Already mentioned that Boston has gun violence like any major city. Focus on per capita and get back to me.
Majority of the victims are black.
How can you say Boston is better ?
"how do we get blk men to stop killing bw, children and each other?"
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Majority of the victims are black.
How can you say Boston is better ?
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Because it is? The number of victims, per capita, is small. That the majority are black isn’t really relevant to this thread, is it? Unlike cities like Memphis or New Orleans or Chicago, Boston is safe for black people.
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I hate to break it to you, but this isn't proving the point you think it is... Just the opposite actually.
We are overrepresentative in murder and and manslaughter for our population size. We shouldn't be highest in that category. Our numbers should be closer to what you see with aggravated assault and theft relative to Whites.
This data is a good rebuttal to any claim that black people are responsible for majority of crime against other groups however.
It's another "blame all black men instead of the specific black men that are actually committing the crimes and then act surprised that the black men that are not part of the problem become confused and annoyed and tune the fukk out of the community when we're all skipping over the upbringing of the black men in question" episode.
Also, it is a dangerous thing to utilize statistics without nuance. We have seen stats that imply that white women do a better job raising black kids, black boys especially, better than black women. Does that mean that black women are shytty mothers by themselves? The very stat you raised ignores the fact that the daughters raised by black women alone do worse across the board than other races of women raising black girls. Does this again imply black women are shytty mothers in those regards as well? Black mothers are shytty mothers compared to all other races, like white women, and thus, should be heavily regulated in regards to how they raise their kids? We can bring back a crime bill but while at it, let's bring back laws that punish the mother of the assailant, maybe bring back laws that allows for black women's tubes to be tied like they had in the US for the longest time (I recall it was only repealed in 1979 - yes that recently, relatively speaking). And let's do all this without utilizing the understanding of stats and certain aspects of the black community that we claim we have (or at least should have). That will surely fix things, right? No? I'm missing something? What's missing? Nuance. Without it, you have a disaster in the works. My point is: there is nuance to these discussions. Apply it as you would want it applied to your group since the consequences will invariably and inevitably come back to bite you in the ass if you don't. Unless you don't see yourself as part of the group as a whole at which point then, I understand.
Are you implying that there is something inherently wrong with black men only in general? That is the only thing your statement implies. You might as well talk about race realism next. I can't help but feel as if that is where these discussions want to go but the people pushing the "blame black men" line for the umpteenth time are too scared to go down. It's the only thing I can assume they want since actually blaming black men like we have been doing for decades, across all platforms, from even open public officials to celebs have been doing, and yet none of it has worked. Maybe it's time to try something new. Then again, if your intent is to push an idea rather than fix a problem, then it's understandable.
Also, it is a dangerous thing to utilize statistics without nuance. We have seen stats that imply that white women do a better job raising black kids, black boys especially, better than black women. Does that mean that black women are shytty mothers by themselves? The very stat you raised ignores the fact that the daughters raised by black women alone do worse across the board than other races of women raising black girls. Does this again imply black women are shytty mothers in those regards as well? Black mothers are shytty mothers compared to all other races, like white women, and thus, should be heavily regulated in regards to how they raise their kids? We can bring back a crime bill but while at it, let's bring back laws that punish the mother of the assailant, maybe bring back laws that allows for black women's tubes to be tied like they had in the US for the longest time (I recall it was only repealed in 1979 - yes that recently, relatively speaking). And let's do all this without utilizing the understanding of stats and certain aspects of the black community that we claim we have (or at least should have). That will surely fix things, right? No? I'm missing something? What's missing? Nuance. Without it, you have a disaster in the works. My point is: there is nuance to these discussions. Apply it as you would want it applied to your group since the consequences will invariably and inevitably come back to bite you in the ass if you don't. Unless you don't see yourself as part of the group as a whole at which point then, I understand.
All those opportunities and safety nets and it looks like the median black family in Boston is only worth $8 That was no typo: The median net worth of black Bostonians really is $8 - The Boston Globe
You're saying the median black family is worth less in those other cities
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Simple.
1.) being raised better
2.) being accountable and knowing how to make proper choices (look at point 1)
3.) making better choices
4.) too many black men are followers too.
1.) being raised better
2.) being accountable and knowing how to make proper choices (look at point 1)
3.) making better choices
4.) too many black men are followers too.
So you think if Haitians follow those 4 steps they can turn that country around and make it a first world joint that black people en masse would want to immigrate to
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The poster I was replying to was literally was trying to blame black women! No I’m not implying anything. I’m saying that men need to take responsibility for what they do. I don’t know what the hell you’re talking about because I didn’t mention any stats.It's another "blame all black men instead of the specific black men that are actually committing the crimes and then act surprised that the black men that are not part of the problem become confused and annoyed and tune the fukk out of the community when we're all skipping over the upbringing of the black men in question" episode.
Are you implying that there is something inherently wrong with black men only in general? That is the only thing your statement implies. You might as well talk about race realism next. I can't help but feel as if that is where these discussions want to go but the people pushing the "blame black men" line for the umpteenth time are too scared to go down. It's the only thing I can assume they want since actually blaming black men like we have been doing for decades, across all platforms, from even open public officials to celebs have been doing, and yet none of it has worked. Maybe it's time to try something new. Then again, if your intent is to push an idea rather than fix a problem, then it's understandable.
Also, it is a dangerous thing to utilize statistics without nuance. We have seen stats that imply that white women do a better job raising black kids, black boys especially, better than black women. Does that mean that black women are shytty mothers by themselves? The very stat you raised ignores the fact that the daughters raised by black women alone do worse across the board than other races of women raising black girls. Does this again imply black women are shytty mothers in those regards as well? Black mothers are shytty mothers compared to all other races, like white women, and thus, should be heavily regulated in regards to how they raise their kids? We can bring back a crime bill but while at it, let's bring back laws that punish the mother of the assailant, maybe bring back laws that allows for black women's tubes to be tied like they had in the US for the longest time (I recall it was only repealed in 1979 - yes that recently, relatively speaking). And let's do all this without utilizing the understanding of stats and certain aspects of the black community that we claim we have (or at least should have). That will surely fix things, right? No? I'm missing something? What's missing? Nuance. Without it, you have a disaster in the works. My point is: there is nuance to these discussions. Apply it as you would want it applied to your group since the consequences will invariably and inevitably come back to bite you in the ass if you don't. Unless you don't see yourself as part of the group as a whole at which point then, I understand.
So black women hold zero accountability in all of this?
Key 3 words he said
young black men
I totally agree.. please save all that well white people this white people that bullshyt
Our community is fukked by these young black men, and the problem is they generation X mama who was running around back in the 90s and early 2000s saying they don’t need a man to raised their child and these nikkas dope dealing or I’m a player daddies who hate the word responsibility
young black men
I totally agree.. please save all that well white people this white people that bullshyt
Our community is fukked by these young black men, and the problem is they generation X mama who was running around back in the 90s and early 2000s saying they don’t need a man to raised their child and these nikkas dope dealing or I’m a player daddies who hate the word responsibility
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Thats not the argument. I said why aren’t women that grow up in those same single parent households as the boys doing the same thing? Then he tried to say I’m implying that there’s something inherently wrong with black men for asking that question. Like wtf.
And why aren’t the dads blamed for it also. I thought fathers were better at discipline.
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It was a simple yes or no question. Do you believe black women hold zero accountability in all of this?
Hazel Brown
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Everyone has a part to blame. Including the fathers. And including the idiots doing the killing in the first place.
No, he was saying that if black men have a part in the blame, black women do as well. These men that are to blame do not exist in a vacuum. They were brought up that way or they were born that way. Those are the only options. Where did these black men that are to blame come from? If the issue is entirely on black men, and we are to accept this as a premise, then the issue of looking at households where black men are the sole and single parent should be examined to see how much crime their sons (and daughters) produce and compare to other households, in total and per capita. This is where the discussion will inevitably lead.
In any case, his point was more towards the issue of nuclear families being necessary overall.
Edit: I will also add that if we claim that all this is due to black men being absent from the home and upbringing of these men, I can see that but the issue becomes where did those men learn such behavior? Where did these men come from? In business and medicine, we have a concept called a root cause analysis. In business especially, the 5 Whys, is done to learn the cause of a problem. The great shame is that this is never done with stats and history in mind regarding such issues due to it being too much for people or people wanting to simplify a very complex issue. This is a complex issue born from a racist system. While we can come up with solutions that take such pitfalls into account, you run into a problem simply blaming black men and claiming they need to take accountability when they have been doing such for decades. We literally had a Million Man March born out of this idea, we have a whole subculture born out of and devoted to this idea. It's time we actually looked for solutions instead of settling for hackneyed, half-baked half thought out talking points.
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