, struggle, and the quest for cultural identity.
Why Black People Can Use the N-Word: A Perspective « Word. The Online Journal on African American English
Again, as stated before, the themes that Nas speaks about and the thoughts regarding those themes elicits reactions, debate, and discussion in forums BEYOND the genre, this is just as important, if not MORE important than white America joyously singing along to nikkas In Paris
Nas' 'Untitled' spurs campus discussion
Nas' 'Untitled' spurs campus discussion - CollegiateTimes.com
Nas's lyrical influence has so inspired and extended an appreciation for the culture that renowned scholars have written about the poetic genius of his lyrics
In Born to Use Mics, Michael Eric Dyson and Sohail Daulatzai have brought together renowned writers and critics including Mark Anthony Neal, Marc Lamont Hill, Eddie S. Glaude, Jr., and many others to confront Illmatic song by song, with each scholar assessing an individual track from the album. The result is a brilliant engagement with and commentary upon one of the most incisive sets of songs ever laid down on wax.
Born to Use Mics: Reading Nas's Illmatic by Dyson, Michael Eric; Daulatzai, Sohail: Basic Civitas Books 9780465002115 Paperback - Callseller Books
Also we can go by fellow artists and peers who relate to Nas more and say he's the GOAT
Common
Nas is so poetic with it and I feel like his lyrics, you can write em down on paper and they will last for time. It would be like literature that we read, said Common, whose new album The Dreamer, The Believer is due November 22
Rap-Up.com || Common: Nas Is the Best Rapper Alive
Kendrick Lamar
Illmatic? For people to even put my album in the light of that, is an accomplishment. Its crazy to even be mentioned with it but its scary at the same time, he said. That era I wanna say the age range now would be 30, 30 to 40 they can recognize this was the album. Illmatics the album for the 90s era when I was growing up. The stories he was telling was something I can relate to. From the response, just from the leak these kids out here, theyre all saying the same thing: this is the feel for this era its just a weird feeling to be in that same type of light, cus it takes a whole lot of responsibility to keep that up in the long run and longevity, and thats something I dont have yet so Illmatic will always be #1 .
Kendrick Lamar Says Nas Illmatic Album Will Always Be Number 1 In Comparison To Good Kid, m.A.A.d. City | The Versed
Blu
DX: Blu, what still surprises you about Hip Hop?
Blu: That Nas is still the illest, bro. That shyt is mad surprising. After all these years; after Rick Ross, Drake, Jay Electronica, all these nikkas - that [Life Is Good] came out and he's still the illest. That's the most surprising shyt ever.
Blu & Exile Talk About "Flowers," Premature Releases, And Blu's Failed Run-In With Nas | Rappers Talk Hip Hop Beef & Old School Hip Hop | HipHop DX
Drake
"I really studied Nas to be honest, Nas was like somebody that I used to listen to his raps and not really understand 'how' he did it, I always wanted to understand how he painted those pictures and his bar structure and all of that."
Drake On "Thank Me Later" Debut, "I Went Back & Really Studied Nas" [Video] | SOHH.COM
Alicia Keys
She was recently put in the hot seat during her visit to Baltimores 92Q Jams, and asked whether she thinks Nas or Jay-Z is a better rapper. I will say Nas, she told iiKane. Obviously theyre both incredible lyrically, but Nas for me really goes to a place where hes able to access concepts and storylines that most people wouldnt be able to pull together.
Rap-Up.com || Alicia Keys Promotes App at Apple Store
J.Cole
"When I met him, I tried to give him like extra props - like I tried to bow down in his presence."
J. Cole Talks About Meeting Nas, Wishes To Make Full Collaborative Album | Get The Latest Hip Hop News, Rap News & Hip Hop Album Sales | HipHop DX
Jay Electronica
"Nas is one of the gods, one of the greatest of all time, one of the godfathers of even my own style, he said. I met him on a humble submission and he is one of the greatest ever"
MissInfo.tv » Jay Electronica Labels Nas As One of the Godfathers of My Style
And Finally, your Boy Jay-Z
"Like I said, it's always been a level of respect there. I, for not one second, ever said I don't believe that he's one of the best lyricists ever"
"Right away, I gained a whole level of respect [for Nas]. Not many people come back after ["Takeover"]. That was like a figure-four leg-lock I mean, you can't get out of that. You can't escape that one. It was like, OK that whole level of respect"
MTVNews.com: Jay-Z & Nas
"Competition for me competition is Nas, Eminem. Like Jim Jones? Thats ridiculous to me."
Read more: RealTalk NY
Jay sat with a roomfull of friends, including Usher, arguing about who are the top five MCs of the 80s and the 90s. (From the 80s Jay said #1 Rakim, #2 KRS-One, #3 Big Daddy Kane, #4 Kool G Rap, and #5 LL Cool J, and from the 90s #1 Biggie, #2 Tupac, #3 Nas, #4 Ice Cube, and #5 Scarface
Jay-Z in Rolling Stone
"I'm From Where nikkas pull your card/and argue all day about whose the best MC's Biggie, Jay-Z, AND NAS"
Nas needed Takeover to live, you Nas stans prove that everyday when the way u keep him relevant on this board is as an antagonist to Jay.
Nas, who had TWO platinum albums in the SAME YEAR needed a DISS SONG to survive? I Am sold more than Vol.3 in its first week (470k to 462k) and both went Double Platinum, while Nastradamus went plat. So your telling me that an artist whose last two albums went platinum needed a diss to reignite his popularity
nikkaz aint about all dat research work u puttin inI'll jus post this video and be on my way u can take the W
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I'll jus post this video and be on my way u can take the W
@Ziggiy u respect the worshipper I respect the worshipped,u seen the statues nikka.
Here are the part's where Nas mentions 'Pac: AllHipHop.com: How about you and Suge? A lot of people raised an eyebrow to that. Nas: I'll explain that now. Ninety percent of the rappers that's selling records now, maybe none of them -never looked Pac in the eye. Never drank a bottle of Henny with him. Never shook hands with him. Never felt his eyes on them. Never met him. Never knew Suge before PAC That's not me. I can't speak for the ones that hang with [Suge] now.
AllHipHop.com: What would make you want to take on the whole rap game? Nas: Because 95% of the rappers is fake thugs. Sixty-five to 75% [of rappers] are not talented and they kiss ass and are slaves to the system. Too much jealousy in the game. Too much fake-ism where nikkas ain't recording they shyt just being happy. We came out the streets already. If a nikka gets on the radio and says, 'if I see you I'ma do this,' its corny. I said 'Let me make it real again' since everybody is a gangster now and challenge the whole thing, which Tupac did -which he was genius for. We are just understanding their wrath and the methods to the madness now. Tupac was Jesus Christ. Now they can take that and run with it if they want to. Now, to me, that's who he was -F**k dat. A lot of people say 'why do you embrace PAC -F**k you.' He was a part of us. He was hip-hop. He was a soldier for war -period. Especially me.
When he called me a ring leader of all the East Coast rappers on Makeveli and made a song talking about me (pauses)... The greatest rapper makes a song, "Against All Odds (The realest sh*t I ever wrote)and he talks about Nas? Meanwhile he disrespects other rappers recklessly in all kinds of numerous records and he comes at Nas on this one, the last one? It's incredible to me. I feel a respect and I'm passionate to him. I recognize his genius while other nikkas front at him and look at him for the sensationalism that he brought because was mad at Biggie and get mad at PAC forever -it's stupid. Grow up. So, it was my thing to take over, sorta, one of the directions that he was going in, but I had my own direction. And because of the loss of my mom and because how phony fans can be, I took it into my own hands to f**k the w
Jcole calls 7th day theory the greatest album ever
YouTube
T.I calls 2pac the goat
[ame=http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HOpYCj7q0ac]Skip Bayless Stephen A. Smith on Greatest Rapper of All Time with T.I. HD - YouTube[/ame]
Kool G Rap calls Pac the Marvin Gaye of hiphop ie the goat
[ame=http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vY9JDEMBkmQ]Exclusive: Kool G. Rap Was Part Of The L.A. Riot With Tupac - YouTube[/ame]
The fans and the people have chosen 2pac as the goat
[ame=http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x9DrlgdUrnk]2Pac - Voted # 1 Rapper Of All Time (Greatest MC) - YouTube[/ame]
And whereas Nas is reluctant to call himself the best,Pac said he wuz not worried about the reaction of response of Rakim,KRS,Cube all of who had it in they tank still to put fire to his feet and he would've responded
[ame=http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FLmn8vuNoss]@3:00 Tupac - say's he would destroy Rakim,LL Cool J & Krs1 if they ever dissed him ! - YouTube[/ame]
We can also talk about how Pac murdered Nas on Thugz Mansion with a almost 10 yr old verse,which nas heard beforehand but had no answer for apparently.....u heard it yourself in the nas interview I posted....after pac died Nas felt it wuz his calling to take over where Pac left off and go at the rap game,we seen Hate Me Now,we remember the radio interview where he dissed the whole rap game....what wuz the result?he blames his mom,and fake fans for him apoligizing to Nelly,and Camron and the industry bcuz he "just wanted to live"....guess he couldn't carry that cross
he looked like he wuz struggling in the Hate me now video doin it,his knees wuz wobbly....meanwhile Pac had the cross on his back and wuz doin the George Jefferson walk while his enemies watched and the streets wiped sweat from his brow
and helped em carry it.
Here are the part's where Nas mentions 'Pac: AllHipHop.com: How about you and Suge? A lot of people raised an eyebrow to that. Nas: I'll explain that now. Ninety percent of the rappers that's selling records now, maybe none of them -never looked Pac in the eye. Never drank a bottle of Henny with him. Never shook hands with him. Never felt his eyes on them. Never met him. Never knew Suge before PAC That's not me. I can't speak for the ones that hang with [Suge] now.
AllHipHop.com: What would make you want to take on the whole rap game? Nas: Because 95% of the rappers is fake thugs. Sixty-five to 75% [of rappers] are not talented and they kiss ass and are slaves to the system. Too much jealousy in the game. Too much fake-ism where nikkas ain't recording they shyt just being happy. We came out the streets already. If a nikka gets on the radio and says, 'if I see you I'ma do this,' its corny. I said 'Let me make it real again' since everybody is a gangster now and challenge the whole thing, which Tupac did -which he was genius for. We are just understanding their wrath and the methods to the madness now. Tupac was Jesus Christ. Now they can take that and run with it if they want to. Now, to me, that's who he was -F**k dat. A lot of people say 'why do you embrace PAC -F**k you.' He was a part of us. He was hip-hop. He was a soldier for war -period. Especially me.
When he called me a ring leader of all the East Coast rappers on Makeveli and made a song talking about me (pauses)... The greatest rapper makes a song, "Against All Odds (The realest sh*t I ever wrote)and he talks about Nas? Meanwhile he disrespects other rappers recklessly in all kinds of numerous records and he comes at Nas on this one, the last one? It's incredible to me. I feel a respect and I'm passionate to him. I recognize his genius while other nikkas front at him and look at him for the sensationalism that he brought because was mad at Biggie and get mad at PAC forever -it's stupid. Grow up. So, it was my thing to take over, sorta, one of the directions that he was going in, but I had my own direction. And because of the loss of my mom and because how phony fans can be, I took it into my own hands to f**k the w
Jcole calls 7th day theory the greatest album ever
YouTube
T.I calls 2pac the goat
[ame=http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HOpYCj7q0ac]Skip Bayless Stephen A. Smith on Greatest Rapper of All Time with T.I. HD - YouTube[/ame]
Kool G Rap calls Pac the Marvin Gaye of hiphop ie the goat
[ame=http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vY9JDEMBkmQ]Exclusive: Kool G. Rap Was Part Of The L.A. Riot With Tupac - YouTube[/ame]
The fans and the people have chosen 2pac as the goat
[ame=http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x9DrlgdUrnk]2Pac - Voted # 1 Rapper Of All Time (Greatest MC) - YouTube[/ame]
And whereas Nas is reluctant to call himself the best,Pac said he wuz not worried about the reaction of response of Rakim,KRS,Cube all of who had it in they tank still to put fire to his feet and he would've responded
[ame=http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FLmn8vuNoss]@3:00 Tupac - say's he would destroy Rakim,LL Cool J & Krs1 if they ever dissed him ! - YouTube[/ame]
We can also talk about how Pac murdered Nas on Thugz Mansion with a almost 10 yr old verse,which nas heard beforehand but had no answer for apparently.....u heard it yourself in the nas interview I posted....after pac died Nas felt it wuz his calling to take over where Pac left off and go at the rap game,we seen Hate Me Now,we remember the radio interview where he dissed the whole rap game....what wuz the result?he blames his mom,and fake fans for him apoligizing to Nelly,and Camron and the industry bcuz he "just wanted to live"....guess he couldn't carry that cross
he looked like he wuz struggling in the Hate me now video doin it,his knees wuz wobbly....meanwhile Pac had the cross on his back and wuz doin the George Jefferson walk while his enemies watched and the streets wiped sweat from his brow and helped em carry it.
intilectual recipricol
Killin fake hip hop
this nicca skip stay bein wrong...
USSInsiders
Banned
lets use conjecture and pass it as fact to argue about two :dwyaneflab: nikkas.
This site never ceases to entertainMike Otherz
All Star
loved alicia keys breakdown of why nas is the best. jay prolly got a subliminal coming up for her.
Prince.Skeletor
Don’t Be Like He-Man
Nas has a song like Dirt Off Your Shoulders?
He just just came out with 2, but even better!
Nas the Don and Nasty!
Nas face belongs on the Mt. Rushmore of hip hop legends.
Illmatic may very well be the greatest hip hop albm ever.
But I just cant call him the greatest.
I see there has been some back and forth here about Nas longevity vs. Jay-Z's longevity. I would start Nas at '94 and Jay at '96, when their first albums dropped. If you wanted to start it when they first did music, Nas is early nineties, Jay is late eighties.
I think the difference is, while they both have great longevity, I think Jay's is considered to be longer from the aspect of longevity at or near the top of the game. Since '98 he's been considered to be at the top, or never lower than third at times maybe to the likes of DMX, 50, Em, Ye, or Wayne. Granted this is from a mainstream standpoint.
Illmatic may very well be the greatest hip hop albm ever.
But I just cant call him the greatest.
I see there has been some back and forth here about Nas longevity vs. Jay-Z's longevity. I would start Nas at '94 and Jay at '96, when their first albums dropped. If you wanted to start it when they first did music, Nas is early nineties, Jay is late eighties.
I think the difference is, while they both have great longevity, I think Jay's is considered to be longer from the aspect of longevity at or near the top of the game. Since '98 he's been considered to be at the top, or never lower than third at times maybe to the likes of DMX, 50, Em, Ye, or Wayne. Granted this is from a mainstream standpoint.