How can you securely hate on Jay-Z's come up though?

aRoMaN21

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Jay Z has done a lot for Hip Hop, if not at least by remaining relevant as a cultural and musical icon and flying the flag.

There's gonna be a huge hole in the genre when he retires or passes. I can't knock the hustle. In business you have to be shrewd to be successful and he's done that always for right or for wrong.

He might have done a lot for hip hop but his first album was straight dukktales bout a life he didnt live.
and he used it to his advantage to come up. cuz everyone who really knew him is now dead or not relevant to speak on him

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He might have done a lot for hip hop but his first album was straight dukktales bout a life he didnt live.
and he used it to his advantage to come up. cuz everyone who really knew him is now dead or not relevant to speak on him

:manny:
honesty isnt a prerequisite to a good story. the bible is the goat of a collection of essays. what I want from an artist is lyrics that move and advance thw genre. jay hasnt moved or advanced the genre. when people talk about the blueprint, they forgot az dropped a similar album that was far superior to that record. the guy is just a mediocre artist. that other stuff isnt necessary in an argument.
 

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He might have done a lot for hip hop but his first album was straight dukktales bout a life he didnt live.
and he used it to his advantage to come up. cuz everyone who really knew him is now dead or not relevant to speak on him

:manny:
so since they dead .....its ducktales:what: Emory,dehaven, and calvin klein went to jail for long stints and they all said jay was part of the click in some fashion but you ignore that huh:patrice:

even quan who was running with nas a few years ago said he seen jay in Va when he was dealing....but you say ducktales:duck:
 

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so since they dead .....its ducktales:what: Emory,dehaven, and calvin klein went to jail for long stints and they all said jay was part of the click in some fashion but you ignore that huh:patrice:

even quan who was running with nas a few years ago said he seen jay in Va when he was dealing....but you say ducktales:duck:


dehaven says jay was a dealers driver.. thats how he was down.
he was no big dealer catching charges and selling.
he sold 3 ounces... 3 ounces ever.

:usure:

jay had to pay latin kings to perform in clubs. he was no respected dealer. he was "part of a clikk" like u said. and got lukky driving around a dealer and got paid skim money
 

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dehaven says jay was a dealers driver.. thats how he was down.
he was no big dealer catching charges and selling.
he sold 3 ounces... 3 ounces ever.

:usure:

jay had to pay latin kings to perform in clubs. he was no respected dealer. he was "part of a clikk" like u said. and got lukky driving around a dealer and got paid skim money
Dehaven said also after he got out of jail jay was doing hand to hand with him thats when he was thinking jay was gonna take care of him as you know his story changed when jay did not take care of him......he did something i remember (im from BK) jay and a huge group of people with him leading it on bike in bk around 93-94 ......i was 12-13 at the time i thought it was one of the drug dealers i seen but i could not remember his face because like he said he was in jersey and va....all i know he was doing something
 

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Dehaven said also after he got out of jail jay was doing hand to hand with him thats when he was thinking jay was gonna take care of him as you know his story changed when jay did not take care of him......he did something i remember (im from BK) jay and a huge group of people with him leading it on bike in bk around 93-94 ......i was 12-13 at the time i thought it was one of the drug dealers i seen but i could not remember his face because like he said he was in jersey and va....all i know he was doing something
all i know is that his dealer boss died and he took his shyt and flipped it.
he had to pay the latin kings off cuz they knew what he did.

idk. all i know is he was a driver got skim money frm sales.
he never cooked crakk and had to get help with that

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all i know is that his dealer boss died and he took his shyt and flipped it.
he had to pay the latin kings off cuz they knew what he did.

idk. all i know is he was a driver got skim money frm sales.
he never cooked crakk and had to get help with that

:manny:
Every one had to pay the latin kings!!! those guys dont play:stopitslime:




was you there with them while they was cooking?:ohhh:If so tell me more
 

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Every one had to pay the latin kings!!! those guys dont play:stopitslime:




was you there with them while they was cooking?:ohhh:If so tell me more

i know heads who know things and told me :manny:

i was born 81...
i also know that he sold only 3 ounces and truly pokketed the profits. all them other drugs he sold, the profit went to his boss and he got skim money off it
 

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Wow
honesty isnt a prerequisite to a good story. the bible is the goat of a collection of essays. what I want from an artist is lyrics that move and advance thw genre. jay hasnt moved or advanced the genre. when people talk about the blueprint, they forgot az dropped a similar album that was far superior to that record. the guy is just a mediocre artist. that other stuff isnt necessary in an argument.
I've heard it all man. Jayz hasn't advanced the culture smh
 

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Real talk....who is history have ever got to the top like some of these guys being nice to everybody?.....thats right no one!
if you really look at these guys beef with him they are saying in a nutshell...." Jay did not stop trying to get to the top to help me get there with him" and " he did not go out his way to help me when I need someone to hold my hand while I figure it out even if he helped somewhat but not to my liking its not enough".....If you was him and 13-15 people keep saying those things what would you feel?:ohhh:

But when all your FRIENDS from before you were famous aint fukking with you for the same reason, you need to check yourself
 

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