How Did This Talib Kweli, Ebro Confrontation Go Unnoticed?

[Akademiks]

Nah you buggin, you should have at least listened to dudes song. Ain't nothing wrong with a dj breaking a new song from a new artist if it fits the mood of the event

if fool was really serious about breaking himself as an artist instead of CHASING an hype he wouldn't approach me during the MOST HYPED period of the night. He would have approached me initially when i walked in when i was chilling. when i was setting up ... hit me before on twitter ... anytime before that point. dude was chilling in the venue until the crowd started going wild then thought i should just switch up what the fukk im doing to appease him ..

you dudes dont dj so $300 sounds like the world to u ... i can easily make that at another event. no dude gonna just bytch me out on the set and tell me what to play when. Let me do me. appreciate my craft if you want me to appreciate you .. im already getting paid for the event. had it not be for the event i wouldn't meet this fukkboi anyway. why fukk up everyones vibe tryna play this idiots song.

Nyggas is chasing hypes not tryna establish themselves. Dude just wanted a 'new drake song' type reaction from the crowd and thats it. and he was willing to pay for that reaction. Wasn't interested in getting his song played at any other point during the night or at any other event that i did.

Dont chase the hype. believe me. feels good in the moment .. not long lasting though.

 

[hustlemania]

if fool was really serious about breaking himself as an artist instead of CHASING an hype he wouldn't approach me during the MOST HYPED period of the night. He would have approached me initially when i walked in when i was chilling. when i was setting up ... hit me before on twitter ... anytime before that point. dude was chilling in the venue until the crowd started going wild then thought i should just switch up what the fukk im doing to appease him ..

you dudes dont dj so $300 sounds like the world to u ... i can easily make that at another event. no dude gonna just bytch me out on the set and tell me what to play when. Let me do me. appreciate my craft if you want me to appreciate you .. im already getting paid for the event. had it not be for the event i wouldn't meet this fukkboi anyway. why fukk up everyones vibe tryna play this idiots song.

Nyggas is chasing hypes not tryna establish themselves. Dude just wanted a 'new drake song' type reaction from the crowd and thats it. and he was willing to pay for that reaction. Wasn't interested in getting his song played at any other point during the night or at any other event that i did.

Dont chase the hype. believe me. feels good in the moment .. not long lasting though.

i actually do DJ.. and for the record- $300 for a private event, aint really shyt

you fukkin yourself outta 3 bills so you can come back to the-coli and act like you have "integrity" is hilarious.. DJs break all kinds of records, all the time.. some do it for free.. you acting like you some big-time DJ that cant even give a artist a few minutes of your time, is laughable..

word to everything, DJs like you make me laugh.. yall swear yall the sh!t..

 

[L&HH]

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400 + lol. College Frats .. they wanted stroll music to show of their new comers. I just had got the crowd warmed up ... all loose aint tryna lose them w/ a song at that time. maybe during warm up when ppl were there but not going crazy yet. but when ppl singing every word to every song jumping up and down .. and dropping a song they like

I get what you're saying but I think I would have played it. It really would not have hurt the vibe of the party a s much as you think, 2-3min can't do that. You would have been able to get the crowd right back if it did.

 

[The Guru]

Who does the coli take payola from?

 

[OG Talk]

Who does the coli take payola from?

 

[Akademiks]

A secret society all we ask is trust

 

[W.I.Z.E.]

I've researched a few things Ebro has said, and like it or not, he makes strong points. Hot 97's core audience is 18-37 and not 12-17 yr olds. Yes people get paid to play music but NO ONE has named HIM directly.

Hot 97 and Power 105 in a war and like it or not Hot 97 has recently given up market share to Power 105 so in order to stay competitive, Hot 97 HAS to play a certain list of songs. 98.7 Kiss went out of business trying to play stuff they like as have many other stations like 89.9 (Stretch & Bobbito Show from the 90's). Yall wanna hear "real hip hop" etc. listen to Pandora or other streaming radio stations around the world. That'll drive more ears away from Hot 97 and force them to change their playlist.

Until then, especially on a site that ironically ups/stickies threads from Migos, YG, Yo Gotti, Rick Ross, etc. stop bytchin.

Ironically, this site is a reflection of these radio station playlists....an Eminem thread gets 100 views, Elzhi gets like 20.

 

[Akademiks]

I've researched a few things Ebro has said, and like it or not, he makes strong points. Hot 97's core audience is 18-37 and not 12-17 yr olds. Yes people get paid to play music but NO ONE has named HIM directly.

Hot 97 and Power 105 in a war and like it or not Hot 97 has recently given up market share to Power 105 so in order to stay competitive, Hot 97 HAS to play a certain list of songs. 98.7 Kiss went out of business trying to play stuff they like as have many other stations like 89.9 (Stretch & Bobbito Show from the 90's). Yall wanna hear "real hip hop" etc. listen to Pandora or other streaming radio stations around the world. That'll drive more ears away from Hot 97 and force them to change their playlist.

Until then, especially on a site that ironically ups/stickies threads from Migos, YG, Yo Gotti, Rick Ross, etc. stop bytchin.

Ironically, this site is a reflection of these radio station playlists....an Eminem thread gets 100 views, Elzhi gets like 20.

You've seen the light.

 

[OG Talk]

I've researched a few things Ebro has said, and like it or not, he makes strong points. Hot 97's core audience is 18-37 and not 12-17 yr olds. Yes people get paid to play music but NO ONE has named HIM directly.

Hot 97 and Power 105 in a war and like it or not Hot 97 has recently given up market share to Power 105 so in order to stay competitive, Hot 97 HAS to play a certain list of songs. 98.7 Kiss went out of business trying to play stuff they like as have many other stations like 89.9 (Stretch & Bobbito Show from the 90's). Yall wanna hear "real hip hop" etc. listen to Pandora or other streaming radio stations around the world. That'll drive more ears away from Hot 97 and force them to change their playlist.

Until then, especially on a site that ironically ups/stickies threads from Migos, YG, Yo Gotti, Rick Ross, etc. stop bytchin.

Ironically, this site is a reflection of these radio station playlists....an Eminem thread gets 100 views, Elzhi gets like 20.

Its true...I made a thread about Joey Bada$$ and Earl Sweatshirt and got zero replies...I can make a thread about Drake's eyebrows being too thick and go platinum in 45 minutes..If radio programing is a reflection of this forum then people only care about the superstars in hip hop and it makes sense to capitalize off of it..

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

edit: nevermind

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

I'm kind of confused, if it's all about payola, how come the "real hip hop" artists from NY can't get their label to pay the same way others do?

I'm not saying it's not payola going on but most these nikkaz complaining are signed to record labels

And whoever said World Star only charge a stack either got old info or World Star has changed tremendously over the past 3 months or so

I hit them up asking how to get my music on their front page

I didnt even bring up payola, simply asked how does an artist go about getting on the front page

And they replied with some automated email saying it was like 3-4 stacks to get a vid on their front page for a day

i think you asked all the wrong questions to WSHH.. you asked how to get it on the FRONT PAGE.. instead of asking how to just get it on the site... and they are allowed to take money.. they aren't governed by FCC laws, being that they are a website.. any website can.. others just hide it to make it seem like they are more reputable and all their co-signs are natural

it's $500, I still have the emails...

$500 will get you a "user/label/whatever submitted" video.. just thrown in at the bottom of the day.. nothing more

the 3-4k is for the MAIN videos that always stay on top.

the BIG BIG main video that stays up top is like 5-7k

they even charge for the WSHH Honeys joints or more if you have an actual ad instead of a music video





but no, a lot of stations aren't taking payola in major markets.. the labels have been sued, twice... and lost. so what people do now is what talib said.. pay an independent "promoter" who basically is your money launderer.. he takes your money and flips it to all these people. and like it was said, he never explains how he does this.. like a middle man dealer wouldn't tell you about who his main supplier is.





nikkas forget this........

A different form of payola has been used by the record industry through the loophole of being able to pay a third party or independent record promoters ("indies"; not to be confused with independent record labels), who will then go and "promote" those songs to radio stations. Offering the radio stations "promotion payments," the independents get the songs that their clients, record companies, want on the playlists of radio stations around the country.

This newer type of payola was an attempt to sidestep FCC regulations. Since the independent intermediaries were the ones actually paying the stations, it was thought that their inducements did not fall under the "payola" rules, so a radio station need not report them as paid promotions.

Former New York State Attorney General Eliot Spitzer prosecuted payola-related crimes in his jurisdiction. His office settled out of court with Sony BMG Music Entertainment in July 2005, Warner Music Group in November 2005 and Universal Music Group in May 2006. The three conglomerates agreed to pay $10 million, $5 million, and $12 million respectively to New York State non-profit organizations that will fund music education and appreciation programs. EMI remains under investigation.[9][10]

Concern about contemporary forms of payola prompted an investigation during which the FCC established firmly that the "loophole" was still a violation of the law. In 2007, four companies (CBS Radio, Citadel, Clear Channel, and Entercom) settled on paying $12.5 million in fines and accepting tougher restrictions than the legal requirements for three years, although no company admitted any wrongdoing.[11] Because of the increased legal scrutiny, some larger radio companies (including industry giant Clear Channel) now flatly refuse to have any contact with independent promoters.