How did the Pac/Jay Z beef get started?

[shopthatwrecks]

fair enough - i aint gonna question anybody who takes clef as a somewhat deceitful individual

BUT, with that said....

u have to look at pac in the same light - everybody on record affiliated with his quad shooting - agrees that pac knew biggie had nothing to do with it YET pac ran with it till his very last day on earth

real talk

yep deep down on the inside..he knew should have listen to big n mike tyson



fame was dedicated to biggie..it was an apology..face said this back in a interview with jmac n mad hatta. on the radio in houston..

..they asked him bout pac...he said one of the last times they talked...he said he kept sayin the hook for fame over n over..face goes huh u trippin..wha u smokin on kuz what u sayin its deep,,said they got to talkin bout movies gridlockd came up..n he went back to fame hook again..

then he goes man this bullshyt is way bigger than us...n said he hope he hears him loud n clear...

face said when he got the better dayz album

he was blown away said if u go backk n listen..u be the judge..but it sounded like it was apology

ion hold a lot of shyt face say to head..but after hearin it then goin back n listenin 2 the song...

 

[Renzo]

yep deep down on the inside..he knew should have listen to big n mike tyson



fame was dedicated to biggie..it was an apology..face said this back in a interview with jmac n mad hatta. on the radio in houston..

..they asked him bout pac...he said one of the last times they talked...he said he kept sayin the hook for fame over n over..face goes huh u trippin..wha u smokin on kuz what u sayin its deep,,said they got to talkin bout movies gridlockd came up..n he went back to fame hook again..

then he goes man this bullshyt is way bigger than us...n said he hope he hears him loud n clear...

face said when he got the better dayz album

he was blown away said if u go backk n listen..u be the judge..but it sounded like it was apology

ion hold a lot of shyt face say to head..but after hearin it then goin back n listenin 2 the song...

Makes sense, he started really going hard on Puffy..on Toss it up he even mentions what I assume is the Sept issue of Vibe that came out in August of 96 which had a interview with Biggie and Puff..but he says ''Puffy I read your interview, I dont care if you kiss my ass from here to across the street'' not a mention of Biggie at all..Seems Pac was cooling on Big and really bout to go after Puff and all them other nikkas..Random note..I could see how he could be pissed at big though...If my man came to me and was like ''yo watch them nikkas'' and you like huh what you talking bout and he like ''oh Ill tell you later'' and then you end up getting popped by them same nikkas, you going be like that nikka knew something ahead of time...even if he didnt..it gave the appearance that he knew something was bout to pop off..but thats just my view

 

[kingofnyc]

yep deep down on the inside..he knew should have listen to big n mike tyson



fame was dedicated to biggie..it was an apology..face said this back in a interview with jmac n mad hatta. on the radio in houston..

..they asked him bout pac...he said one of the last times they talked...he said he kept sayin the hook for fame over n over..face goes huh u trippin..wha u smokin on kuz what u sayin its deep,,said they got to talkin bout movies gridlockd came up..n he went back to fame hook again..

then he goes man this bullshyt is way bigger than us...n said he hope he hears him loud n clear...

face said when he got the better dayz album

he was blown away said if u go backk n listen..u be the judge..but it sounded like it was apology

ion hold a lot of shyt face say to head..but after hearin it then goin back n listenin 2 the song...

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

fair enough - i aint gonna question anybody who takes clef as a somewhat deceitful individual

BUT, with that said....

u have to look at pac in the same light - everybody on record affiliated with his quad shooting - agrees that pac knew biggie had nothing to do with it YET pac ran with it till his very last day on earth

real talk

i dont recall pac ever claiming biggie had anything to do with it.

he felt like big left him hangin. and biggie's own peoples are on record saying that the way biggie handled the situation, made matters worse.

Consider the fact that Big completely ignored Pac, even trolled him on RD. Taking Pacs angry and loud diss towards Bigs family and turning it into a joke and laughing.

this doesnt make sense.

did biggie ignore him or did he troll him? which one is it?

 

[Harry B]

this doesnt make sense.

did biggie ignore him or did he troll him? which one is it?

He ignored his anger and dissing, he didn't take the bait.
With all the interviews Pac did + the records, Big only said that Pac was nice rapper and he didn't know or care about how he was feeling with the . Then moved on to talk about how he was winning in life and how happy he was. He trolled him with the if Fay' had twins line, alluding to how insignificant the diss was.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

He ignored his anger and dissing, he didn't take the bait.
With all the interviews Pac did + the records, Big only said that Pac was nice rapper and he didn't know or care about how he was feeling with the . Then moved on to talk about how he was winning in life and how happy he was. He trolled him with the if Fay' had twins line, alluding to how insignificant the diss was.

if youre trolling someone, then that means that youre taking time out to give them attention. hence, biggie didnt ignore pac.

also, biggie was sneak-dissin his ass off breh.

 

[Harry B]

if youre trolling someone, then that means that youre taking time out to give them attention. hence, biggie didnt ignore pac.

also, biggie was sneak-dissin his ass off breh.

Are we in court? Everyone understands what I mean when I say ignore.
Not getting engaging in the beef, no hostile feelings etc. That trolling line just added to what he was saying in interviews, he wasn't trying to waste his time on negative energy.

 

[MufasaChoppa]

its a known industry secret that jay-z was at quad studios the night pac got shot

 

[kingofnyc]

i dont recall pac ever claiming biggie had anything to do with it.

he felt like big left him hangin. and biggie's own peoples are on record saying that the way biggie handled the situation, made matters worse.

are u serious...
he clearly stated multiple times that biggie knew what was gonna go down

and who are these biggie peepz that said he handle the situation wrong???

 

[Zero]

i mean if he knew who chino xl was im sure he knew who jay-z was lmao.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[BulletProof]

Are we in court? Everyone understands what I mean when I say ignore.
Not getting engaging in the beef, no hostile feelings etc. That trolling line just added to what he was saying in interviews, he wasn't trying to waste his time on negative energy.

He kicked Faith out the house just because Pac claimed to fukk her.

And that infamous picture.

But Biggie never had the balls to straight call out Pac.

Against All Odds proved he was ready for bigger fish to fry.

 

[Harry B]

He kicked Faith out the house just because Pac claimed to fukk her.

And that infamous picture.

But Biggie never had the balls to straight call out Pac.

Against All Odds proved he was ready for bigger fish to fry.

Didn't know he kicked her out, I can't find anything on the internet either. But did she say that it was due to that? And not due to the fact that she was hanging out with people trying to assassinate his character?

 

[BulletProof]

Didn't know he kicked her out, I can't find anything on the internet either. But did she say that it was due to that? And not due to the fact that she was hanging out with people trying to assassinate his character?

She didn't say why and Big was always tight lipped when it came to Pac.

But she definitely got the boot.

I never been much of a Biggie fan but I give him props for that.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Are we in court? Everyone understands what I mean when I say ignore.
Not getting engaging in the beef, no hostile feelings etc. That trolling line just added to what he was saying in interviews, he wasn't trying to waste his time on negative energy.

yes he did.

he was constantly dissin pac on the sly.

thats the worse type of negative energy. sneaky devil chit.

are u serious...
he clearly stated multiple times that biggie knew what was gonna go down

and who are these biggie peepz that said he handle the situation wrong???

thats two different things.

again, he didnt accuse biggie of being in on it.

he was mad because he thinks or knows that biggie knew what was going down and left him hangin.

i dont know who exactly. i think it was the big dude d-roc or whatever. he stated the obvious, that biggie couldve contacted or visited pac and this whole chit with big/pac couldve prolly been squashed.

She didn't say why and Big was always tight lipped when it came to Pac.

But she definitely got the boot.

I never been much of a Biggie fan but I give him props for that.

re-enacted in the "get money" video.

assist to charli.