How did the Pac/Jay Z beef get started?

[Danie84]

I wish Pac/Nas hit up a studio, after the MTV Awards, tho

 

[blackslash]

What's Kanye's reason for being angry?


Pac was betrayed by niccaz close to him, shot up, and framed for rape.

Kanye just wants to be accepted by white folks.That's the root of his anger.He's crying out for them to accept him.

All that "Bush doesn't care about black people" shyt was just him saying "Please love me Mr.White Man"

I see all through Kanye.Lotta house negro traits in his DNA.

Pac wore his emotions on his sleeve, but it was a different kind of emotion.He actually had a reason to be pissed off after what happened to him....the paranoia mostly came from his family roots.He knew a nicca named "Tupac Shakur" would become a target in the game.He witnessed COINTEL Pro tactics first hand.


Pac was an altogether different kind of cat than Kanye

Don't use the word altogether and pac in the same sentence
Men don't commit actions based on emotion men are to have a good handle on their emotions
Pac did not..his wreck less bipolar ass was the epitome of a female when it came to his handle of his emotion
Again those are the types that usually get the fatherless stans (pac, kanye etc) but at the end of the day no man with an actual proper father figure would look at pac's female tendencies as something to celebrate
Men are to exhibit self control, be calculated and move on thought before feeling. Pac is the antithesis of that

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Don't use the word altogether and pac in the same sentence
Men don't commit actions based on emotion men are to have a good handle on their emotions
Pac did not..his wreck less bipolar ass was the epitome of a female when it came to his handle of his emotion
Again those are the types that usually get the fatherless stans (pac, kanye etc) but at the end of the day no man with an actual proper father figure would look at pac's female tendencies as something to celebrate
Men are to exhibit self control, be calculated and move on thought before feeling. Pac is the antithesis of that

Man, that's just your theory on shyt.

 

[kingofnyc]

The only fact that has been ignored is how you continue to gloss over blatant shots at Pac and the west coast in his video. Him being Big's friend and the sly dissin go hand in hand. Why ain't Busta catch any strays? There were plenty of associates to pick from if that was the case, he just so happened to pick one that put his own head on the swivel being a dikk rider...as usual.

Then you got Jay talmbout "I'll run into Pac, ask him where we went wrong" like he ain't shoot that video

again, explain to me how in the fukk is this a pac diss
if fay has twins she'.d problaly have 2 pacs get it tupac
when dude been running his mouth about fukking faith
((( its a faith diss )))

and

u say blatant - HOW is the ... is biggs saying cali there a lotta money there then a pause with biggie saying who shot ya remotely blatant - u just trying to make excuses breh

 

[3rdWorld]

Because Pac was a paranoid schizoid. He was mad at anybody from the east making better music than him..

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

I'm exhausted of this subject.I'm retiring

Been battling in these type of threads for damn near 12 years.I'm weary.

Catch me over in the coliseum

 

[kingofnyc]

He went at Jay-z for the made up drug dealer raps mostly. That was part of his issue with Biggie as well as the whole getting setup/shot by Puffy. Tupac didn't care for rappers that rapped about lives they never lived....He would've been a gray haired old man these days if he lived with all of the people he would've had to continue calling out since Puffy/Biggie/Jay-z made the fake drug dealer and rich lifestyle raps popular.

at this stupid shyt

 

[blackslash]

Man, that's just your theory on shyt.

No nikka I'm speaking reality

 

[Imlinkin]

Yup...Just like Meek Mill. Meek got shot in that famous Toronto studio and Drake and all them 6ix nikkas was in attendance reacting strangely as he entered the room bleeding to death...Mills was being recruited by Drake's muscle, them goon music dons but he refused to sign with OVO... Then, how come Meek got death threats while he was laid up in the hospital the next day and claimed that Drake owed him better than to not say anything knowing that nikkas was about to blow Meek's head off... Hell, Meek used to stop his whole show to let Drake get some shine..he was responsible for some of Drake's success.. And I remember how Drake's people were the ones that invited Meek to the studio that fateful night...damn, almost the EXACT SAME SCENARIO



5 shots is NO reason to be paranoid.. Truuuu

And I fukks wit Pac heavy, but ... yeah, this.

His reasons for some of that dissin' shyt was half-controversy, half-emotions... cause some of that shyt he caught feelin's about was outta nowhere... it is every bit the equivalent of Meek Mill gettin' mad at nikkas over social media. Pac in '96 ain't the Pac in '93 that fukked with everybody from NY to Cali. That guy had the battery in his back, and was just goin' at nikkas for any reason he could think of.

 

[Jack Trippa 3z company ho]

Pac versus Jay. Pac would lost by definition. Because he was an emotional, paranoid, all kinds of female ways cultivating, impulsive and insecure biatch. He was DMX, but in gay and in fake.

Jiggas cool would make Pac look like a clown. And Pac was never a man to me, he was always a little fatherless boy behaving bad. Where Jay-Z didn't smoke weed and created an empire, Pac drank, took E and smoked his damn mind out and lost his life to the effects of the resulting psychosis.

You're delusional breh. Dead or Alive sounds like some pretty Kid Capri beat that you'd jam on a warm summer day. Jay made the track (which says nothing, ESPECIALLY not Pac's name) and then quickly buried it cuz Pac would have ended his career before it started.

Most of y'all clearly weren't really around during that era. Absolutely no one, including the king of NY would dare say Pac's name on any official release. They were terrified of him.

 

[Jack Trippa 3z company ho]

Dont see how people call Pac emotional when Jay calling into the radio years later with tears in his eyes, speaking careless whispers like George Michael into the phone

 

[Juggalo Fred]

I wish Pac/Nas hit up a studio, after the MTV Awards, tho

Closest we got was Don't stop by nas and dpg in 95 and then pac and dpg did a remake of it in 96

 

[jeh]

 

[kingofnyc]

Nope not true bruh...

How come Pac never called out CNN? Trag? Why was Pac still very close with Heavy D who was associated with Bad Boy/Uptown heavily...

Treach one of Pac's closest friends even went on tour with Bad Boy and Pac never caught feelings so naw bruh

and u keep bringin up that story about how one of the outlawz said they went at Jay for no reason how come u never posted that shyt...i knw most of the outlawz personally since way back and from what i was told there were numerous reasons as to why Pac got at Jay..

he eventually would have gotten at some of those peoples u named

anywayz
the outlawz shyt - cant remember were i read/hear it
BUT i do remember 1 of dem saying exactly that shyt about only going after jay cause biggie didnt respond to them


even the biggest pac stan/biggie hater on here co-signed this
u know the pedophile who has the amir mohammad avi (holla at him for the info)

 

[TheProfessor]

I never said he didn't have a right to be infuriated about being set up and shot...

But spending a whole year lashing out at everybody except the nikkas who you know for a fact set you up... it's kinda like a girl who's bitter at every nikka in the world except for the one that broke her heart.

You're misrepresenting facts. Totally.