How Did Hillary Clinton Become So Hated?

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

What are you talking about now?

"she seemed phony"

Did you want her to cook and clean for you, too?

I need someone competent. I dont need a demagogue.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

As if i'm remotely interested in befriending those i detest.

I come here to share my opinion and stand on my square.

if you're looking to fit in on a forum, you're losing.

I should have said your bringing up his lack of a father is actually the definition of what you then proceeded to call him. It just was a very glaring case of a lack of self-awareness which is not endearing or helps people consider your past or future opinions. lol

 

[AnonymityX1000]

"she seemed phony"

Did you want her to cook and clean for you, too?

I need someone competent. I dont need a demagogue.

I want someone good at their job. And being an effective politician means being able to seem genuine.
Would you say losing to Obama and then Trump in elections you were favored in shows competence?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Young voters needed someone to blame for Bernie losing.

Conservatives were going to hate her as they do almost any woman threatening a male dominated system.

Russian propaganda made it vogue.

Not too complicated.

Do you run the DNC's account or something?

You didn't explain anything. You say, "young voters needed someone to blame" without explaining WHY so many young voters (and other Democrats) didn't vote for her in the first place. They chose NOT to vote for her before they "needed someone to blame" for her winning.

And her campaign engaged in a bunch of racist bullshyt against Obama in 2008...then engaged in a bunch of underhanded bullshyt against Sanders in 2016. Not to mention that a large proportion of the Democratic party just isn't into wars and Wall Street to the degree that she is.

You really have to stretch to make this not about her.

 

[ill]

BERNIE VOTED FOR THE BILL THAT HILLARY WAS MERELY THE FIRST LADY FOR.

JESUS

fukkING

CHRIST

Stop this shyt.

Plus, corporate relationships are NOT bad. Being pro-business is NOT bad. Hillary has ALWAYS supported regulation and responsible capitalism.

HILLARY IS THE ENTIRE REASON MARTIN SKHRELI IS IN JAIL!!!!!!

Let’s speak on her money issue.

She ran her campaign like she’s for the people all the while she’s doing private fundraisers giving favors for investment bankers.

Her family left office dead broke and within a couple years surpassed $200mill in net worth. How’d that happen?

Well, it happened because she and her family represent elitism and cronyism. There’s no way they made that much money without it. Everything that Trump is doing out in the open, she did behind closed doors. She’s not alone. All Presidents do it but to your average citizen it further solidified that it’s a good old boys club in high politics.

She represents career politics so how in the world can a politician who’s supposed to make 100-400k per year suddenly so flush with cash?

For those looking for a red/blue wedge on this issue, there is none. They all do it. Hill did it in secret and we can say with some “class”. Trump is brash and doing it out in the open. The “win” here is that the public is openly talking about it and hopefully Trump doing all this in the open and with the level of hatred for him, hopefully we can reform some aspects of being a career politician/crook.

 

[Pressure]

Do you run the DNC's account or something?

ou didn't explain anything. You say, "young voters needed someone to blame" without explaining WHY so many young voters (and other Democrats) didn't vote for her in the first place. They chose NOT to vote for her before they "needed someone to blame" for her winning.

You post in this sub. You should be aware of the complaints you see.

• It was rigged.
• Hillary Rigged it.
• She had more air time.
• She thought it was her turn.
• The Media
• Ben gozi
• She's corrupt
• super predators!!!
• blah blah blah

Most of the people who voted for Bernie voted for her in the primary. It's safe to say many of those people didn't hate her until after she lost the election and the conversation turned to "Economic Anxiety of Midwestern Voters" and "Bernie would have beat Trump if it weren't rigged."

• So it's safe to say that most of the Hillary Hate mentioned in the first point came up after nov 10 2016 and people wanted to re-litigate the 2016 election primaries.
• The people who hated her before election day didn't vote for her at all.

And her campaign engaged in a bunch of racist bullshyt against Obama in 2008...then engaged in a bunch of underhanded bullshyt against Sanders in 2016. Not to mention that a large proportion of the Democratic party just isn't into wars and Wall Street to the degree that she is.

• And she went on to work one of the most prominent positions in the Obama White House
• She also received endorsements from Obama
• A large portion of the democrat party supports military action (let's not fall for revisionist history here)
• Wall street was bailed out under a democrat controlled congress and white house

You really have to stretch to make this not about her.

It appears you already have an idea. So I would suggest:

• making a more honest OP
• stop pretending like you haven't heard ad naseum here and other places why people say they don't like Hillary

From There I would then recommend having a much more fruitful conversation that revolves around:

• These are examples of issues people have about Hillary Clinton
• To what extent are those flaws true
• And why are we still discussing them two years later?

:Aightthen:

 

[StatUS]

Flip-flopping positions on a dime, corporate ties, disrespect of Obama, voting for the Iraq War, Libya, superpredators.

Probably more but ask her stans here it's just Benghazi, Russian propaganda, and ignorance

People also forget that she was literally the most unpopular politician except Trump in every poll

 

[Pressure]

Let’s speak on her money issue.

She ran her campaign like she’s for the people all the while she’s doing private fundraisers giving favors for investment bankers.

Her family left office dead broke and within a couple years surpassed $200mill in net worth. How’d that happen?

Well, it happened because she and her family represent elitism and cronyism. There’s no way they made that much money without it. Everything that Trump is doing out in the open, she did behind closed doors. She’s not alone. All Presidents do it but to your average citizen it further solidified that it’s a good old boys club in high politics.

She represents career politics so how in the world can a politician who’s supposed to make 100-400k per year suddenly so flush with cash?

For those looking for a red/blue wedge on this issue, there is none. They all do it. Hill did it in secret and we can say with some “class”. Trump is brash and doing it out in the open. The “win” here is that the public is openly talking about it and hopefully Trump doing all this in the open and with the level of hatred for him, hopefully we can reform some aspects of being a career politician/crook.

Everything you said holds true for Trump.

What point are you making?

 

[TEKBEATZ]

Them dr. Evil outfits did her in.

 

[Robbie3000]

The Rs have hated her since 92. Mainly because they couldn't deal with an outspoken first lady. But to be fair to them, she overstepped her boundary when she was named the point person for Healthcare reform. (Same way Dems feel about Trump's family running wild in the White House).

Progressives started hating her when they realized she was a transnational politician just like Bill, but with non of the charm that endeared him to voters. Her interpersonal shortcomings became even more pronounced when she started running for president in 2008 especially in contrast to Obama.

She became even more unlikable in 2016 due to her entitled and condescending behavior towards a significant portion of the left.

 

[Robbie3000]

Them dr. Evil outfits did her in.

 

[Pressure]

Flip-flopping positions on a dime, corporate ties, disrespect of Obama, voting for the Iraq War, Libya, superpredators.

Her policies moved further left over time. Is this a bad thing? :PatriceTrump:

obably more but ask her stans here it's just Benghazi, Russian propaganda, and ignorance

Benghazi is something brought up to this daym, even by the current President. Or have you forgotten what the E-mails were supposed to be about? So ignorance applies. :Madwithher:

People also forget that she was literally the most unpopular politician except Trump

• Conservatives hated her more than any other president
• But for more perspective on the drop
• Nothing really changed that should have her drop beyond the the things you mentioned before
• for perspective

The Fix
A record number of Americans now dislike Hillary Clinton




By Aaron BlakeAugust 31, 2016Email the author



A poll from the end of August shows the lowest favorability Hillary Clinton has ever had. But Donald Trump's numbers aren't great either. (Sarah Parnass/The Washington Post)


Hillary Clinton hit her stride after the Democratic National Convention, riding to a double-digit lead over Donald Trump in some national and swing-state polls — her highest of the year.

As of today, though, Americans' views of her just hit a record low.

A new Washington Post-ABC News poll shows 41 percent of Americans have a favorable impression of Clinton, while 56 percent have an unfavorable one.

That's the worst image Clinton has had in her quarter-century in national public life. Her previous low favorable rating this year was in July, when it was 42 percent, lower than any mark in historical Post-ABC polls except a few points in the 1990s when a large share of the public had no opinion of her. Her previous high for unfavorable views was in June, when 55 percent disliked Clinton.

Trump, of course, has long been the more unpopular of the two presidential nominees, and he remains so; 35 percent of Americans have a favorable impression of him, compared to 63 percent unfavorable.

But if you look just at registered voters, the new poll actually shows Clinton's image is about as bad as Trump's, with 38 percent having a favorable impression and 59 percent unfavorable, compared to a 37/60 split for Trump.

Clinton's numbers serve as a reminder that Trump's unpopularity isn't prohibitive, largely because Americans — and specifically registered voters — don't much like Clinton either. If it weren't for Trump, in fact, Clinton would be the most unpopular major-party presidential nominee in modern American history.

Perhaps most notably, Clinton's image has declined significantly from just a month ago. After the Democratic convention, Americans were about evenly split — 48 percent favorable and 50 percent unfavorable.

[WATCH: 6 voters explain why they've already made up their minds about the 2016 election]

Interestingly, Clinton's numbers appear to have dropped since that early August poll mostly in groups that have been very supportive of her:

• Her favorable rating among women dropped from 54 percent to just 45 percent.
• Among Hispanics, it went from 71 percent to 55 percent.
• Among liberals, it went from 76 percent to 63 percent.

It's not clear quite what might have caused Clinton to fall further than ever before. It's likely that she simply got an extended bounce after the Democratic convention that has finally faded. It's also possible that adverse headlines last week about the Clinton Foundation and thousands of newly discovered emails from the private email server Clinton used as secretary of state reinforced the reasons views of her had been worsening prior to the July conventions.

 

[Pressure]

The Rs have hated her since 92. Mainly because they couldn't deal with an outspoken first lady. But to be fair to them, she overstepped her boundary when she was named the point person for Healthcare reform. (Same way Dems feel about Trump's family running wild in the White House).

Progressives started hating her when they realized she was a transnational politician just like Bill, but with non of the charm that endeared him to voters. Her interpersonal shortcomings became even more pronounced when she started running for president in 2008 especially in contrast to Obama.

She became even more unlikable in 2016 due to her entitled and condescending behavior towards a significant portion of the left.

She's a nerd and not a great orator nor a people person.

She fails where worse politicians have succeeded because she just didn't have the charm.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Well we can come back and get that from you another time…
There are a lot of excellent potential candidates, but again some of them have to get re-elected in 2018, and some of them have to figure out how they’re going to help other Democrats get elected in 2018. I don’t think this will gel until after the midterm election, and then, you know, we’ll see who’s serious and who’s not. Look, I’ve had personal conversations with a number of people who are being touted as potential candidates. They know the price you pay. They know that there is a whole industry on the right that will just strip them down. And look what happened—I’m off the stage, and all of a sudden Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, Kirsten Gillibrand, Amy Klobuchar—women I know well and respect, are standing up and speaking out and getting hammered. And the new phrase is they’re being “Hillary’d”. My name with an apostrophe D. Because you’ve got them being told to cease and desist. Be quiet. Don’t do this. Listen to her voice, it’s too shrill, it’s not this, it’s not that. So all of this attention on me, which some would like to think was only about me, which is another mistake, and if they don’t learn that lesson, we’re never going to get a woman president. All of a sudden now we see, ah, she’s gone, let’s turn on any woman who might dare to run for president and see what we can do to her.
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Transcript: Interview with Hillary Clinton

But this ties in to what I'm saying about how women are viewed in America.

I have zero problems with a female President and I think it is long overdue. However, the majority of men in this country will not stand for that shyt.

For reasons that I listed in the previous post, and more.

I legit cannot come up with a reason why the President should not be a woman but I bet you the majority of men in this country (WHITE MALES) could come up with a couple and they would all be bullshyt. And these people vote.

I feel like my reason for not voting for Hillary was legit. My aim was to secure the WH. I thought Bernie was the key to accomplishing this.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

Legit question. I was watching the 08 election documentary on CNN Sunday and they were showing a bunch of angry Hillary supporting women who was mad she lost the primary so they decided to vote McCain since he selected Palin as his running mate. Hillary would have easily been President in 2008 if Obama wasn't around. Her popularity seemed to be surging at that time.

Fast forward to today and she's one of the most vilified and hated women on the planet. What happened? Was it her actions as Secretary of State? Was it a successful smear campaign the Republicans and conservative media had against her for years? Was it successful Russian propaganda?

I can't pinpoint it.

A number of things:
(For Dems)

• In the 2008 and now 2016, she seemed too entitled when it came to the nomination. Always giving an air of "why should I have to run against this person?" (ie. other Dem candidates).
  
• Super predator remarks plus 20 years of criminal justice abuse to go along with it.
• The way the nomination was handled (DNC in her pocket, DNC against Bernie, CNN questions given to her, Washington Post article about superdelegates right before CA primary, alleged NYC voting irregularities, Dem debates on a Friday night when hardly anyone will watch, etc)
• Issues with Haiti.
• Bill Clinton meeting with Loretta Lynch (AG at the time) made her look more corrupt.

(For GOP)

• Conservatives have always been (at best) wary of Hillary; country's polarization just amplified the issue.
• Veritas video
• Benghazi
• Emails
• Pay-to-play corruption allegations concerning CGI (didn't help that they folded right after losing the election)
• Conservatives never got over the Clinton-Lewiskinsy thing.

That's off the top of my head. I'm sure there's more. But that's what got her to hate status in a hurry.