How did Jews become so financially powerful in the U.S?

[marcuz]

-Jews historically had high literacy rates and were encouraged to engage in midrash.(Hence why I choose my username)

-Jewish rabbi were highly educated and were allowed to have wives and children. Christian priest weren't allowed to marry. This may seem insignificant but usually the best and the brightest were chosen to be the religious authority often in religious communities. Well what happens when the best and brightest can't reproduce? All of your smartest individuals die out leaving the less educated to reproduce.

-After the destruction of the temple in 70AD, there was a bit of a power struggle but it pretty much spread Jewish power. Jews had mandatory schooling and literacy which was a huge step at the time. The jews in power then mandated mandatory schooling which some of the farmers who weren't keen on wanting an education or were too poor to afford it either stayed and gritted their teeth or left to another religion. This was almost like a culling which left only smart, educated and financially stable jewish people as the poor jews and the ones who didn't want an education left to another religion.

-This intellectual power move made jews leave farming in mass. It incentivized them to go into other business ventures. Obviously things like banking, craftsmanship, etc was reinforced by high literacy rate. This really started the identity of the Jewish people as "The Choosen Few".

-Obviously the jews and banking situation with christans, everyone knows about that so I won't beat that dead horse.

-In the 20th century, Jewish migrants to the US were hungry to succeed and they wanted to be considered equal in a meritocratic society where there was still mass discrimination and antisemitism. Once field that they viewed this could happen was the field of science. Science itself is non-preferential in terms of race since it was simply a method of how we study the world. Jews weren't inherently smarter at science but they came to the field of science IN DROVES with a passion to gain their equality through scientific discovery, This allowed them to dominate the field of science like black people do with the NBA. All of a sudden, you had your Albert Einsteins and their ilk popping up left and right snagging Nobel Prizes like it was child's play.

-Obviously jewish people are very well connected to their community and didn't fall for none of that "strong independent single mom" bullshyt. They created strong family units and used it to their advantage to generate power through friction.


Jews aren't genetically smarter and black people can be just as good if not better but we have to study their moves and start taking a few notes. All this gang shyt and c00ning is destroying our sense of community and making us weak against systematic white supremacy.

you must be jewish to write all of that and go out of your way to ignore their extreme bigotry and dishonest business practices

 

[DStyles]

They made up the holocaust.

 

[Marvel]

OH NOW you wanna quote me, MUTHAfukkA?

NOW?


NOW?


@Czar


Answer the question I've had for your dumb ass for the last month about red meat and blood. You said "no real Jake is gonna eat meat with blood in it, that's what Esau does, he got that name because he's a hunter" or some other non scientific nonsensical bullshyt.

Stop running scared like a little bytch

Psalms 111
10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments:

Proverbs 10
21 The lips of the righteous feed many: but fools die for want of wisdom.

Proverbs 17
10 A reproof entereth more into a wise man than an hundred stripes into a fool.

Proverbs 19
29 Judgments are prepared for scorners, and stripes for the back of fools.

John 8
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

 

[Czar]

Exactly, they are not the real Jews. A lot of people still don't get it. The people are Edomites. The greek word is Idumeans, which is what King Herod was, the man that wanted Jesus dead when he was a child. He was made ruler of the real Jews (who are black) during the time of Jesus. The main tribe of the Edomites are the Amalekites (the head tribe of white people) which is what these Khazar Jews are. They stole the real Jews identity after after siege of Jerusalem in 70 AD by Titus in which over a million real Jews fled into Africa. In those days some Edomites were already practicing the real Jews religion and they ran with it and created what is now Judaism which is nothing more than devil worship. Only the seed of Jacob can worship the Lord God of Israel, he is not dealing with Edomites.

@Marvel is a grade A idiot.

1. So the Khazar converts are Edomites now huh?

Let's see what the Khazars themselves had to say about who they descend from.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazar_Correspondence

THE LETTER OF JOSEPH THE KING, SON OF AARON THE KING, THE TURK-MAY HIS CREATOR PRESERVE HIM TO THE HEAD OF THE ASSEMBLY, HASDAI, THE SON OF ISAAC, SON OF EZRA

....I wish to inform you that your beautifully phrased letter was given us by Isaac, son of Eliezer, a Jew of the land of Germany [Isaac carried it through Germany, Hungary, and Kievan Rus to Khazaria.] You made us happy and we are delighted with your understanding and wisdom.... Let us, therefore, renew the diplomatic relations that once obtained between our fathers, and let us transmit this heritage to our children. [Joseph believed the Khazars had once had diplomatic relations with the Spanish Arabs.]

You ask us also in your epistle: "Of what people, of what family, and of what tribe are you?" Know that we are descended from Japheth, through his son Togarmah. [In Jewish literature Togarmah is the father of all the Turks.] I have found in the genealogical books of my ancestors that Togarmah had ten sons. These are their names: the eldest was Ujur, the second Tauris, the third Avar, the fourth Uauz, the fifth Bizal, the sixth Tarna, the seventh Khazar, the eighth Janur, the ninth Bulgar, the tenth Sawir. [These are the mythical founders of tribes that once lived in the neighborhood of the Black and Caspian Seas.] I am a descendant of Khazar, the seventh son

2. Judaism existed BEFORE there were ever Idumean converts. Considering the term Ioudaismos, literally Judaism, appears 3 times in 2nd Maccabees (2 Maccabees 2:21, 8:1, & 14:38)

and the appearances from heaven to those who had gloriously performed brave deeds for Judaism. Though they were few in number, they took back the whole country, chased off the barbaric hordes

Judas, also named the Maccabee, and his companions went secretly into the villages and called together their relatives and those who continued to follow Judaism, enlisting a force of about six thousand soldiers.

Early on in the revolt, he had been put on trial for Judaism and risked body and soul for its cause.

3. The Idumeans/Edomites looked Identical to the Israelites.

From Josephus himself, a 1st century Jew historian.

http://www.ccel.org/j/josephus/works/ant-1.htm

6. Accordingly, Esau went out a hunting. But Rebeka (33) thinking it proper to have the supplication made for obtaining the favor of God to Jacob, and that without the consent of Isaac, bid him kill kids of the goats, and prepare a supper. So Jacob obeyed his mother, according to all her instructions. Now when the supper was got ready, he took a goat's skin, and put it about his arm, that by reason of its hairy roughness, he might by his father be believed to be Esau; for they being twins, and in all things else alike, differed only in this thing.

Genesis 25:24

So when her days were fulfilled for her to give birth, indeed there were twins in her womb

4. The claim that a million Jews fled into Africa was created by Rudolph Windsor (which was latered parroted by Dr Ben), and he claims it was between the time of Pompey and Julius, not 70 AD. The irony is he misquotes a passage from the Works of Josephus made by the translator, which states the following.

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/josephus/works/files/war-5.htm

(9) Here we see the true occasion of those vast numbers of Jews that were in Jerusalem during this siege by Titus, and perished therein; that the siege began at the feast of the passover, when such prodigious multitudes of Jews and proselytes of the gate were come from all parts of Judea, and from other countries, in order to celebrate that great festival. See the note B. VI. ch. 9. sect. 3. Tacitus himself informs us, that the number of men, women, and children in Jerusalem, when it was besieged by the Romans, as he had been informed. This information must have been taken from the Romans: for Josephus never recounts the numbers of those that were besieged, only he lets us know, that of the vulgar, carried dead out of the gates, and buried at the public charges, was the like number of 600,000, ch. viii. sect. 7. However, when Cestius Gallus came first to the siege, that sum in Tacitus is no way disagreeable to Josephus's history, though they were become much more numerous when Titus encompassed the city at the passover. As to the number that perished during this siege, Josephus assures us, as we shall see hereafter, they were 1,100,000, besides 97,000 captives. But Tacitus's history of the last part of this siege is not now extant; so we cannot compare his parallel numbers with those of Josephus.

5. There were WAAAAAY more than just a few Edomites practicing Judaism.

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/josephus/complete.ii.xiv.ix.html

Hyrcanus took also Dora and Marissa, cities of Idumea, and subdued all the Idumeans; and permitted them to stay in that country, if they would circumcise their genitals, and make use of the laws of the Jews; and they were so desirous of living in the country of their forefathers, that they submitted to the use of circumcision,418 and of the rest of the Jewish ways of living; at which time therefore this befell them, that they were hereafter no other than Jews.

And if the lord wasn't dealing with Edomites, WHY was Paul trying to save King Herod Agrippa?

Acts 26:24-29

And as he thus spake for himself, Festus said with a loud voice, Paul, thou art beside thyself; much learning doth make thee mad.

But he said, I am not mad, most noble Festus; but speak forth the words of truth and soberness.

For the king knoweth of these things, before whom also I speak freely: for I am persuaded that none of these things are hidden from him; for this thing was not done in a corner.

King Agrippa, believest thou the prophets? I know that thou believest.

Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.

And Paul said, I would to God, that not only thou, but also all that hear me this day, were both almost, and altogether such as I am, except these bonds.

And since you mentioned Israel, let's not forget mass amount of scriptures that prove the Israelites were a mixed people. Both due to intermarriage and the strangers from other nations who joined with them and became Israelites themselves. Such as Esther 8:17, Judith 14:10, Exodus 12:37-38, Ruth 1:16, Joshua 8:33-35, Ezekiel 47:21-23, 2 Samuel 6:10-11; 14-18; 18:31-32; 23:39, 1 Chronicles 2:17; 34-36; 11:39-46, 2 Kings 5, Acts 2:10 etc etc

In closing...

Actually nah, get up.

Bob Dylan said dude is giving you some real meat.

@Broke Wave is still waiting for you to address his post concerning meat in the following thread.

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/marv...e-answers-to-posts-youve-been-ducking.220279/

 

[Marvel]

They made up the holocaust.

They don't mourn the Natives of the Americas and the victims of the slave trade that died by the 100s of millions at the hand of the Europeans aka Edomites. So I do not shed a tear when I hear about the alleged few million of them that died in WW2. Why should we care about their plight when they never care about ours ya dig?

 

[Czar]

......

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/marv...e-answers-to-posts-youve-been-ducking.220279/

???? @Marvel

 

[Czar]

the Europeans aka Edomites. So

No European nation ever descended from Esau/Edom.

Moreover...

Esau wasn't white.

From Josephus himself, a 1st century Jew historian.

http://www.ccel.org/j/josephus/works/ant-1.htm

6. Accordingly, Esau went out a hunting. But Rebeka (33) thinking it proper to have the supplication made for obtaining the favor of God to Jacob, and that without the consent of Isaac, bid him kill kids of the goats, and prepare a supper. So Jacob obeyed his mother, according to all her instructions. Now when the supper was got ready, he took a goat's skin, and put it about his arm, that by reason of its hairy roughness, he might by his father be believed to be Esau; for they being twins, and in all things else alike, differed only in this thing.

Genesis 25:24

So when her days were fulfilled for her to give birth, indeed there were twins in her womb

@Marvel

 

[Marvel]

Another member added to the ignore list.

You are in the LORDs hands now

Hebrews 12
16 Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.

17 For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.

There is no place of repentance for Esau and his descendants....praise ye the LORD

 

[Broke Wave]

just like that it's over

 

[Czar]

Another member added to the ignore list.

You are in the LORDs hands now



There is no place of repentance for Esau and his descendants....praise ye the LORD

Address those posts coward. Adding anyone to your ignore list proves 1. Your arguments are weak and you can't stand behind them. 2. You have no answers for the ether being thrown at you.

Remember what 1 Thessalonians 5:21 says in your favorite bible translation.

Prove all things

 

[rapbeats]

black folks asking the wrong question.

the real question for a black person to ask about these so called jews we're talking about is this.

Can black people make the exact same moves they have made and continue to make without having everything taken away from us as per usual? YES OR NO

if the answer is NO. then why even ask the question about how did the jews do it if you cant do it yourself?

 

[Czar]

Hebrews 12
16 Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.

17 For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.

Too bad Hebrews 12:16 (or Genesis 25:29-34) isn't talking about meat.

Here go that old 1 West teaching of "You know so-called white people are Esau, cause they like their meat rare, RED, just like he did."

Which is really the most debunkable argument concerning Esau.



^Skip to 6:40 & watch til the end.

If you refuse to watch the video... Genesis 25:34 says he was given a Pottage of Lentils.

Genesis 25:34 Lexicon: Then Jacob gave Esau bread and lentil stew; and he ate and drank, and rose and went on his way. Thus Esau despised his birthright.
^OG Hebrew text.

Strong's Hebrew: 5742. עֲדָשִׁים (adashah) -- a lentil

Strong's Concordance
adashah: a lentil
Original Word:עֲדָשִׁים
Part of Speech:Noun Feminine
Transliteration:adashah
Phonetic Spellingaw-dawsh')
Short Definition:lentils

Strong's Hebrew: 5138. נָזִיד (nazid) -- something sodden or boiled, pottage

Strong's Concordance
nazid: something sodden or boiled, pottageOriginal Word:נָזִיד
Part of Speech:Noun Masculine
Transliteration:nazid
Phonetic Spellingnaw-zeed')
Short Definition:stew

In Hebrews 12:16, the word translated as meat in the KJV is in fact MEAL in greek.

Hebrews 12:16 Lexicon: that there be no immoral or godless person like Esau, who sold his own birthright for a single meal.
^OG Greek text

Strong's Greek: 1035. βρῶσις (brósis) -- eating, food

Strong's Concordance
brósis: eating, food
Original Word: βρῶσις, εως, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: brósis
Phonetic Spelling: (bro'-sis)
Short Definition: eating, food, a meal, rust
Definition: (a) abstr: eating, (b) food, a meal, (c) rust.

And is overwhelming translated as either meal or food in the majority of translations.

Hebrews 12:16

New International Version
See that no one is sexually immoral, or is godless like Esau, who for a single meal sold his inheritance rights as the oldest son.

New Living Translation
Make sure that no one is immoral or godless like Esau, who traded his birthright as the firstborn son for a single meal.

English Standard Version
that no one is sexually immoral or unholy like Esau, who sold his birthright for a single meal.

New American Standard Bible
that there be no immoral or godless person like Esau, who sold his own birthright for a single meal.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
And make sure that there isn't any immoral or irreverent person like Esau, who sold his birthright in exchange for one meal.

International Standard Version
No one should be immoral or godless like Esau, who sold his birthright for a single meal.

NET Bible
And see to it that no one becomes an immoral or godless person like Esau, who sold his own birthright for a single meal.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Or lest a man be found among you as a fornicator, or debauched, like Esau, who for one meal sold his birthright.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Make sure that no one commits sexual sin or is as concerned about earthly things as Esau was. He sold his rights as the firstborn son for a single meal.

Jubilee Bible 2000
lest there be any fornicator or profane person as Esau, who for one morsel of food sold his birthright.

King James 2000 Bible
Lest there be any immoral, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of food sold his birthright.

Darby Bible Translation
lest [there be] any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one meal sold his birthright;

Webster's Bible Translation
Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of food sold his birth-right.

Weymouth New Testament
lest there be a fornicator, or an ungodly person like Esau, who, in return for a single meal, parted with the birthright which belonged to him.

World English Bible
lest there be any sexually immoral person, or profane person, like Esau, who sold his birthright for one meal.

Young's Literal Translation
lest any one be a fornicator, or a profane person, as Esau, who in exchange for one morsel of food did sell his birthright,

Douay-Rheims Bible
Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau; who for one mess, sold his first birthright.

But you trust the KJV huh?

Song of Solomon 5:10
King James Bible
My beloved is white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.

This dude's whole polemic concerning rare steaks is centered around a false belief in Esau. who he believes was somehow white and enjoyed eating bloody meat, even though the bible translation he cites (KJV) incorrectly renders the Greek word for meal as meat..

Hebrews 12:16 Greek Text Analysis
Strong's Greek: 1035. βρῶσις (brósis) -- eating, food

brósis: eating, food
Original Word: βρῶσις, εως, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: brósis
Phonetic Spelling: (bro'-sis)
Short Definition: eating, food, a meal, rust
Definition: (a) abstr: eating, (b) food, a meal, (c) rust.

Not to menton the Old Testament verse Hebrews 12:16 is citing clearly says it was a LENTIL STEW, not bloody meat

Genesis 25:29-34
Once when Jacob was cooking some stew, Esau came in from the open country, famished. He said to Jacob, “Quick, let me have some of that red stew!)" I’m famished!” (That is why he was also called Edom.)
Jacob replied, “First sell me your birthright"
“Look, I am about to die,” Esau said. “What good is the birthright to me?”
But Jacob said, “Swear to me first.” So he swore an oath to him, selling his birthright to Jacob.
Then Jacob gave Esau some bread and some lentil stew. He ate and drank, and then got up and left.
So Esau despised his birthright.

And what color is lentil stew?

But if by some miracle Esau actually DID like his meats rare, his father Isaac must've liked them too, since Esau hunted and prepared his favorite meals.

Genesis 25:28
Now Isaac loved Esau, because he had a taste for game, but Rebekah loved Jacob.

Genesis 27:1-4
Now it came to pass, when Isaac was old and his eyes were so dim that he could not see, that he called Esau his older son and said to him, “My son.” And he answered him, “Here I am.”
Then he said, “Behold now, I am old. I do not know the day of my death. Now therefore, please take your weapons, your quiver and your bow, and go out to the field and hunt game for me. And make me savory food, such as I love, and bring it to me that I may eat, that my soul may bless you before I die.”

@Marvel has no common sense. That's why he won't even address your post. You were absolutely right and he can't admit it, which is common trait among "Hebrew-Israelite" types.

 

[Vandelay]

Pickup the merchant of Venice...


This isn't a new phenomena.

Basically supporting each other much more than other ethnic groups. The hatepeople have for them helped it congeal a little better too.

 

[-G$-]

@Marvel wanted no parts of that work

 

[Czar]

Well here is some anthropology for you to confirm the truth about Esau, who you love so much.

Mount Seir in Ancient Edom was Esau's first home. It is now known as Petra in modern day Jordan, where the land of Edom was located.

Doesn't that structure look familiar....hmmm

He also uses the symbol of the Eagle for his people and has done since the Greek and Roman empires...hmmmm

Ancient Greece

All Edomite empires use the eagle as their symbol including the USA

Does the phrase: "The Eagle has landed" mean anything to you?



Proof that Edom (the so-called white man) set his home among the stars when he did this:

From the US National Archives. I think that is a good enough anthropological source



His descendants initially lived in caves in Mount Seir, in Ancient Edom modern day Petra....hmmm

As their population grew they left and lived in caves in Europe, starting with the Caucasus mountains where you guessed they dwelt in caves like their forefather Esau. There is the anthropology according to the Word of God

You seem to forget the Egyptians, Sumerians, Assyrians and Babylonians also used the Eagle as their symbol

Then again, you also believe they were "dark skinned caucasians"


Furthermore you cannot make an Edom-Greece, Rome or America connection, considering Deuteronomy 28:36 & 49 states that a nation swift as an eagle would come against Israel. One who's language they would not understand and that they nor their forefathers had known.

They and their forefathers KNEW the Edomites and understood their language. Esau was Jacob's twin brother.

Still not convinced?

Israel mentioned the Edomites during their song in Exodus 15:15. They asked the king of Edom for permission to cross through his country in Numbers 20:14. The Edomites are mentioned two times in the same book (Deuteronomy 2:3-9, 23:7) BEFORE the curses in chapter 28!

This is why "Hebrew-Israelite" theology (or so-called theology) is so debunkable.