How Did Hip Hop Get So Old?

[OnlyInCalifornia]

more like everyone was waiting for Dre to come and sign them or give them beats. i used to read about that all the time, some west coast cat complaining about how Dre doesn't want to work with them or some bullshyt about Dre & Snoop hogging the spotlight or something. bytch then make some music that deserves a spotlight & it will come

Nah...the labels didn't want to touch acts that were not associated with Dre or Snoop for a really long time. Now that the westcoast got popular again now they are pulling up with deals.

Kendrick Lamar made plenty of music that deserved a spotlight before Dr Dre co signed him but it wasn't until that co-sign he blew up.

Crooked I makes good music but no one wanted to look his way. Also rumors Snoop was saying shyt behind the scenes so people didn't fukk with him because of the shots he took while on Deathrow.

Ras Kass is a good example of someone who the labels asked to run to Dr Dre to get his buzz up and once Dr Dre stopped fukking with him, they ignored him.

 

[bl2k8]

Yeah Drake was the only true young superstar of the new dudes he was major at 22.

Sign of the times

 

[UpAndComing]

Nope. Hip hop wasn't a commodity when the old school came up and then 96 happened. Ever since, those who made the cut off played by different rules. The industry, which includes guys like Jay Z, decides who gets the funding. LL and Outkast did not sign tons of young acts only to steal their style and never release their albums.

You do got a point

Imagine is Big Daddy Kane owned a hugely successful label that signed all the artists that came after him, then started signing Biggie, Prodigy, Raekwon, Nas, etc

Instead of letting them shine, he's like "Hey, um, I don't think you're ready to come out yet". Doesn't promote them at all. Which basically ruins their buzz. And on top of that Kane stealing all the new artists rhymes and pawning it as his own, prolonging his stale career

Now all of a sudden you hear Kane rapping

"I'm out for presidents to represent me"
"I got you stuck off the realness"
"It was all a dream, I used to read Word Up magazine"


And now fans thinking "Ohh shyt, Big Daddy Kane's new album is the shyt. He's relevant after all these years. How does he do it???"

 

[Virtuous_Brotha]

all those nikkas you listed been in the game a few years now,of course they'd be older now

 

[scuba]

You do got a point

Imagine is Big Daddy Kane owned a hugely successful label that signed all the artists that came after him, then started signing Biggie, Prodigy, Raekwon, Nas, etc

Instead of letting them shine, he's like "Hey, um, I don't think you're ready to come out yet". Doesn't promote them at all. Which basically ruins their buzz. And on top of that Kane stealing all the new artists rhymes and pawning it as his own, prolonging his stale career

Now all of a sudden you hear Kane rapping

"I'm out for presidents to represent me"
"I got you stuck off the realness"
"It was all a dream, I used to read Word Up magazine"


And now fans thinking "Ohh shyt, Big Daddy Kane's new album is the shyt. He's relevant after all these years. How does he do it???"

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Folks love to applaud the business acumen but fail to understand the implications...

 

[TEKBEATZ]

Mobb Deep drop jems in their late teens

 

[TEKBEATZ]

 

[Boogie]

Nas blew up at 20/21

BIG Blew up at 22.

Snoop blew up at 22.

Only difference between now and then is, you gotta work and grind on ya own to build ya buzz up. THEN you drop the album. Which takes time

Drake dropped SFG at 22

Wiz dropped K&OJ at 22

Asap dropped LLA at 23

nikka Snoop was like 18-19 on Deep Cover

 

[BlackDroog]

There are too many people who can rap and distribute music online. Nowadays, dudes have to pout in work before they get put on.

 

[mortuus est]

No love for Joey Badass it seems

 

[blackslash]

You do got a point

Imagine is Big Daddy Kane owned a hugely successful label that signed all the artists that came after him, then started signing Biggie, Prodigy, Raekwon, Nas, etc

Instead of letting them shine, he's like "Hey, um, I don't think you're ready to come out yet". Doesn't promote them at all. Which basically ruins their buzz. And on top of that Kane stealing all the new artists rhymes and pawning it as his own, prolonging his stale career

Now all of a sudden you hear Kane rapping

"I'm out for presidents to represent me"
"I got you stuck off the realness"
"It was all a dream, I used to read Word Up magazine"


And now fans thinking "Ohh shyt, Big Daddy Kane's new album is the shyt. He's relevant after all these years. How does he do it???"

So tell me how jays magna carta sounds like wale, electronica, cole's, ye's recent projects?

 

[Da King]

Joey badazz
Migos
Fat trel

 

[L. Deezy]

i think it takes longer to get put on now days. back then you could send your demo and if you had skills you were signed and put out an album a year later now labels wait for you to drop mixtape after mixtape to build your fanbase cause they're not doing that work anymore then sign you, then drop more mixtapes then you put out an album. that's like 4 years right there

its funny cuz they dont ask white artists to drop mixtapes. But these dumb ass rappers cant see that

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

So Jay, Nas etc sposed to just quit cause they old and there needs to be a new face?
nikkas supposed to come take it. That's soft ass thinking. If a nikka is worthy of being the face then he'll be the face

nikkas did take it from jay and especially nas.

problem is, they were relegated to being semi-underground because of what the industry had become.

and you can only go so high up when you have a ceiling over your head and the general public aren't fully exposed to you. case in point, a lot of the people in this thread will most likely look at me like im crazy because they were under the assumption that jay and nas were the actual hot chit on the streets for the past decade.

and they get away with it because the un-trained eye doesn't know their left from their right when it comes to certain chit. all they know is whos on TV/radio and whos suddenly catching a so-called "organic buzz" on the internet rap sites.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

THEY TOOK IT FROM US MAN. people worried about hip-hop getting white-washed but they already white-washed it years ago in black-face. people just aint notice because theyre waiting on it to become predominately white. but that's not gonna fly these days. its kinda similar to the prison system being new aged slavery.