How did Black politics fail the last 50 years post civil rights and voting rights act? What should we have done better?

[The_Sheff]

When money gets on the table everybody turns into, i got mine fukk you.

Back then, the status quo was uncomfortable, so folks were willing to risk the little they had. But now, folks are comfortable and they ain’t trying to lose anything by stepping out.

 

[Voice of Reason]

The problem was that the people ultimately trusted the politicians more than their own neighbors. Black america has a strong tradition of mutual aid. Whether its parents groups, neighborhood councils, churches, or community programs started by people who live in the same neighborhood(basically like how the black panther party started). Things like block parties, church fundraisers etc. Were organic tools of self governance and problem solving. The irony about the word "anarchism" is that most people dont actually know what it means and only understand anarchism through a capitalist framework(if there are no people at the top making the decisions for others without consulting them, the result is violence and chaos. Its similar to an office manager thinking if he isnt telling people what to do, nobody would be able to use their brains).

The form of organizing i described above is what anarchism actually looks like. It is a way of organizing people based off their ability to contribute and their relationship to the community they live in. Everyone gets a say because everyone has a stake in the outcome. We had this going on for centuries and it was how we were able to defend ourselves and pool our resources together to take care of our most vulnerable.

What happened was all that got colonized by the democratic party, and demonized by the republican party(with basically no push back from thr democrats). They started showing up to churches, fundraisers, parties etc. And using them as photo ops. Despite how much he's changed, some people still haven't forgiven Roland Martin for the literal tap dancing he did for Hilary Clinton in 2016. Obama is ironically a tier-1 political operator when it comes to defending the status quo and defusing any progressive sentiment in black communities. He has been deployed as a tool to defuse any sort of justified anger and attempts at organizing based off that anger(e.g. him pulling up to the church that got shot up by a white supremacist to sing amazing grace at the memorial, him distancing himself publicly from Jeremiah Wright who accurately described white America's evil actions internationally and at home, and most recently him telling NBA players not to go on strike in solidarity after George Floyd's public murder by police) real institutional change occurred through black labor unions, mutual aid societies, community defense programs, education groups, etc. We need to rebuild them, frankly the way things are going, we wont have a choice they will have to be rebuilt so we can survive just as we did in the past.

Damn I forgot about Obama telling the nba players to not strike


That moment in history was sabotaged by feminist and the dem establishment.

 

[Voice of Reason]

Liberia (and the idea(s) along with it) came and went during its ideological apex.

Some people left, more stayed. Would you like to restart that movement?

We need to take over states politically. Why would we leave to Liberia

Meeting just need a critical mass of black people to reverse migrate to the south

 

[Voice of Reason]

The issue is that in cities like DC and Atlanta black middle class actually got what they asked for.

What does that mean

 

[The God Poster]

spare me the c00n babble the problem is white supremacist sabotage

Not saying either of you are wrong. It seems you already had an answer & your mind won’t be changed. Why even make the thread?

 

[Jean toomer]

You have to first look at reconstruction to understand the failures of today. Reconstruction was the most successful politico-economic era for black people, while still segregated. Black people made so many strides collectively, that the Président Andrew Johnson had to promote the black codes, pardon confederate soldiers, legitimize the kkk, and renege on the freedmans bureau, because Southern Whites were destitute after the civil war.
Fast forward to post civil rights, a record number of elected officials were coopted into the idea of intégration, white acceptance, and individual gain rather than collective economic empowerment….and now here we are…black excellence for a few, with the collective backsliding into oblivion.

 

[LeaveMyHairLineAlone]

I was thinking more along the lines of we built this country with a foot in our asses and a whip on our backs, why didn’t we go somewhere and figure it out from scratch, surrounded by people that look like us?

White Amerikkka sabotaged that shyt and its still going on(cointel pro) til this day

 

[Unbothered]

I think the issue is that Black politicians are afraid to move the needle and do something that might be considered “radical,” so instead, when most of them get into office, they tend to “go along to get along” and become your standard by-the-numbers politician .

The Congressional Black Caucus, for example, there is no doubt that their existence is needed, but time after time it's clear they're too afraid to do anything impactful that might be considered “radical” and upsetting their White counterparts in Congress.

The truth is, we're not going to get Black politicians that echo the spirit of the political sensibilities of such people as Fred Hampton, Malcolm X, Huey P. Newton, Assata Shakur, Fannie Lou Hamer, Sista Soulja, etc, up in Washington.

That's not gonna happen, and that's why, to some degree, Black politics have remained stagnant ever since the passage of the Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act, etc, because once that was passed, it created a sense of comfort in that the “hard parts” were over when it was just beginning unfortunately, a large portion of Black politicians over the decades have decided submit to the status quo.

 

[Wig Twistin Season]

White Amerikkka sabotaged that shyt and its still going on(cointel pro) til this day

White people stopped us from leaving the US?

 

[Unemployed GM]

What does that mean

Professional middle class jobs and contracts. Mayors like Barry and Maynard Jackson helped made sure that happened.

 

[Ziggiy]

integration was not a good thing for us imo..we should have worked to build our own economies, or at least significantly reduce how much of a hand the caucus people had in our business

We tried that. We DID that. And White Supremacists burned it to the ground.

 

[Uachet]

White people stopped us from leaving the US?

No, they propagandized us so much to the world, along with their colonialism pushing White is right, that even other groups that look like us would not really accept us. Heck, other groups that look like us do not even accept each other, as you can see with the prevalence of tribalism.

So unless you have some empty land we Black Americans can inhabit that is fertile enough to support our numbers, we really have no place to go where we would be accepted in mass.

 

[HarlemHottie]

The Congressional Black Caucus, for example, there is no doubt that their existence is needed, but time after time it's clear they're too afraid to do anything impactful that might be considered “radical” and upsetting their White counterparts in Congress.

No, they're plenty radical on behalf of their ppl. It's just that, those ppl ain't us.

Peep the last two CBC Chairs:

Former: His mother, Pamela Horsford, came to the U.S. from Trinidad in her teens and gave birth to him when she was 17.

Steven Horsford - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Current: Clarke was born in Flatbush, Brooklyn, on November 21, 1964, to Lesley Clarke and former city councilwoman Una Clarke, both immigrants from Jamaica

Yvette Clarke - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This is Yvette Clark, btw, and this is how we end up with illegals in FBA neighborhoods.



'I'm from Brooklyn, New York, we have a diaspora that can absorb a significant number of these migrants. When I hear colleagues talk about the doors of the inn being closed, no room at the inn. 'I'm saying I need more people in my district just for redistricting purposes, and those members could clearly fit here.'

Btw, Yvette Clarke is a 2nd gen black immigrant politician. I heard her mother moved the same.

Una S. T. Clarke - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Wig Twistin Season]

No, they propagandized us so much to the world, along with their colonialism pushing White is right, that even other groups that look like us would not really accept us. Heck, other groups that look like us do not even accept each other, as you can see with the prevalence of tribalism.

So unless you have some empty land we Black Americans can inhabit that is fertile enough to support our numbers, we really have no place to go where we would be accepted in mass.

I can’t do this with y’all. My understanding of what limits us as a people has shifted from where it was even 2 years ago. I used to think like a lot of y’all. I don’t anymore.

Start with the 7 Hermetic Principles and work your way up from there.

I legit used to think it was all talk, but it’s reality. I had someone SHOW me how things really work and when I tell you it’s you and only you who controls your reality, you can take it or leave it.

 

[ORDER_66]

it failed because alot of the black politicians was off code. samboeing, or sold out to SUPER wealthy donors like aipac...