How did the Pac/Jay Z beef get started?

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I can retire from this thread now. You said it all.... Selective memory having nikkas keep leaving out the Quad. From fiddy to a real dude like my cuzzo, being shot apparently changes people...


Lots of tough guys on here would have handled it better I guess.

Im admitting that even Pac didnt really want it with the music industru goons, cats like Haitian Jack who damn near had the blessing of the alphabet boys to continue being a goon because he was on their payroll...:scust:


What's Kanye's reason for being angry?


Pac was betrayed by niccaz close to him, shot up, and framed for rape.

Kanye just wants to be accepted by white folks.That's the root of his anger.He's crying out for them to accept him.

All that "Bush doesn't care about black people" shyt was just him saying "Please love me Mr.White Man:to:"

I see all through Kanye.Lotta house negro traits in his DNA.

Pac wore his emotions on his sleeve, but it was a different kind of emotion.He actually had a reason to be pissed off after what happened to him....the paranoia mostly came from his family roots.He knew a nicca named "Tupac Shakur" would become a target in the game.He witnessed COINTEL Pro tactics first hand.


Pac was an altogether different kind of cat than Kanye
 
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I never said he didn't have a right to be infuriated about being set up and shot...

But spending a whole year lashing out at everybody except the nikkas who you know for a fact set you up... it's kinda like a girl who's bitter at every nikka in the world except for the one that broke her heart. :yeshrug:

Oh, so Stretch wasn't murdered exactly 1 year from the night Pac was shot at Quad? :martin:

I swear y'all just completely make things up talking out of your ass.
 

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RD= Reasonable Doubt But I thought OB4CL dropped in late 1995-96 but ok I know that summer we played the shyt out of those albums non stop.

OB4CL came out summer 95.

But I really have to constantly check the date cause the Heaven and Hell video dropped november 94, so I always associate it with 1994
 

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See this is what I'm talking about.

These delusional east coast nikkas....:dead:

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This is why yall lost the grip on the game and started having to emulate other coasts, sounds and trends to get your shyt off. You callin nikkas "bammas" for not bumping a fukking Foxy Brown album, nikka get ALL the fukk the way outta here with that.

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Two years later "When the fukk we start bouncin?" :stopitslime:


West coast was dead in the mid late 90s breh
 

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How did YOU handle being shot multiple times & walking upstairs bleeding to death where all of your associates were acting strangely in the studio???...

I dont even have time to look for the video, but Puffy said that Pac knew the guys who shot him obviously. Pac was just saying to botg of them, you owed me better than to not tip me off and stop claiming king of NY if youre a pawn. He was beefing with the real goons, refusing to be extorted. Best believe rappers were being taxed by Jack & his crew back then. Henchman was fcking Wyclef out of money too for a decade..

Don't use the word altogether and pac in the same sentence
Men don't commit actions based on emotion men are to have a good handle on their emotions
Pac did not..his wreck less bipolar ass was the epitome of a female when it came to his handle of his emotion
Again those are the types that usually get the fatherless stans (pac, kanye etc) but at the end of the day no man with an actual proper father figure would look at pac's female tendencies as something to celebrate
Men are to exhibit self control, be calculated and move on thought before feeling. Pac is the antithesis of that
 
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Also, lest we forget the MTV awards in '96? This was like a week before Pac got murdered.

Pac was walking around that night with huge placards in the air repping death row east. It is a known fact that Big, Puffy, and Jay all flew to MIAMI at that time cuz they knew Pac was gonna be there and wanted NO PARTS OF THAT:whoa:

The only one man enough to face him was NAS:ahh: and they squashed it.
 

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outkast came in the game riding the west wave. their whole style was bitten off of souls of mischief w/ alot of g-funk inspired beats.

ugk, 8ball & mgk had that west coast influence in them too.

no limit - yea of course. they were a west coast label period back then.

You west dudes think everyone took ur style
 

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Also, lest we forget the MTV awards in '96? This was like a week before Pac got murdered.

Pac was walking around that night with huge placards in the air repping death row east. It is a known fact that Big, Puffy, and Jay all flew to MIAMI at that time cuz they knew Pac was gonna be there and wanted NO PARTS OF THAT:whoa:

The only one man enough to face him was NAS:ahh: and they squashed it.
Nikka shut yo corny whiteboy ass up
 

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Peep the "Monopoly" bit. Keep in mind that this is a Jay Z song/video...and it's been stated that nikkas on the east coast was really meeting up behind the scenes.

Yep...and u peeped Dame Dash wit the "what is that cali,it's a lot of money there, I'm bout to take ALL the money out in cali:dame:"...the beef was clearly poppin back then, and even though puff and wolf wasn't at that table, they were in spirit, and probably at THE ACTUAL TABLE later that night ...PAC was crazy observant:jawalrus:(but after 92-93 Suge was probably controlling who came out to Cali and what money they got...clearly ny nikkas and labels were frustrated.)
 

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West coast was dead in the mid late 90s breh

The west coast "died" with Pac. Doesn't change the fact that once Hip Hop went regional NY had to surf boart on everybody else's dikk to get the spotlight back...and this isn't some WC bias cuz I'm not from out there even though I was raised on G-funk. Puffy himself admitted he was trying to recreate Doggystyle. A couple years later you got NY nikkas going at other NY nikkas for biting.
 

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"Puffys gettin' robbed like a bih and to hide that fact he dis some shyt he shouldnt have did so we ride him for that."

--2pac

Only 50 and Pac fought back AT ALL against the music industry goons. It showed that they had a little more heart than your favorite rappers who were quietly being taxed while spitting Don shyt on wax.

You all repping fukkbois who layed down for it? Yall team Wylclef, lil shawn and Puffy juice?

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The Reason Wyclef is Being Extorted by Haitian Jack is...
 
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The west coast "died" with Pac. Doesn't change the fact that once Hip Hop went regional NY had to surf boart on everybody else's dikk to get the spotlight back...and this isn't some WC bias cuz I'm not from out there even though I was raised on G-funk.


But ur still out there
So you still defend them

Jus like im originally from stl


And about your regional sound

Dmx(who dissed the west countless times) was the top dude 98 99
Ja
Nas
Jay z
Busta
Wu tang
50
Cam and Dipset
Mobb deep

I could go on

Ny had it from mid 90s to early 2000s

Big took the wave to the east and the whole city ran with it

There was no being on someone dikk
There was no1 dikk to be on...

West was dead

South didnt blow yet even tho cash money and no limit was hot
 

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First off, if a nikka ain't at least 33 years old they shouldn't even be posting in this thread. With that said, PAC is probably the biggest phony of that era. That's what got his ass killed. Dude was method acting the whole time.
Yes I was of age around that time and I knew what the fukk happened unlike some of y'all nikkas in this thread.


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Yea right son...
he eventually would have gotten at some of those peoples u named

anywayz
the outlawz shyt - cant remember were i read/hear it
BUT i do remember 1 of dem saying exactly that shyt about only going after jay cause biggie didnt respond to them


even the biggest pac stan/biggie hater on here co-signed this
u know the pedophile who has the amir mohammad avi (holla at him for the info)


How the hell would you knw what the nikka would have done or not lol stop it fam

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