How Did Hillary Clinton Become So Hated?

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How is that wrong?

What the hell?

She didn't get a $200m lump sum. Doing speeches, writing books, etc. That adds up. Thats like saying Obama should do speeches for minimum wage...based on...what?

Here’s my problem. She didn’t make $200 mill from speaking and writing books. That’s such bullshyt. She/Bill made it using favorable connections and exploiting power and her position in american politics. Then you go and imply that she’s all legit. Of course she’s not. Almost no one at that level is. You shouldn’t gain generational wealth exploiting office for personal gain. They’re supposed to govern, not run family businesses. Like I said earlier, it’s great that people are so outraged by Trump and co doing their crony bullshyt. It’s also great that it’s out in the open so that the public can really see how high politics works and hopefully there will be enough anger to get some reform. If not, how are we any different than Putin and his oligarchs? Friends with the President means you’re getting paid real well and you’re gonna kick him back some change. Only difference here is we’re under the illiusuion that were different because we actually elect our president. Being President shouldn’t mean hitting the financial lottery, especially if you’re abusing your powerful position for personal gain.
 

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Her policies moved further left over time. Is this a bad thing? :PatriceTrump:



Benghazi is something brought up to this daym, even by the current President. Or have you forgotten what the E-mails were supposed to be about? So ignorance applies. :Madwithher:




  • Conservatives hated her more than any other president
  • But for more perspective on the drop
  • Nothing really changed that should have her drop beyond the the things you mentioned before
  • for perspective
Her positions moved left and right depending on the day. The rest of this is just opnion. I don't care about the conservative irrational hate of the Clinton's. Let's not act like she was some infallible politian who we should not question. Positions like that is why Dem supporters let them get away with shyt they shouldn't.
 

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Here’s my problem. She didn’t make $200 mill from speaking and writing books. That’s such bullshyt. She/Bill made it using favorable connections and exploiting power and her position in american politics. Then you go and imply that she’s all legit. Of course she’s not. Almost no one at that level is. You shouldn’t gain generational wealth exploiting office for personal gain. They’re supposed to govern, not run family businesses. Like I said earlier, it’s great that people are so outraged by Trump and co doing their crony bullshyt. It’s also great that it’s out in the open so that the public can really see how high politics works and hopefully there will be enough anger to get some reform. If not, how are we any different than Putin and his oligarchs? Friends with the President means you’re getting paid real well and you’re gonna kick him back some change. Only difference here is we’re under the illiusuion that were different because we actually elect our president. Being President shouldn’t mean hitting the financial lottery, especially if you’re abusing your powerful position for personal gain.
They didn't make that money in office, dolt

What are you talking about?!?

Putin has been in office since like 2000.

Its not my problem people don't want to pay you $400K for a speech.

mind you, business leaders and ex-senators, governors, mayors, ambassadors, etc all hit the lecture circuit for massive fees.
 

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For example, Hillary says she wants people who are making less than 150k or something like that to graduate debt free from college.

The conversation instead is about her hot sauce in the purse Beyonce joke.

Despite most of the the people criticizing her for pandering for the black vote would have been helped directly by the policy proposal.
People forget that HRC is the entire reason Martin Skhreli got exposed for being a fraud. Granted he was charged for a separate crime, but she boosted his grift and made an example out of him.
 

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Her bad persona also has to do with changing her message according to audience. What does she truly believe? I don't know, she just seems to take positions she thinks are advantageous.
This is also flawed. The only question is will stand by what she ran on.

She has a Senate voting record you can use to quantify this.
 

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This has always irked me. The sanctimonious Bernie supporter waxing on about "super-predators" while ignoring that Bernie voted in favor of the damn bill (and used that vote when up for re-election while running as a tough on crime candidate). What was even more hilarious were the people clamoring for Biden who helped craft the bill and still stands by it; but she shoulders the blame (that's not to say what she said wasn't fukked up, it was).

To answer the thread Q: A GOP machine attacking you non-stop for 30+ years. And an overwhelming majority of Americans being extremely susceptible to those attacks.

Hell, citizens united came to be because a conservative group wanted more freedom to attack her.

The conservative lawyer who brought you Citizens United is back for Round II
the super predator/crime bill episode is so flawed on all sides

First of all, MANY black communities wanted these bills.

These kids don't realize how bad crime was in the 90s. It wasn't just NY/LA/Chicago...every moderately sized city had crime rates that would make modern citizens crap themselves. It was THAT dangerous on our streets by all demographics. it was just wild.
 

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She's perfect :blessed:
 

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Her positions moved left and right depending on the day. The rest of this is just opnion. I don't care about the conservative irrational hate of the Clinton's. Let's not act like she was some infallible politian who we should not question. Positions like that is why Dem supporters let them get away with shyt they shouldn't.
Speaking of which, whats up with Jane Sanders using Bernie's (her husband's) access to fraudulently obtain loans that bankrupted a college and is under investigation by the FBI?

I don't think yall get it. Bernie and Jane Sanders are in DEEP shyt over this Vermont College deal

Witness in Jane Sanders land deal probe says she was recently interviewed by FBI
 

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Her positions moved left and right depending on the day. The rest of this is just opnion. I don't care about the conservative irrational hate of the Clinton's. Let's not act like she was some infallible politian who we should not question. Positions like that is why Dem supporters let them get away with shyt they shouldn't.
Would you provide examples?
 

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This is also flawed. The only question is will stand by what she ran on.

She has a Senate voting record you can use to quantify this.
What she ran on changed.
She was for TPP before she was against it.
She was against free college then she wasn't.
She was for the Keystone Pipeline and then she wasn't.
And worst of all it was leaked she told Wall St. she has public positions differ from her private ones.

This was all while she was running against Bernie she changed these positions.
 

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They didn't make that money in office, dolt

What are you talking about?!?

Putin has been in office since like 2000.

Its not my problem people don't want to pay you $400K for a speech.

mind you, business leaders and ex-senators, governors, mayors, ambassadors, etc all hit the lecture circuit for massive fees.

Again, I don’t have an issue with speaking fees and books. I have a problem with exploiting that office for generational wealth through shady backroom deals. I guess you forgot about her stock market futures abuse but if ever look up from eating her ass then she has a clear history of actions that show she abuses and exploits her political position. You can’t honestly believe all their money is legit from speaking and writing books...
 

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If you want to talk about sexism that's fine and I definitely think was a factor. But racism?! She's fukkin' white!
Obama navigated all of the bigotry she couldn't so it is really a null and void excuse.
I dont think Obama navigated through sexism.

And considering your stance on Emily's list I'm not sure I trust your take on bigotry as genuine.
 

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Again, I don’t have an issue with speaking fees and books. I have a problem with exploiting that office for generational wealth through shady backroom deals. I guess you forgot about her stock market futures abuse but if ever look up from eating her ass then she has a clear history of actions that show she abuses and exploits her political position. You can’t honestly believe all their money is legit from speaking and writing books...
You'd complain if she made a fraction of the money she has now.

Show me a single incidence of her personal financial impropriety.
 
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