How Come There Aren't More Black EDM DJs/Producers?

[IllmaticDelta]

Here's the thing tho, that's always existed. In the 90s Trance, Techno( outside of the Detroit guys and Dave Angel), Prog House, Big Beat was on 1 side. Soulful/Deep House, Jungle, Trip Hop, UK Garage was on the other side.

The thing I'm trying to impart to your is. We've always had our space within the so-called Dance music world. These EDM fest is just a continuation of that. We have our own festivals throughout the world. We have our own parties, our own radio stations, our own outlets.

Stop worrying so much bout their thing, that has never been for us in the first place.

We have our Soul Summits, Chosen Few, House Fests all over Jersey. We have our Wednesday nights at Cielo, Sunday nights at 18st Lounge(DC), House Fest in Baltimore, Deep Sugar(Baltimore) and so many other parties all over this country.

Every week I go out and party to House, and its nothing but Negroes(old and young)

Lets stop caring bout being invited to their parties. And fukk with our folks, who are and have been holding it down.

Trust me, I detest being at party with too much White folk.

all facts

 

[Crayola Coyote]

Okay.
8 years ago I was doing this radio show on Pittsburgh radio on WRCT 88.3FM, this was when I first got my Serato unit. Basically it was a mixshow where I played house and techno for 2 and a half hours. They had Technicsn and a mixer there. So during this time, I got a gig at this club in Pittsburgh, I was the guest DJ they had two resident DJs. Two white cats, what they was playing was cool, then I come on and just smash the gig. I was invited to play again at that same club for new years 2010. shyt was cool. I come back to this club again, next time with my friend who I had a falling out with. The two resident DJs are there. I said "what's up" and they just hi-five my friend (who's white) and don't give me a hi-five. They even said it loud to my face with a smile "hey we're doing the WHITE GUY handshake!" it was so blatant.

And then when I was trying to do events afterwards and get work DJing, I would consistently get passed over. They were always booking white DJs. It eventually went to the point in Pittsburgh that it changed from me getting paid to play gigs there...to me doing open DJ nights for free (twice) at this one club for exposure just over the course of two years.

That was around the time I graduated and I just said eff it and moved to NY.

Oh shyt! You that dude that said Pittsburgh was fukking trash and dipped and made 6 figures. I read your shyt here a lot. But anyway yo! My town straight up white folks. The clubs only play house music to the point that all the Hispanics and Haitian people never come out or they gotta go to different towns 30-45 mins away. When they play hip hop music (at closing time ain't that a bytch) all the chicks want to dance and shyt. These white people have it to a science to not allow certain people in.

 

[Crayola Coyote]

Here's the thing tho, that's always existed. In the 90s Trance, Techno( outside of the Detroit guys and Dave Angel), Prog House, Big Beat was on 1 side. Soulful/Deep House, Jungle, Trip Hop, UK Garage was on the other side.

The thing I'm trying to impart to your is. We've always had our space within the so-called Dance music world. These EDM fest is just a continuation of that. We have our own festivals throughout the world. We have our own parties, our own radio stations, our own outlets.

Stop worrying so much bout their thing, that has never been for us in the first place.

We have our Soul Summits, Chosen Few, House Fests all over Jersey. We have our Wednesday nights at Cielo, Sunday nights at 18st Lounge(DC), House Fest in Baltimore, Deep Sugar(Baltimore) and so many other parties all over this country.

Every week I go out and party to House, and its nothing but Negroes(old and young)

Lets stop caring bout being invited to their parties. And fukk with our folks, who are and have been holding it down.

Trust me, I detest being at party with too much White folk.

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[Crayola Coyote]

Cybotron and Mr. Fingers gave em a style to run with

Just to let y'all know. If y'all suck at rapping you can take the EDM route. Mix trap beats with trance/euro beats and you got yourself a demonic genre

 

[Unknown Poster]

Rap nikkas treat producers like shyt, surprised more aiintswitched genres up

IT's to the point I really don't even want to produce for rappers, not to sound anywhere remotely But the fukk am I doing working with someone that expects me to give them a beat for free while they pay a rap nikka $1000 for a verse?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Cybotron and Mr. Fingers gave em a style to run with

 

[Paradise50]

doesn't EDM jack shyt blacks were doing in the 80s?

 

[Flywin Lannister]

EDM pretty much decided that it wasn't gonna be about black folks, and did what they needed to do to keep it that way.

Start that sentence with 'society' and it explains a lot about the difference in opportunities for white vs black people in society period.

 

[xCivicx]

Gimme a little more time

 

[Jasonmask]

Long story short it’s a racist market

 

[noumena]

There may be a few outlier black EDM artists, but yes, by and large most of it is white, and yes, most of it is soulless garbage. That doesn't attract a lot of black fans, and it doesn't attract a lot of black artists. EDM is a different skillset than other forms of production. EDM may have been based off of house and techno, black music, but it's a far, far stretch from what it once was. Completely cac-ified. That's what pissed me off about EDM trap. They just called it "trap" Even though trap already existed as a black hip hop genre. Not only that, it wasn't even good. EDM Trap is mostly trash.

EDM is also really limiting to creatives, and all of the creativity tends to go to sound design, and they are total nerds. Not in the smart way, in the sense that they'd get really fukking uptight about mixing, presets, etc etc and not even focus on the song itself. I think blacks tend to worry about writing good songs, whites in EDM worry about the minute details. All these EDM producers were talking shyt about Lex Luger, how terrible his production was, how terrible his mixing was, and when push came to shove, they were biting him. Everyone bit him, yet trap music was laughed at before. Sickens me. And that's why it comes out corny. Because while you might be able to be "production guru", it almost never equals talent and good music. It comes out corny. Like a mathematical formula, no soul. They have no respect for the black music they lift from and that's why it comes out so corny. It's why those old House DJs shyt on these newcomers songwise, and why older white DJs at least understand that dance music needed that SOUL to drive it. These newcomers have no respect for the pioneers and no respect for the past.

 

[Detroit_blue]

House and Techno is black music.
it was and still is a product of the black communities of Chicago and Detroit respectively.

Never have I ever heard it played by black people in detroit
Never have I been to a black club that plus it

U don't care if we created it

TBH without the internet I wouldn't know it exist.

 

[Unknown Poster]

Never have I ever heard it played by black people in detroit
Never have I been to a black club that plus it

U don't care if we created it

TBH without the internet I wouldn't know it exist.

how old r u?

 

[Detroit_blue]

33 and I have been apart of the Hip Hop scene since I was 19. I know about everything. I've attended the Techno fest for the women since I was 18. Real shyt that's the only presence Edm or house has here. And clubs I the burbs the blacc people avoid those nights and spots like the plague. Music weak and has no soul. Bad drunk White Chiccs with no rhythm and corny white boys. Not my vibe

No disrespect to your craft I'm speaking on the presence and answering the op. And I over shot with the wouldn't know it exist. The history is well documented downtown.

 

[K.Dot]

I was pondering this recently. I actually like EDM, but I noticed that pretty much every mainstream EDM "DJ" is white. I remember Forbes putting out a list of the highest paid DJs last year and they were all white. The only minorities were I think Steve Aoki and DJ Khaled.

Considering EDM's ties with House music, you'd think there'd be more young black producers looking to get into it. I know hip hop and trap beats will be what we gravitate towards first, but there's no reason why EDM can't be a lane we explore and excel in, especially when folks like Chainsmokers are making money off pretty mediocre songs. To me, it seems like a lane we don't explore as much even though I think black producers could thrive in it.

Chances are I'm just not aware of all the black EDM producers. If that's the case, put me up on game. I'm trying to find as many new cats as possible.

I live in the Midwest, home of techno and house(Jit/Juke music). There are PLENTY of black EDM producers, not sure what you talking about.