How did Times Square get 'gentrified,' 'cleaned up?'

[Amare's Right Hook]

Thank god I went when it was still grimey

 

[UberEatsDriver]

Ppl complain about the city losing its identity. But if you listened to Biggie, the old NY sounded like a nightmare. Ppl complain about gentrified cities losing their “soul” as if high homicide rates high drug addiction and general societal decay wasn’t part of that “soul” and “gritty” era.

Facts the old nyc was what Chicago is right now. I’ll tell you what the immigrants who had to work through all of this shyt hate the old NyC and never want it back.


The only people who want that nyc back I imagine were probably young people/kids back then.


No older working person with a family wanted to live there back then

 

[Piff Perkins]

Watch Taxi Driver and then watch a more modern film set in New York. They got rid of all the porn shops, all the sleazy places. Then that real estate went to reputable businesses/restaurants. Massive clean up jobs on subways to go from looking like war zones to decent public service areas.

And they just started arresting+harassing black and Hispanic men to get them out of Times Square and other areas. Broken Windows and other shyt were blatantly racist policies, and if you fear you’re gonna be arrested or harassed for BS your behavior will change.

Hip hop wise they also closed or altered clubs and venues where rap was prominent. This resonates to this day and is why NY rap was dead for so long. Without places like the Tunnel to gauge what people wanted to hear, the end result was a stagnation of music while the south took over. Remember there are no club restrictions in the south, and 90% of the music they emit is made with strip clubs in mind.

 

[Ghostface Trillah]

Disney put the Broadway show of Lion King there and forced the city to push all the XXX adult theaters out.

It was a pretty big deal at the time because those theaters were normal legal tax paying businesses that had been in times square for decades and the city pushed them all out because Disney came to town and flashed some money.

 

[jaguar paw]

AIDS

 

[Biscayne]

Yup, pretty much, n Bloomberg kept it going...let's not forget stop n frisk

Pretty much, and Bloomberg kept it rollin,

You’re saying stop and frisk worked?

Watch Taxi Driver and then watch a more modern film set in New York. They got rid of all the porn shops, all the sleazy places. Then that real estate went to reputable businesses/restaurants. Massive clean up jobs on subways to go from looking like war zones to decent public service areas.

And they just started arresting+harassing black and Hispanic men to get them out of Times Square and other areas. Broken Windows and other shyt were blatantly racist policies, and if you fear you’re gonna be arrested or harassed for BS your behavior will change.

Hip hop wise they also closed or altered clubs and venues where rap was prominent. This resonates to this day and is why NY rap was dead for so long. Without places like the Tunnel to gauge what people wanted to hear, the end result was a stagnation of music while the south took over. Remember there are no club restrictions in the south, and 90% of the music they emit is made with strip clubs in mind.

Your behavior will change.

So, broken windows and other policies worked?

 

[Wildhundreds]

Facts the old nyc was what Chicago is right now. I’ll tell you what the immigrants who had to work through all of this shyt hate the old NyC and never want it back.


The only people who want that nyc back I imagine were probably young people/kids back then.


No older working person with a family wanted to live there back then

You're thinking about the outskirts of downtown Chicago.. What mayor Daley did to downtown Chicago compared to his father in the 60s was night and day.. He too got rid of the h0es and pimps and the gangs and made it more tourist friendly..

 

[UberEatsDriver]

You're thinking about the outskirts of downtown Chicago.. What mayor Daley did to downtown Chicago compared to his father in the 60s was night and day.. He too got rid of the h0es and pimps and the gangs and made it more tourist friendly..

Yes the outskirts of outside of downtown. Then again in NyC even midtown Manhattan was dangerous. You could leave your finance job and get mugged and murdered in the subway next to it.


Areas that are rich and very gay now that were vicious back then

Chelsea
East village


Chelsea now has penthouses that go for like 30 million dollars

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

We got stuck with a mayor named Giuliani...

Close thread... 200% facts

 

[UberEatsDriver]

You’re saying stop and frisk worked?

Your behavior will change.

So, broken windows and other policies worked?

I went to school at John Jay and in that school a well respected criminal justice school across the world we were taught guilliani and his policies were overrated.


Also the Dinkins who was a black mayor actually started the process of NyC becoming bettter. It was unnoticeable because his progress was slower than guilliani and we were still in the crack epedemic when he left.



typical blame the black guy so the white guy holds no accountability. Dinkins did a lot for the city

 

[SNYC]

Let me take a seat

 

[bnew]

I could ask Google but let's see what the coli's finest historians got to say.

theres a potential NEG gif @ 9:45

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

Dang that cac at 9:42 got super slumped

And ran his pockets

 

[Biscayne]

You're thinking about the outskirts of downtown Chicago.. What mayor Daley did to downtown Chicago compared to his father in the 60s was night and day.. He too got rid of the h0es and pimps and the gangs and made it more tourist friendly..

Dang, what neighborhoods were that close to downtown Chicago that were viscous? I know the Cabrini Greens weren’t too far from downtown off of state street.

Edit-Robert Taylor was off state street, not too far south of downtown. As were the Ickes.

 

[banner34]

We got stuck with a mayor named Giuliani...

He did clean up the city though