How did the Pac/Jay Z beef get started?

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Damn so the don was able to exto....er, get a financial gift from Jay because they were friends after he dissed him. Im glad to see brehs working things out like that.

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Then took it back :laugh:

I forget what interview but Klein changed his tune. He was just trying to discredit Jay because he put him on hold when he wanted him to pay "homage".

He broke it down on some interview, if I find it I'll post it.

But it basically goes, Klein get's home and wants some money. Jay not being a fukking idiot suggests rather than just cash him out and looking mad suspicious (It's been implied that Klein did time for Jay so he could continue rappin) he suggests like a like 10 million dollar investment to go toward whatever business project, but it had to be organized and he told Klein to make it "make sense".

He took that as disrespect initially and started going in on his street cred until they worked something out, then he changed his tune. He wanted his money how and when he wanted it. These nikkas were shook to even talk to each other on the phone due to not wanting to arousing suspicion..da fukk you think is gonna happen if y'all start exchanging millions of dollars directly?
 

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It reminds me of when AR-AB sided with the rap pawns from his city after dissing them then being cleaned up on some under the table ish.



Klein was mad at Jay because he was trying to avoid a Murda Inc situation where you slide OG some bread only for him to get back into his old habits...

He says in this video here that he shouldn't have done those interviews and that Jay was right to protect himself.
 

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Damn so the don was able to exto....er, get a financial gift from Jay because they were friends after he dissed him. Im glad to see brehs working things out like that.

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Jay was gonna take care of him anyway, he was just trying to cover his bases. Klein got mad because his lil homie had the chips and was calling the plays...I'm sure that felt awkward :laugh:

If he did in fact eat those charges for Jay so he could continue rappin he owed him more than 10 mill IMO.
 

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Yup. It validates what he says about Jay. He extrapolated on his exploits as a foot soldier but hey, thats what sells so...

:why:

I sold nicks & dimes and blows in HS but I aint have any rank either.

I missed my calling ..:to:

Jay was gonna take care of him anyway, he was just trying to cover his bases. Klein got mad because his lil homie had the chips and was calling the plays...I'm sure that felt awkward :laugh:

If he did in fact eat those charges for Jay so he could continue rappin he owed him more than 10 mill IMO.
 
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And, nothing... that's what I said in the first place, and again...

While you said I was 'misrepresenting' facts.

I was STATING facts.
No, you were misrepresenting them. You said a lot more than that which I responded to. But be proud of your fact which ultimately means nothing.
 

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Pac was talking shyt about Hatian Jack describing him as a hanger on,and playing that nikka to the left,thats a diss enough....Plus he explains why he didn't diss Hatian and Jimmy as brutally out the gate,had to get his money right,now he wanted war:manny:

Are we pretending Pac didn't declare war on them nikkas,just because he ended up getting himself killed before the song came out:laff:?That shyt still happened and goes to show Pac wasn't shaking in his boots over Jimmy and Hatian like nikkas is in here talkin about @DANJ:sas2:

He shytted on the lil nikkas/pawns for fun, who was talkin shyt and wouldn't mind they business first,then he was going after the big piece:banderas:

Who cares if he didn't diss nikkas in the order that you would've liked,Even I don't think Pac needed to diss everybody he dissed,or had valid reasons(Ice Cube for example)....or saying he could destroy Rakim,KRS,LL if he wanted to was uncalled for,he was at the top of the game and feelin himself,they all could've responded if they disagreed....But the Dead President video clearly shows Jay-z had it coming.

Pac wasn't unreasonable,if you had a good reason as to why it shouldn't be beef,apoligized or explained that Pac took it the wrong way,beefs got squashed....squashed beef with Nas,squashed beef with Chino XL.

Other less fortunate rappers was begging for attention and wanted to be apart of the east/west shyt,or inserted themselves in a sensitive situation,and got what they asked for.
 

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Anybody callin Pac out is under 27 y/o or lacks critical thinking skills. This shyt was about some real live muder & extortion sh!t. Suge & Pac beating Puffy's boy up in the club to get Puff's momma's address is way beyond rap beef.


:francis:

Pac's bodyguard was right imo, Pac didnt understand the need for extra security after Hit em up, and he wouldnt shut up & stay out of the drama and let the outlawz handle the grimey sh!t like they told him they would. Nikka shouldve dropped the tough talk and got revenge on some quiet Kill Bill ish.

Pac was talking shyt about Hatian Jack describing him as a hanger on,and playing that nikka to the left,thats a diss enough....Plus he explains why he didn't diss Hatian and Jimmy as brutally out the gate,had to get his money right,now he wanted war:manny:

Are we pretending Pac didn't declare war on them nikkas,just because he ended up getting himself killed before the song came out:laff:?That shyt still happened and goes to show Pac wasn't shaking in his boots over Jimmy and Hatian like nikkas is in here talkin about @DANJ:sas2:

He shytted on the lil nikkas/pawns for fun, who was talkin shyt and wouldn't mind they business first,then he was going after the big piece:banderas:

Who cares if he didn't diss nikkas in the order that you would've liked,Even I don't think Pac needed to diss everybody he dissed,or had valid reasons(Ice Cube for example)....or saying he could destroy Rakim,KRS,LL if he wanted to was uncalled for,he was at the top of the game and feelin himself,they all could've responded if they disagreed....But the Dead President video clearly shows Jay-z had it coming.

Pac wasn't unreasonable,if you had a good reason as to why it shouldn't be beef,apoligized or explained that Pac took it the wrong way,beefs got squashed....squashed beef with Nas,squashed beef with Chino XL.

Other less fortunate rappers was begging for attention and wanted to be apart of the east/west shyt,or inserted themselves in a sensitive situation,and got what they asked for.
 

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That 2 much WEST COAST DIKK licking verse by JAY Z got Pac heated

And made him guilty by association



And it was a PRE EMPTIVE strike ..he knew JAY had some hoe azz ways and was gonna try to position himself as the new KING OF NYC when the dust settled

And Jay proved his theory right

That's a shot at NY rappers, why would Pac be mad at that?
 

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he eventually would have gotten at some of those peoples u named

anywayz
the outlawz shyt - cant remember were i read/hear it
BUT i do remember 1 of dem saying exactly that shyt about only going after jay cause biggie didnt respond to them

This sounds like it could be from the interview with Fatal; read my post back on Page 3.
 
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The true story might never be told but it turned into so much side choosing tribalism/gang warfare over one man..
:francis:
Pac vs. BMF/bad boy following the quad studio shooting... then...

Pac vs BMF & bad boy and anybody that dissed him after his downfall including rival east coast rappers..

And bad boy vs. Death row
:francis:
And east coast rappers vs west coast rappers who had no dog in the fight....


THEN Crips being paid by Puffy for Cali protection vs. MOB bloods


Truth be told it was really just Pac vs. Bmf and it could've should've stayed there instead of expanding.

I wonder if Puff is still being extorted but I think that like the Lox says, he has the "National Guard" downstairs in the lobby of his bldg.

Its the same way with Dre being too powerful to squeeze in Cali...

You get big enough and you can be untouchable granted you can afford ex Navy Seals to protect you then you can brag about being rich to hood nikkas from the comfort of a secluded mansion somewhere.
 

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Yup. It validates what he says about Jay. He extrapolated on his exploits as a foot soldier but hey, thats what sells so...

:why:

I sold nicks & dimes and blows in HS but I aint have any rank either.

I missed my calling ..:to:
Jay Z moved weight though...not nicks and dimes. Fact.
 

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Is that you Memphis Bleek?
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If Jay held true to his promise and you dont have to rap again to be rich, I understand your support. I disagree that you've been 1 hit away your whole career tho B.

Jay Z moved weight though...not nicks and dimes. Fact.
 
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