How did the Pac/Jay Z beef get started?

[SunZoo]

and i love that fact u & the other dude completely ignored the main fact of my post to this thread (( outlawz ))

The only fact that has been ignored is how you continue to gloss over blatant shots at Pac and the west coast in his video. Him being Big's friend and the sly dissin go hand in hand. Why ain't Busta catch any strays? There were plenty of associates to pick from if that was the case, he just so happened to pick one that put his own head on the swivel being a dikk rider...as usual.

Then you got Jay talmbout "I'll run into Pac, ask him where we went wrong" like he ain't shoot that video

 

[SunZoo]

And stop acting like y'all wasn't bumping Fox I'll NANa album in 96 that was a monster . I could go on 95-96 is when rap shifted back east that west coast shyt was dying

See this is what I'm talking about.

These delusional east coast nikkas....

This is why yall lost the grip on the game and started having to emulate other coasts, sounds and trends to get your shyt off. You callin nikkas "bammas" for not bumping a fukking Foxy Brown album, nikka get ALL the fukk the way outta here with that.


Two years later "When the fukk we start bouncin?"

 

[Afromaticz]

AZ and Foxy?

AZ was in the Dead Prez video were Pac was gettin clowned..when Pac called out The Firm it was more of a shot at Nas Az and Dre who was producing for the firm than anything..

Cormega and Fox never even took that shyt as a diss since they both was very close with Fatal.

 

[blackslash]

I'm pretty sure that was Biggs saying that shyt.

Funny enough...he's in Prison for being a weed carrier...



So the subs in that video weren't grounds for Jay to get dissed?

Maybe maybe not I'm speaking on pac in general
And I'm just Talm bout the fact that pac dealt with his emotions like a female
That nikka always let his emotions get the best of him
I can only pin it on the fact that he had no father in his life but even that's a stretch
But yea pac was the 90's kanye
And while those types can make good music and provide fukkery they are generally the types that do the dikkhead homotional nikka sht and are only looked up to by fatherless nikkaz who crave someone to look up to

 

[Loop Ba$eCrawler]

He went at Jay-z for the made up drug dealer raps mostly. That was part of his issue with Biggie as well as the whole getting setup/shot by Puffy. Tupac didn't care for rappers that rapped about lives they never lived....He would've been a gray haired old man these days if he lived with all of the people he would've had to continue calling out since Puffy/Biggie/Jay-z made the fake drug dealer and rich lifestyle raps popular.

 

[NewWaveEra]

Pac versus Jay. Pac would lost by definition. Because he was an emotional, paranoid, all kinds of female ways cultivating, impulsive and insecure biatch. He was DMX, but in gay and in fake.

Jiggas cool would make Pac look like a clown. And Pac was never a man to me, he was always a little fatherless boy behaving bad. Where Jay-Z didn't smoke weed and created an empire, Pac drank, took E and smoked his damn mind out and lost his life to the effects of the resulting psychosis.

 

[Afromaticz]

STOP IT

pac beef(s) was the blueprint for 50 cent beef(s)


basically if u stand next to the nikka he was beefing with -u are guilty by association

Nope not true bruh...

How come Pac never called out CNN? Trag? Why was Pac still very close with Heavy D who was associated with Bad Boy/Uptown heavily...

Treach one of Pac's closest friends even went on tour with Bad Boy and Pac never caught feelings so naw bruh

and u keep bringin up that story about how one of the outlawz said they went at Jay for no reason how come u never posted that shyt...i knw most of the outlawz personally since way back and from what i was told there were numerous reasons as to why Pac got at Jay..

 

[SunZoo]

Maybe maybe not I'm speaking on pac in general
And I'm just Talm bout the fact that pac dealt with his emotions like a female
That nikka always let his emotions get the best of him
I can only pin it on the fact that he had no father in his life but even that's a stretch
But yea pac was the 90's kanye
And while those types can make good music and provide fukkery they are generally the types that do the dikkhead homotional nikka sht and are only looked up to by fatherless nikkaz who crave someone to look up to

I ain't look up to Pac as much as I felt like I understood him, because I went through similar shyt. Having testosterone and also being forced to model your emotional intelligence from the women in your life can be a dangerous mix as well as a blessing.

 

[Poh SIti Dawn]

Cuz the Fugees didn't have the biggest rap album that year

Fugees from Jersey tho

 

[SunZoo]

Nope not true bruh...

How come Pac never called out CNN? Trag? Why was Pac still very close with Heavy D who was associated with Bad Boy/Uptown heavily...

Treach one of Pac's closest friends even went on tour with Bad Boy and Pac never caught feelings so naw bruh

and u keep bringin up that story about how one of the outlawz said they went at Jay for no reason how come u never posted that shyt...i knw most of the outlawz personally since way back and from what i was told there were numerous reasons as to why Pac got at Jay..

Exactly, plenty of "associates" to throw shots at but he just so happens to single out Jay for absolutely no reason...

 

[SunZoo]

Pac versus Jay. Pac would lost by definition.

Let's be reality...this is what a 2pac diss from Jay Z in 96 sounds like...

Pac woulda ate this wack shyt...we ain't talking about Dominant era Jay Z that was comfortable enough in his position to go at Nas willy nilly...he had a weak voice, weak beats, no rep outside of NY...he would have got shytted on in 96, PERIOD.

 

[Afromaticz]

Or else what fakkit?

His videos are the truth.

He' s right for the most part in his videos but he loves to add shyt for clicks and views

 

[Family Man]

He went at Jay-z for the made up drug dealer raps mostly. That was part of his issue with Biggie as well as the whole getting setup/shot by Puffy. Tupac didn't care for rappers that rapped about lives they never lived....He would've been a gray haired old man these days if he lived with all of the people he would've had to continue calling out since Puffy/Biggie/Jay-z made the fake drug dealer and rich lifestyle raps popular.

First off, if a nikka ain't at least 33 years old they shouldn't even be posting in this thread. With that said, PAC is probably the biggest phony of that era. That's what got his ass killed. Dude was method acting the whole time.
Yes I was of age around that time and I knew what the fukk happened unlike some of y'all nikkas in this thread. This is a topic strictly for us old heads

 

[Poh SIti Dawn]

Dont see how people call Pac emotional when Jay calling into the radio years later with tears in his eyes, speaking careless whispers like George Michael into the phone

Or how they said Big was screaming and crying when he confronted Faith about that pic of her and Pac...

Y'all be lying, and all 3 of them were raised by single mothers so y'all are idiots.

 

[onelastdeath]

Man these guys were impactful. nikkas really in here debating 20 years later. True Impact. This is what makes that generation so classic. Not just the music, but because the culture was very much alive. You can feel how authentic it was simply because we're still here talking about this shyt 20'years after the fact.