How do we help or deal with all the disgruntled young men in the country?

[Capitol]

the help is not coming because the help needs help..........*

I was talking with a women about how a lot of people that would even be willing to help and contribute are going through a period of learning and growing through their own trauma but she was adamant that people are people left behind while all that happens. Idk, how are dysfunctional people supposed to help structure other people's lives for the better

 

[010101]

I was talking with a women about how a lot of people that would even be willing to help and contribute are going through a period of learning and growing through their own trauma but she was adamant that people are people left behind while all that happens. Idk, how are dysfunctional people supposed to help structure other people's lives for the better

it's a paradoxical situation

people who can carry others carry themselves & those that can carry themselves congregate together

..........

*

 

[Piff Perkins]

I'm not sure there's a solution because the solutions available right now are being deliberately ignored by men. We're told men would rather work with their hands than go to college yet there is a massive backlog of unfilled jobs in trades because (predominantly white) men aren't getting the most basic certs to qualify for them. We're told men require challenges yet men largely shy away from competing with women academically, to the point we're largely not even going to college anymore. The general impression I get is that a lot of men are emotionally and mentally tuned out, are no longer coddled by society and have pivoted to receiving their coddling from weird, right wing media. I don't even mean "right wing" in a solely political way. Weird hyper masculine shyt that is most effective on dudes who never had an active father in their life.

Do I think our education system is fukked and there are women in academic settings who deliberately attempt to snuff out boys/men? Yes. But I can't possibly say that's the sole reason WHITE men are failing at levels we've never seen before in this country. I think social media plays a massive role in this and it's killing kids intellectually. And the attention/clout dynamics are not balanced. We know how girls/women attain attention online. How do men attain it these days? By being right wing shytlords. You are rewarded for telling women to get in the kitchen. And then these guys wonder why they can't hold a job or get a girlfriend, when so much of their time is spent consuming drivel.

The ironic thing is that ALL of this makes for a perfect setting for fascism and yet these same men won't join the military. If this was all a conspiracy to bolster our military it has failed. These guys aren't even motivated by the $$$ benefits, they simply don't care.

 

[The Fade]

I personally think they should start a combat sports league with teams like they have in Eastern Europe and all boys of middle school age should be sent to combat gyms to learn how to defend themselves and discipline.

When you zoom out as whole the whole point of sports and combat sports is to stop wars and conflict. If you watch anime look at the what the metaphor of the Three Kings Saga tournament is. It channels all that restless behavior from the player all the way down to the watcher and lets everyone be a apart of process greater than themselves. Yusuke esstentially created a new participatory culture on the eve of a total breakdown of society. Even as a watcher/enjoyer when your team wins the dopamine and engagement is undeniable. Without it we would back in the days where every ethnic group is trying to kill each other out in the open.

 

[Dave24]

I'm not sure there's a solution because the solutions available right now are being deliberately ignored by men. We're told men would rather work with their hands than go to college yet there is a massive backlog of unfilled jobs in trades because (predominantly white) men aren't getting the most basic certs to qualify for them. We're told men require challenges yet men largely shy away from competing with women academically, to the point we're largely not even going to college anymore. The general impression I get is that a lot of men are emotionally and mentally tuned out, are no longer coddled by society and have pivoted to receiving their coddling from weird, right wing media. I don't even mean "right wing" in a solely political way. Weird hyper masculine shyt that is most effective on dudes who never had an active father in their life.

Do I think our education system is fukked and there are women in academic settings who deliberately attempt to snuff out boys/men? Yes. But I can't possibly say that's the sole reason WHITE men are failing at levels we've never seen before in this country. I think social media plays a massive role in this and it's killing kids intellectually. And the attention/clout dynamics are not balanced. We know how girls/women attain attention online. How do men attain it these days? By being right wing shytlords. You are rewarded for telling women to get in the kitchen. And then these guys wonder why they can't hold a job or get a girlfriend, when so much of their time is spent consuming drivel.

The ironic thing is that ALL of this makes for a perfect setting for fascism and yet these same men won't join the military. If this was all a conspiracy to bolster our military it has failed. These guys aren't even motivated by the $$$ benefits, they simply don't care.

good points! @africngiant what do you think in your opinion?

 

[OperationNumbNutts]

Realistically. Find a way how capitalism can benefit from male consumerism. As disappointing as it sounds, that is the way this country operates.

 

[Dave24]

When you zoom out as whole the whole point of sports and combat sports is to stop wars and conflict. If you watch anime look at the what the metaphor of the Three Kings Saga tournament is. It channels all that restless behavior from the player all the way down to the watcher and lets everyone be a apart of process greater than themselves. Yusuke esstentially created a new participatory culture on the eve of a total breakdown of society. Even as a watcher/enjoyer when your team wins the dopamine and engagement is undeniable. Without it we would back in the days where every ethnic group is trying to kill each other out in the open.

The dopamine from watching porn is undeniable. Sports/combat sports doesn't give off as much dopamine as watching and fapping to porn.

 

[Jonah]

When you zoom out as whole the whole point of sports and combat sports is to stop wars and conflict. If you watch anime look at the what the metaphor of the Three Kings Saga tournament is. It channels all that restless behavior from the player all the way down to the watcher and lets everyone be a apart of process greater than themselves. Yusuke esstentially created a new participatory culture on the eve of a total breakdown of society. Even as a watcher/enjoyer when your team wins the dopamine and engagement is undeniable. Without it we would back in the days where every ethnic group is trying to kill each other out in the open.

Gundam Fight in G gundam was basically the same thing

The series is set in the "Future Century", where space colonies representing countries have agreed to hold an organized fighting tournament known as the "Gundam Fight" every four years to settle their political differences in place of war. Each colony sends a representative fighter piloting a giant, humanoid mecha called a Gundam to battle on Earth until only one is left, and the winning nation earns the right to govern over all the colonies until the next tournament.

 

[Dave24]

@Jonah what about Dragonball and Dragonball Z, espeically the world tournaments in DragonBall?

 

[africngiant]

good points! @africngiant what do you think in your opinion?

im not sure breh ppl put way too much pressure on men to figure things out right away.

as long as we stay busy & healthy with good habits and tune out the noise, i think you can live a fulfilling life regardless of economic class.

a key contributing factor to male happiness is community i think. and it’s the hardest feeling to overcome feeling constantly admonished by peers (mainly women and fam members) as a man for failing to meet their long list of patriarchal expectations. it’s even worse with social media now

that’s why u gotta find some real ones and stick by them from a mental standpoint. be your brothers keeper

if i didnt have things like thecoli muay thai black mentors in college etc. i wouldnt be mentally sane. my threads used to be crazy until i found my footing and got in my bag but it takes time, block out all the uneccessary noise though it’s not productive to pay attention to. many men give up bc of the immense social pressure and bleak outlook of society.

it also helps to stack supplements to deal with the everyday pressures as a healthy alternative to drugs. it helped further aid me in not gaf about things a lot more.